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Unread post by asu66 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:23 am

From an Adam Smith story in the BURLNGTON TIMES-NEWS...

“At points it felt like we were playing two teams out there with App State and the officiating. That’s something that I’ve got to get straight and look at the film and turn some plays in and try to get an even-called football game.” Elon head coach Jason Swepson
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Re: Jason Swepson: Crybaby

Unread post by Appmom3186 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:31 am

That is so ridiculous!!!
Can you post the link? I would love to read the entire article.

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Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:14 am

I think there might have been room for him to complain about the "incomplete" call that would have been a TD. They wound up with a field goal instead. Other than that, I'm not sure what he's complaining about. If he doesn't like the late hit calls, they should probably just stop hitting after the play.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:12 am

I, too, am surprised as well - after so many years of lousy officiating against APP - I just didn't see it - the slide and KImbrough thing he mentions is pretty bogus - there is no slide rule in college and Kimbrough didn't lead with his helmet - of course I don't guess he can say much about the continued cheapshots Elon takes - at least the SoCon refs finally saw a couple of them -
I have a very close friend in the Elon athletics dept and he really like Swepson - he has to be a big step-up from Lembo

The thing that really surprises me about bellyaching against the refs is here is a man who at 42 just spent a week in the hospital with batteries of heart tests, etc. - he should be worshipping his chance to be back on the sideline on a beautiful football day at the best stadium in FCS, coaching in a really good football game --- yes he wants to win but the best team won and without the help of the refs ---
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Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:37 am

Yosef84 wrote:I think there might have been room for him to complain about the "incomplete" call that would have been a TD. They wound up with a field goal instead. Other than that, I'm not sure what he's complaining about. If he doesn't like the late hit calls, they should probably just stop hitting after the play.
Agreed, except the official that made the incomplete/OB reception call on the pass to end zone was in perfect position to make that call. Of course he still could have been wrong, but I am yet to see a replay angle that indicates it was a bad call.

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Unread post by fjblair » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:21 pm

Poor little Jason just can't catch a break. :lol:

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Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:18 pm

Mellette was out of bounds on that incomplete td pass.. no doubt about it..

The long bomb to (I believe) Mellette, where he went out of bounds and came back in was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while..

Either way, the birds still play dirty and they still can't beat us..
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:40 pm

AppStateCentral wrote:Mellette was out of bounds on that incomplete td pass.. no doubt about it..

The long bomb to (I believe) Mellette, where he went out of bounds and came back in was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while..

Either way, the birds still play dirty and they still can't beat us..
Are you saying Mellette was not pushed out of bounds by McCray? - since I sit on that side I couldn't see because of the Elon players on the sideline - Here is the official rule ---

However, if the receiver gets bumped out of bounds by a defender, he can re-establish his field position by getting back into the field of play as quickly as possible. He must also step in bounds with both feet before he catches the pass. The official must determine that the receiver was indeed shoved out of bounds, and that he got back into the field of play as fast as he possibly could.

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Unread post by DaphneUrquhart » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:41 pm

I found the quote from Mellette on his matchup with McCray to be quite interesting:

"I think he's the best corner in the conference and he's going against me, one of the best receivers in the conference. I knew he would bring his A-game and it turned into a back and forth slugfest. I enjoyed it."

That sounds to me like they were both giving each other all they had and knew it was going to be tough from the opening whistle. To me, that's the essence of great competition ... you bring your best; I'll bring my best; we'll fight it out and enjoy the battle and move on to the next battle once the game is over.
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Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:47 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
AppStateCentral wrote:Mellette was out of bounds on that incomplete td pass.. no doubt about it..

The long bomb to (I believe) Mellette, where he went out of bounds and came back in was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while..

Either way, the birds still play dirty and they still can't beat us..
Are you saying Mellette was not pushed out of bounds by McCray? - since I sit on that side I couldn't see because of the Elon players on the sideline - Here is the official rule ---
That's exactly what I'm saying.. the official that was right next to it thought the same thing and threw his hat down indicating he was not forced out. It was the back judge who was 1) not supposed to be looking there since mellette was out of bounds before the ball was thrown and 2) no where close to the play that overturned the ruling..
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:01 pm

AppStateCentral wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
AppStateCentral wrote:Mellette was out of bounds on that incomplete td pass.. no doubt about it..

The long bomb to (I believe) Mellette, where he went out of bounds and came back in was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while..

Either way, the birds still play dirty and they still can't beat us..
Are you saying Mellette was not pushed out of bounds by McCray? - since I sit on that side I couldn't see because of the Elon players on the sideline - Here is the official rule ---
That's exactly what I'm saying.. the official that was right next to it thought the same thing and threw his hat down indicating he was not forced out. It was the back judge who was 1) not supposed to be looking there since mellette was out of bounds before the ball was thrown and 2) no where close to the play that overturned the ruling..
OK - you have confused about what you are saying - Are you saying that you saw the entire play and McCray DID NOT push him out of bounds? - If that is what you are saying then you could be correct --- However, The dropping of the hat by the official does NOT indicate whether or not the offensive player was pushed out or not - only that he left the field of play ---
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Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:07 pm

Yes, I am saying McCray did not block him out of bounds.. mellette ran around McCray and went out of bounds on his own. Yes, McCray impeded his movement forward by standing his ground, but did not block him out.

