The ASU coaching search and potential candidates to discuss

[ASUMountaineer]

I have had enough of Charlie Cobb ... He let Buzz hold him hostage 5 years ago ... He made the worst hire in the history of college basketball 4 years ago ... He fired a living legend who did nothing but win and represent Appalachian with class and dignity last year ... and now he can't close the deal on another potential coach ... I believe its time that we got new leadership at the top ... our 3 major sports are all losers this year and in my opinion Cobb is in charge and he cannot handle the job ... Everything he has including his office was built by Coach Moore and the football team ... I am sick and tired of having to take up for App athletics when everyone wants to know what kind of idiot is running the sports program when they speak about Coach Moore firing and Capel hiring ... It's time that we got someone who has a clue into the leadership position .... Cobb needs to go !!!!

Who is that dude? Hopefully your post is a parody.

That's App State legend Dexter Coakley. What kind of fan are you?

Never saw him jiving before. As to being a fan, I've probably been a fan of ASU much longer than you.

W O W

[bcoach]

wow! I never knew that Dexter was a groundskeeper at ND

[PhillyApp1]

I have had enough of Charlie Cobb ... He let Buzz hold him hostage 5 years ago ... He made the worst hire in the history of college basketball 4 years ago ... He fired a living legend who did nothing but win and represent Appalachian with class and dignity last year ... and now he can't close the deal on another potential coach ... I believe its time that we got new leadership at the top ... our 3 major sports are all losers this year and in my opinion Cobb is in charge and he cannot handle the job ... Everything he has including his office was built by Coach Moore and the football team ... I am sick and tired of having to take up for App athletics when everyone wants to know what kind of idiot is running the sports program when they speak about Coach Moore firing and Capel hiring ... It's time that we got someone who has a clue into the leadership position .... Cobb needs to go !!!!

[PhillyApp1]

I have had enough of Charlie Cobb ... He let Buzz hold him hostage 5 years ago ... He made the worst hire in the history of college basketball 4 years ago ... He fired a living legend who did nothing but win and represent Appalachian with class and dignity last year ... and now he can't close the deal on another potential coach ... I believe its time that we got new leadership at the top ... our 3 major sports are all losers this year and in my opinion Cobb is in charge and he cannot handle the job ... Everything he has including his office was built by Coach Moore and the football team ... I am sick and tired of having to take up for App athletics when everyone wants to know what kind of idiot is running the sports program when they speak about Coach Moore firing and Capel hiring ... It's time that we got someone who has a clue into the leadership position .... Cobb needs to go !!!!

Your post leaves me an impression of a teenagers mentality. Grow up. Stop measuring your self worth by App sports. All the things you complain about we're done with the support of Chancellor Peacock and the BOT. App is growing and changing, so stop crying.

[spong]

There is a new article out talking about a potential coach.

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014-col ... ainst-yale

The only thing here that's really new to the message board is that Duggar Baucom was in the discussion for the Furman job last year before they went with an old assistant.

[ASUPATCH]

Hang with me on this one guys.

Jeff Bzdelik

I know his overall record is horrible. But look at the teams he took over. He improved horrible teams to just average squads in 3 and 4 years respectively at Colorado and Wake. Which means he never got to coach a single senior he recruited. It is quite possible if he had a year or two more at either school with his recruits they could have been winners.

