Quick Question

[Gonzo]

So Gonzo,

Why the need to be confrontational? From all accounts, I have heard that you are a nice guy and your post generally demonstrate a general knowledge to which you speak. But why the constant need to sully the message with confrontational or antagonistic remarks? Sorry to pile on.

I've been trying to get better about that

[Nugget49]

be careful what you wish for 49er, we have had our own share of collage transfer thru the year, they all look good on paper in the middle of June, but when you actually get them on the field, you find out real quick why they transferred to a smaller program, not saying they will not workout, but I wouldn't bet they are going to take your program to the next level.

Hey, I agree with you in general. Of course hoops is the bulk of my experience but we went down the JUCO path too much once and found it is not the answer. Our football program has different challenges--age being one of them. Transfers is about the only way to get more experience on the field and balance the classes so a start-up taking them is almost inevitable. I would rather have SEC/ACC transfers that got lots of good offers but want more minutes than FCS or G5 transfers. Of course I am generalizing. Lemay and Ferguson are both Charlotte kids and there is no question that we want to be a top choice for local players so this helps build credibility with other recruits. I hope they work out for us, but you are right, we will find out on the field.

[WVAPPeer]

Yep, remember a DE from LSU that just couldn't make it at ASU....

Actually 89 you might not be right about Washington - he made some huge plays for us - his problem was continuing injuries which kept him off the field - I was watching the 07 championship game a while back and if you remember a big play early in that game was the first UD TD which was overruled, 3rd down we held them out of the endzone again and on 4th down Flacco wanted to pass - he ran all over the field trying to find some to pass to, eventually threw it long - we took over, marched 99 yards to make 14-0 --- Our guy who chased Flacco all over the field was Tim Washington ---

[moehler]

Washingtons biggest problem seemed to be his attitude. The first practice in Boone he was overheard complaining that they didn't work this hard at LSU. I don't think his heart was in it when he came to Boone, felt entitled, and when he didn't start immediately that began his problems, I agree he had his moments, that when he was motivated, he was force, but those moments were few and far between. After a year. Moore finally had enough, I believe grades were also a problem, they had a sit down and it was decided that Washington should take his talents elsewhere.

[Gonzo]

Let's face it, if we all didn't take kids who had gotten in trouble for doing something stupid you and I would have been able to make our teams.

Speak for Yosef.

That is most definitely not the case at Appalachian State.

Still waiting to hear where you got this idea.

[EastHallApp]

App does still currently have transfers from Oregon, Utah and Virginia Tech on the roster. However, I expect we'll see less of that now that we don't offer the advantage of not having to sit out a year.

[Saint3333]

App does still currently have transfers from Oregon, Utah and Virginia Tech on the roster. However, I expect we'll see less of that now that we don't offer the advantage of not having to sit out a year.

We do, but all of them left is good standing, big difference.

[WVAPPeer]

Tim Washington's stats for 2007 - some forget he played an important role probably because of all the APP greats who were on that team ---
GP --- 11
SOLO --- 15
AST --- 22
TOTAL - 37

TFL/YDS --- 10/51
SACKS/YDS --- 5.5/39

PASS BKP --- 1
QB HUR --- 5

[Nugget49]

Let's face it, if we all didn't take kids who had gotten in trouble for doing something stupid you and I would have been able to make our teams.

Speak for Yosef.

That is most definitely not the case at Appalachian State.

Still waiting to hear where you got this idea.

Yes, I was ignoring you. I would think this would be so familiar that you caught that immediately.

[Gonzo]

Let's face it, if we all didn't take kids who had gotten in trouble for doing something stupid you and I would have been able to make our teams.

Speak for Yosef.

That is most definitely not the case at Appalachian State.

Still waiting to hear where you got this idea.

Yes, I was ignoring you. I would think this would be so familiar that you caught that immediately.

I'm familiar with you making a bogus accusation and refusing to own up to it.

UNCC is apparently developing a practice of taking transfer players who other teams deem unfit. App State does not. We are not that desperate. Our program is one of integrity.

Speak for Yosef.

[Nugget49]

Let's face it, if we all didn't take kids who had gotten in trouble for doing something stupid you and I would have been able to make our teams.

Speak for Yosef.

That is most definitely not the case at Appalachian State.

Still waiting to hear where you got this idea.

Yes, I was ignoring you. I would think this would be so familiar that you caught that immediately.

I'm familiar with you making a bogus accusation and refusing to own up to it.