I know the hat does not necessarily mean he was forced out.. but it does mean the official that was closest to the play and saw the player go out of bounds, should not be over ruled by a guy that was farther away and should not even be looking at the play at that point.
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Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:48 pm

asu66 wrote:From an Adam Smith story in the BURLNGTON TIMES-NEWS...

“At points it felt like we were playing two teams out there with App State and the officiating. That’s something that I’ve got to get straight and look at the film and turn some plays in and try to get an even-called football game.” Elon head coach Jason Swepson
I think this idiot Swepson cost Elon a lot of momentum and points by not going for TDs on the field goal tries, because we really didn't stop them very often, and therefore the game. He must be related to Bobby Lamb?
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Unread post by ASU-FTW » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:02 pm

asu66 wrote:“At points it felt like we were playing two teams out there with App State and the officiating. That’s something that I’ve got to get straight and look at the film and turn some plays in and try to get an even-called football game.” Elon head coach Jason Swepson
All I read from that was "Wahhh wahhh we lost to Appalachian AGAIN! Wahhh wahhhh :cry: :cry: :cry: "

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Unread post by kiddbrewer » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:09 pm

AppStateCentral wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
AppStateCentral wrote:Mellette was out of bounds on that incomplete td pass.. no doubt about it..

The long bomb to (I believe) Mellette, where he went out of bounds and came back in was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while..

Either way, the birds still play dirty and they still can't beat us..
Are you saying Mellette was not pushed out of bounds by McCray? - since I sit on that side I couldn't see because of the Elon players on the sideline - Here is the official rule ---
That's exactly what I'm saying.. the official that was right next to it thought the same thing and threw his hat down indicating he was not forced out. It was the back judge who was 1) not supposed to be looking there since mellette was out of bounds before the ball was thrown and 2) no where close to the play that overturned the ruling..
If I remember correctly, the official who threw his hat down (they do it every time a receiver steps out of bounds), also was one that signaled a touchdown, and ran back to the referee to give an explanation. If that official who threw his hat down and knew the receiver was out of bounds on his own accord, would he have signaled a touchdown? So, apparently that official knew Mellette was pushed out, signaled it (hat) and knew it was a touchdown.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:54 pm

kiddbrewer wrote:
AppStateCentral wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
AppStateCentral wrote:Mellette was out of bounds on that incomplete td pass.. no doubt about it..

The long bomb to (I believe) Mellette, where he went out of bounds and came back in was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while..

Either way, the birds still play dirty and they still can't beat us..
Are you saying Mellette was not pushed out of bounds by McCray? - since I sit on that side I couldn't see because of the Elon players on the sideline - Here is the official rule ---
That's exactly what I'm saying.. the official that was right next to it thought the same thing and threw his hat down indicating he was not forced out. It was the back judge who was 1) not supposed to be looking there since mellette was out of bounds before the ball was thrown and 2) no where close to the play that overturned the ruling..
If I remember correctly, the official who threw his hat down (they do it every time a receiver steps out of bounds), also was one that signaled a touchdown, and ran back to the referee to give an explanation. If that official who threw his hat down and knew the receiver was out of bounds on his own accord, would he have signaled a touchdown? So, apparently that official knew Mellette was pushed out, signaled it (hat) and knew it was a touchdown.
That part did happen right in front of me and you are exactly right - the official who threw his hat is the one who sprinted down the sideline and signaled TD - that is the exact moment I became concerned that it was actually going to stand ---
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Unread post by App91 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:46 pm

the most important part of that play was #10 stopped when he saw the hat go down, he did not keep playing, that is why he was burned so bad.

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Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:33 pm

kiddbrewer wrote: If I remember correctly, the official who threw his hat down (they do it every time a receiver steps out of bounds), also was one that signaled a touchdown, and ran back to the referee to give an explanation. If that official who threw his hat down and knew the receiver was out of bounds on his own accord, would he have signaled a touchdown? So, apparently that official knew Mellette was pushed out, signaled it (hat) and knew it was a touchdown.
WVAPPeer wrote: That part did happen right in front of me and you are exactly right - the official who threw his hat is the one who sprinted down the sideline and signaled TD - that is the exact moment I became concerned that it was actually going to stand ---
Well, then I stand corrected. I thought it was the back judge that called it a touchdown and over ruled what the side judge saw/called.

However, either way, I still stand that McCray did not force him out and it was a bad call. Didn't end up making a difference though..
App91 wrote:the most important part of that play was #10 stopped when he saw the hat go down, he did not keep playing, that is why he was burned so bad.
I cannot agree with you more. Although, I did not agree with the call, you have to play through the whistle regardless of what happens during the play.
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