This years roster has 1 Junior and 1 senior

0 Codi Miller-McIntyre Guard 6-3 195 SO Concord, N.C. Hargrave Military Academy
1 Madison Jones Guard 6-1 160 SO Raleigh, N.C. Ravenscroft School
2 Devin Thomas Forward 6-9 245 SO Harrisburg, Pa. Central Dauphin HS
4 Daniel Green Forward 6-10 230 RS SO Colleyville, Texas Grapevine HS
11 Greg McClinton Forward 6-7 185 FR Winston-Salem, N.C. Hargrave Military Academy
13 Coron Williams Guard 6-1 175 GS Midlothian, Va. Robert Morris University
20 Miles Overton Guard 6-4 210 FR Philadephia, Pa. St. Joseph's Prep
30 Travis McKie Forward 6-7 220 SR Richmond, Va. John Marshall HS
31 Andre Washington Center 7-0 240 SO Roanoke, Va. Hargrave Military Academy
33 Aaron Rountree III Forward 6-8 195 SO Wilson, N.C. Greenfield School
34 Tyler Cavanaugh Forward 6-9 230 SO Dewitt, N.Y. Jamesville-Dewitt HS
35 Stephen Prendergast Guard 6-1 175 SO Mahwah, N.J. Don Bosco Prep
41 Duke Antonelli Guard 6-3 200 SO Mechanicsburg, Pa. Red Land HS
43 Trent VanHorn Guard 6-3 200 FR Fort Wayne, Ind. Canterbury School
45 Arnaud William Adala Moto Forward 6-6 225 SO Yaounde, Cameroon Episcopal (Va.) HS
51 Grant O'Brien Forward 6-7 195 SO North Andover, Mass. The Governor's Academy
52 Doug Niedrich Forward 6-6 200 JR Kildeer, Ill. Adlai E. Stevenson HS

[ASUPATCH]

There is a new article out talking about a potential coach.

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014-col ... ainst-yale

The only thing here that's really new to the message board is that Duggar Baucom was in the discussion for the Furman job last year before they went with an old assistant.

Not really all that sold on Dugger like a bunch of people are. 9 seasons as a d1 coach all at VMI and he has 5 losing season. One of which as recently as 2012-2013. I guess he is geographically close hence why people know of him. If he put up that kind of record at some low level D1 school out west know one would even mention his name.

[firemoose]

I'm not commenting on the search but I saw this and thought some might be interested.

Jeff Gravley ‏@jgravleyWRAL
Interviews this week for #NCCU's LeVelle Moton. #Marshall and #FloridaAtlantic. App State contacted his agent but nothing further.

[asu66]

There is a new article out talking about a potential coach.

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014-col ... ainst-yale

The only thing here that's really new to the message board is that Duggar Baucom was in the discussion for the Furman job last year before they went with an old assistant.

Not really all that sold on Dugger like a bunch of people are. 9 seasons as a d1 coach all at VMI and he has 5 losing season. One of which as recently as 2012-2013. I guess he is geographically close hence why people know of him. If he put up that kind of record at some low level D1 school out west know one would even mention his name.

Baucom didn't help his cause last night. His kids didn't play well enough to win a winnable home game. I hesitate to say they choked, but... Those who know more about that team than I do say they missed shots they normally hit on in their lair! The Runnin' Roos--didn't run like I was expecting.

[asu66]

I'm not commenting on the search but I saw this and thought some might be interested.

Jeff Gravley ‏@jgravleyWRAL
Interviews this week for #NCCU's LeVelle Moton. #Marshall and #FloridaAtlantic. App State contacted his agent but nothing further.

The Moose never disappoints.

From CBSsports.com...

By Jeff Borzello | College Basketball Writer

Latest in hoops: NCAA Tournament | Updated News | Coaching Changes

North Carolina Central head coach LeVelle Moton has become a target for Florida Atlantic and Marshall, sources told CBSSports.com.

Moton is set to interview with FAU on Wednesday afternoon and then Marshall on Saturday.

He has been at NC Central for five seasons, leading the Eagles to the NCAA Tournament this season. They have increased their win total every season under Moton, as he helped transition them from Division I independent into the MEAC.

Moton is 67-30 since the Eagles joined the MEAC three seasons ago.

[dubs21]

Hang with me on this one guys.

Jeff Bzdelik

I know his overall record is horrible. But look at the teams he took over. He improved horrible teams to just average squads in 3 and 4 years respectively at Colorado and Wake. Which means he never got to coach a single senior he recruited. It is quite possible if he had a year or two more at either school with his recruits they could have been winners.