UNCC is apparently developing a practice of taking transfer players who other teams deem unfit. App State does not. We are not that desperate. Our program is one of integrity.

Speak for Yosef.

Damn it, you have reeled me in you clever boy. Okay, I was being reductive. I cannot provide examples of App football players that have come in with a stain on their records because I do not follow your team closely, and it would be poor manners for me to do so on your message board anyway. I also cannot provide another example where Charlotte has so maybe that invalidates my whole argument.

I was trying to make two simple points. First, student-athletes in general are often not the best examples of citizenry we would like them to be. And Yosef10 and I could have played if only these guys were not taking up all the spots. You rightly pointed out that I should speak for "mysef" and so I am in no way proposing that you could make the team under any circumstances.

Lemay may arrive at Charlotte having done something stupid, while other athletes will wait until they get on campus to get caught. Do I really need to provide examples of that? Because I can. Wouldn't it be better if you just avoided calling players "unfit", and programs "desperate", and focused on happy things?

[bcoach]

Please dear Lord let the season begin. We are deteriorating at a rapid rate and only games to talk about can save us.
Amen

[appdaze]

Please dear Lord let the season begin. We are deteriorating at a rapid rate and only games to talk about can save us.
Amen

We have a preacher who posts here you can pray with to stop the insanity of this thread and the other one.....

[hapapp]

Let's face it, if we all didn't take kids who had gotten in trouble for doing something stupid you and I would have been able to make our teams.

Speak for Yosef.

That is most definitely not the case at Appalachian State.

Still waiting to hear where you got this idea.

Yes, I was ignoring you. I would think this would be so familiar that you caught that immediately.

I'm familiar with you making a bogus accusation and refusing to own up to it.

UNCC is apparently developing a practice of taking transfer players who other teams deem unfit. App State does not. We are not that desperate. Our program is one of integrity.

Speak for Yosef.

The moment you start looking down your nose at another program is when you set yourself up for trouble. To think we never have or never will take someone who turns out to be "unfit" is likely to betray you at some point.

[Saint3333]

We have had our share of bad seeds no doubt about it, that would be extremely difficult to avoid. However I am not aware that we have brought in a transfer that left their former college due to suspension for grades or off the field activities.

[asu66]

I believe that since Charlotte is still an FCS Indy in 2014 that he can play immediately. They're a year behind us in the transition process because of the NCAA startup rules. They'll be FBS and play a CUSA schedule in 2015 but won't be bowl eligible.

No, anyone that transfers to Charlotte for this season has to sit a year. Since we are over the scholarship limit for FCS, we don't technically qualify as FCS, but we also don't count as FBS.

We got transfers from UGA, UT, and Syracuse this year, but none of them are eligible to play.

I read in "The Disturber" that your UGA transfer has some legal baggage hanging over his head. I hope he can get his feet back under him and get his good name back. You guys don't need headlines like this. We've learned a little about bad headlines in months past, but ours weren't caused by transfers. I wouldn't wish this on anyone

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 5dsG_ldWSo

[AppState89]

We have had our share of bad seeds no doubt about it, that would be extremely difficult to avoid. However I am not aware that we have brought in a transfer that left their former college due to suspension for grades or off the field activities.

I was getting ready to post the same thing. When it comes to trouble, we can just look in our own back yard. Hate to say it, but it's true.

[Gonzo]

We have had our share of bad seeds no doubt about it, that would be extremely difficult to avoid. However I am not aware that we have brought in a transfer that left their former college due to suspension for grades or off the field activities.

Yeah. That is what I was saying. Having kids screw up on occasion is inevitable. But to my knowledge we've never taken a player who was dismissed for those reasons elsewhere, which is what I understand UNCC has done with these recent transfers.

[Nugget49]

It is one transfer and he was not dismissed from UGA. Let's face it what he did was probably two parts stupid and one part illegal. Maybe a good accounting class will help him see why this was never going to work. So here is where it stands: Lemay agreed to pre-trial intervention and if he completes the terms of the agreement the charges will be dropped. What is important now is how he handles life moving forward. And that Charlotte's image remains unblemished of course.

[Yosef10]

I think you may be overgeneralizing a bit Nugget. More often than not these athletes, drop the whole bogus student-athlete shpeel, are good kids and the news of a couple getting in trouble makes the public believe the majority of athletes are entitled law-breakers which isn't really the case. And as far as either me or you joining the squad, your point is missed b/c that's ridiculous. If UNCCs program has that many kids with past records they might should reconsider the direction/constructing of the program.