This years roster has 1 Junior and 1 senior

0 Codi Miller-McIntyre Guard 6-3 195 SO Concord, N.C. Hargrave Military Academy
1 Madison Jones Guard 6-1 160 SO Raleigh, N.C. Ravenscroft School
2 Devin Thomas Forward 6-9 245 SO Harrisburg, Pa. Central Dauphin HS
4 Daniel Green Forward 6-10 230 RS SO Colleyville, Texas Grapevine HS
11 Greg McClinton Forward 6-7 185 FR Winston-Salem, N.C. Hargrave Military Academy
13 Coron Williams Guard 6-1 175 GS Midlothian, Va. Robert Morris University
20 Miles Overton Guard 6-4 210 FR Philadephia, Pa. St. Joseph's Prep
30 Travis McKie Forward 6-7 220 SR Richmond, Va. John Marshall HS
31 Andre Washington Center 7-0 240 SO Roanoke, Va. Hargrave Military Academy
33 Aaron Rountree III Forward 6-8 195 SO Wilson, N.C. Greenfield School
34 Tyler Cavanaugh Forward 6-9 230 SO Dewitt, N.Y. Jamesville-Dewitt HS
35 Stephen Prendergast Guard 6-1 175 SO Mahwah, N.J. Don Bosco Prep
41 Duke Antonelli Guard 6-3 200 SO Mechanicsburg, Pa. Red Land HS
43 Trent VanHorn Guard 6-3 200 FR Fort Wayne, Ind. Canterbury School
45 Arnaud William Adala Moto Forward 6-6 225 SO Yaounde, Cameroon Episcopal (Va.) HS
51 Grant O'Brien Forward 6-7 195 SO North Andover, Mass. The Governor's Academy
52 Doug Niedrich Forward 6-6 200 JR Kildeer, Ill. Adlai E. Stevenson HS

As a lifelong diehard Wake fan, I will say, stay away. Do not want.

[EastHallApp]

So just for kicks, I thought I might put together a little profile with pros and cons for some of the candidates who have been mentioned. I will try to keep these mostly factual, but my subjective views may creep in now and again.

Note: I am not including any D2 candidates. This is not because I dislike or wouldn't support any of them, or because App may not ultimately hire someone from that level. I just couldn't add anything to those beyond what's in their official bios, as I don't follow D2 at all.

[EastHallApp]

Duggar Baucom
VMI HC
Previously: HC at Tusculum, Asst. at WCU and several other small schools, HC in high school
Age: 53
Career record: 140-140 (9 years)
Current year: 22-13
http://www.vmikeydets.com/ViewArticle.d ... EASON=2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duggar_Baucom

Pros:
- Very high-tempo system should appeal to recruits and fans, and has brought media attention to VMI.
- Could also be difficult for opponents to adjust to, as few teams play at such a pace.
- Has performed above modern historical norms at VMI.
- Offense is not only fast, but proficient – led conference in offensive efficiency this season by a wide margin.

Cons:
- Overall record only .500. Has not won consistently (two 20-win seasons in nine years), and has never made NCAA Tournament.
- Recruiting experience? Background would seem to offer little experience in a competitive recruiting environment.
- Defense, while not bad by Big South standards, lags well behind offense.

[EastHallApp]

Darrin Horn
Former HC at South Carolina and Western Kentucky
Previously: Asst. at Marquette, WKU and Morehead St.
Age: 41
Career record: 171-112 (9 years)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrin_Horn

Pros:
- Excellent record at WKU – 111-48, won 22 or more games in four of five seasons.
- 2008 Sweet 16 appearance.
- Has used up-tempo, full-court press style (though reportedly not consistently).
- Experienced coach, yet still young by coaching standards.
- Recruited well at WKU.
- Successful background in the Sun Belt – career 57-21 record in SBC games.

Cons:
- Rumored questions about personality. Seen by some as arrogant and hard to work with.
- Despite taking over a WKU program coming off three straight NCAAT appearances, did not make the tournament until his fifth season.
- Teams’ defense at WKU was relatively poor until final season.
- Rumored to have turned off some HS coaches.
- No ties to Boone or NC – might look to jump at first chance. Esp. since he was rumored not to have made many ties with the community while at South Carolina – might be the type to not put down any roots.

[EastHallApp]

Ritchie McKay
Virginia Assistant Coach
Previously: HC at Portland State, Colorado State, Oregon State, New Mexico and Liberty. Asst. at several schools
Age: 49 (later this month)
Career record: 204-186 (13 years)
http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m- ... 99032.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritchie_McKay

Pros:
- Current team had a breakthrough year in 2014, winning the ACC regular season and tournament titles and earning an NCAA 1 seed.
- Has been a head coach at virtually every level of D1 basketball – from low-major (Big Sky, Big South) to mid-major (WAC, Mountain West) to high major (Pac 10).

Cons:
- So-so record as a head coach – only two 20-win seasons and no conference titles in 13 years. Only one second-place finish.
- 23-win season at Liberty largely due to presence of Seth Curry.
- Other than New Mexico, has left every HC job he’s held after two years.
- Motivation: He left Liberty (as HC) voluntarily to take an AC job at UVa, speaking publicly of looking forward to having less pressure on him. Does he have the drive to rebuild a program?

[EastHallApp]

Matt McMahon
Murray State Assistant Coach
Previously: Assistant at App State (10 years) and UNCW, GA at Tennessee
Age: 36 (?)
Career record: n/a
http://goracers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=511&path=mbball

Pros:
- Has been ranked among top mid-major assistants in the nation by CollegeInsider.com and in a Fox Sports poll of other coaches.
- Considered to be a strong recruiter.
- Teams at Murray State have all won at least 21 games, including 31-2 in 2012.
- App State alum, spent 14 years as a player and assistant coach. Would be closely familiar with the program’s challenges and strengths, as well as the university and community, on Day 1.
- If successful, might be more selective than others in seeking a bigger job.

Cons:
- No head coaching experience.
- Ties to previous App coaches could be seen as a negative by those who want a clean break and would rather start from scratch.

[EastHallApp]

Mike Young
Wofford Head Coach
Previously: Wofford assistant (13 years)
Age: 51 (next month)
Career record: 189-185 (12 years)
Current year: 20-13
http://athletics.wofford.edu/coaches.as ... ath=mbball
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Young ... l_coach%29

Pros:
- Has won at a program that only became D1 in the late ‘90s and never had a winning season before his arrival.
- Three NCAA Tournament appearances the last five years.
- Teams have been relatively competitive in all three NCAA trips, including near-upset of Wisconsin in 2010.
- Teams excel defensively.
- Known for teams doing well academically; could be good choice to clean up APR mess.
- Has lived in Virginia and the Carolinas his entire life.

Cons:
- Plodding style + so-so offensive efficiency numbers = lots of games in the 50s.
- Recruiting? Has spent nearly his entire career at Wofford; big jump to recruiting Sun Belt-caliber talent.
- Turnaround might take a while. Young won between 9 and 16 games each of his first seven years at Wofford before breaking through in year 8. He might not get that kind of patience at App.
- Might cost more than his resume warrants due to comfort at Wofford and wife’s career considerations.

[JCline0429]

There is a new article out talking about a potential coach.

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014-col ... ainst-yale

The only thing here that's really new to the message board is that Duggar Baucom was in the discussion for the Furman job last year before they went with an old assistant.

Not really all that sold on Dugger like a bunch of people are. 9 seasons as a d1 coach all at VMI and he has 5 losing season. One of which as recently as 2012-2013. I guess he is geographically close hence why people know of him. If he put up that kind of record at some low level D1 school out west know one would even mention his name.

Just an opinion, but anyone who can post 4 out 9 winning seasons at little old VMI has done pretty much an acceptable job. Not great, but pretty acceptable. What is ex ASU coach Sparky Wood's record as football coach at VMI? Sparky was well liked at ASU and still has his followers. Just sayin.'

[asu66]

There is a new article out talking about a potential coach.

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014-col ... ainst-yale

The only thing here that's really new to the message board is that Duggar Baucom was in the discussion for the Furman job last year before they went with an old assistant.

Not really all that sold on Dugger like a bunch of people are. 9 seasons as a d1 coach all at VMI and he has 5 losing season. One of which as recently as 2012-2013. I guess he is geographically close hence why people know of him. If he put up that kind of record at some low level D1 school out west know one would even mention his name.

Just an opinion, but anyone who can post 4 out 9 winning seasons at little old VMI has done pretty much an acceptable job. Not great, but pretty acceptable. What is ex ASU coach Sparky Wood's record as football coach at VMI? Sparky was well liked at ASU and still has his followers. Just sayin.'

Hey, Sparky is now a gentlemen VA farmer. VMI football is just his hobby.

[JCline0429]

I just checked, Sparky is 15 and 52 at VMI. It just goes to show that it's not always the coach who determines the W-L record as he was certainly a good one at App.