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Re: FCS

Unread post by luvyosef » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:34 pm

1 FCS game will be enough. I can see ETSU making the trip east on 321 several times in the future. Go App!
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Re: FCS

Unread post by NewApp » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:58 pm

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WVAPPeer wrote:True --- but some did not want to play ANY - I believe that was what Cline was referring to ---
I must have missed the thread with the people that thought we would never play an FCS again. Most if not all the App fans I know with any knowledge of college football would know we will.
Who ever said we would never play an FCS team again? Not me.
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Re: FCS

Unread post by NewApp » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:02 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:True --- but some did not want to play ANY - I believe that was what Cline was referring to ---

Exactly.
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Re: FCS

Unread post by sonsofyosef » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:23 am

huskie3 wrote:I am ok with a 2nd FCS if it is someone like Montana or McNeese.
I agree, and would also be OK with FCS teams with whom we have had an history of rivalry, i.e. Western, ETSU, JMU. Nobody like Campbell or Liberty.

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Re: FCS

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:35 am

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huskie3 wrote:I am ok with a 2nd FCS if it is someone like Montana or McNeese.
I agree, and would also be OK with FCS teams with whom we have had an history of rivalry, i.e. Western, ETSU, JMU. Nobody like Campbell or Liberty.
I would like to work Furman is a bunch over the next few years so we can get the series lead on them. I don't care if it is "big brother beating up on younger brother." I would like to have the series lead in football.
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Re: FCS

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:31 am

The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.

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Re: FCS

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:13 pm

bcoach wrote:The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.
Me either, but most importantly because they defeated us.
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Re: FCS

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:14 pm

Which FCS school do I want to schedule each year?

The one that brings the most fans. The reason for playing FCS games is to euchre a 6th home game for the purpose of increasing revenue. Don't lose sight of the goal.

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Re: FCS

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:16 pm

bcoach wrote:The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.
Why not A&T?
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Re: FCS

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:51 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
bcoach wrote:The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.
Why not A&T?
Because we allow them to treat it like a home game. Their band plays over ours. They run over our entrance. The real problem is the way we act when they come to the Rock. We should NEVER allow that crap in our house.

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Re: FCS

Unread post by BleedingPurple » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:19 am

Please have your AD contact ours. I'd love to come to Boone. While he has Jeff Bourne on the phone convince him to join the SB.

I agree with playing more than one FCS team. While you are trying to build your program back up to a competitive level, whether new to FBS or been there 100 years, playing two competitive FCS games can make a lot of sense.

Though Duke did not do it, when they were the perennial bottom feeder of the ACC they should have played two FCS teams per season for a couple of years. I also, think these FCS teams should be not only be competitive, but also should have a great traveling fan base, i.e. JMU. The one game we played Duke, they had one of the largest turnouts in the previous 5 years down at Durham. The same for when we played UMD.

Sometimes an AD must take a hard look at where the program is, and realize that its not going to turn itself around in one season. As was demonstrated by Duke's hiring of David Cutliff. The man is a great coach, but his first 4 seasons was 4-8, 5-7, 3-9, 3-9. Then it began to turn, in 2012 6-7 and last year playing for the ACC title finishing at 10-4 and played in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl. During those first few seasons, there was good reason to bring in two, good traveling, FCS teams. They knew before the start of those seasons they wouldn't be bowling.

The one thing to be careful of is when announcing that two FCS games will be played, you also must let the fan base see that you have contracted some good FBS games a couple years down the road i.e. Notre Dame playing in Winston Salem back in 2011. People will forgive you if they can see that you will be taking care of them in a couple of years. Be transparent and let them know that this is where the program is, but here is our plan for the future.

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Re: FCS

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:33 am

bcoach wrote:
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bcoach wrote:The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.
Why not A&T?
Because we allow them to treat it like a home game. Their band plays over ours. They run over our entrance. The real problem is the way we act when they come to the Rock. We should NEVER allow that crap in our house.
Really don't understand that answer but from I read it has nothing to do with their football team? ---
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Re: FCS

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:06 am

bcoach wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
bcoach wrote:The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.
Why not A&T?
Because we allow them to treat it like a home game. Their band plays over ours. They run over our entrance. The real problem is the way we act when they come to the Rock. We should NEVER allow that crap in our house.

I personally thoroughly enjoyed the A&T band playing at half time. As opposed to being afraid of it why don't we just step up and win the game,or out play their band. I wasn't raised to run, my dad taught me that when you take a shot you give one back two fold.
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Re: FCS

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:49 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
bcoach wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
bcoach wrote:The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.
Why not A&T?
Because we allow them to treat it like a home game. Their band plays over ours. They run over our entrance. The real problem is the way we act when they come to the Rock. We should NEVER allow that crap in our house.
Really don't understand that answer but from I read it has nothing to do with their football team? ---
Also if you attended any of the "big" games at Elon the APP fans took over their stadium and if we had brought our 250 member BOD they would have totally swamped the 50 member Elon band --- A couple of years ago after the A&T game we stayed for the post game band show and the A&T band came down on the field and they and the BOD alternated playing tunes - IT WAS GREAT !!!
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Re: FCS

Unread post by AppAttack » Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:32 pm

One FCS and six home games should be the norm for the forseeable future.

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Re: FCS

Unread post by 87ASUgrad » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:43 pm

mtnjax wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:True --- but some did not want to play ANY - I believe that was what Cline was referring to ---
those people must be content then with a season like 2005 when we only had 4 home games...
Yes, I thought only 4 home games sucked in 2005, but that first National Championship that year was sweet!
I hope we continue the plan for 6 homes games and keep the FCS game in September. Love going back up to Boone for the home games. With one FCS game a year we still can qualify for bowl games.
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Unread post by Kgfish » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:17 am

We should never play more than 1 FCS game per year and none if possible.

Home games, # FCS, marquee home games in parenthesis.

SB:
Ark St 6-1, Ga So 5-1, Ga St 5-1 (AF), Idaho 5-0, ULL 6-1, ULM 5-0 (WF), NMSU 6-1, S Ala 6-0 (Miss St), Texas St 6-1 (Navy), Troy 6-1 (Duke).

CUSA:
UAB 6-1, FAU 5-0, FAU 8-2 (Louisville & Pitt), Marshall 6-1, MTSU 7-1, ODU 6-1, WKU 6-0 (Army), La Tech 5-1, N Texas 6-1 (SMU), Rice 5-0 (Hawaii), S Miss 6-1, UTEP 6-0 (Texas Tech), UTSA 6-0 (Arizona).

MAC:
Akron 6-1 (Indiana), BG 6-1, Buffalo 7-2 (Baylor), Kent 6-0 (Army), UMass 6-0 (Colorado), Miami 6-1, Ohio 6-1, Ball St 6-2, C Mich 6-1 (Syracuse), E Mich 5-1, N Ill 5-1, Toledo 6-1 (Missouri), W Mich 5-1.
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Re: FCS

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:06 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
bcoach wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:
bcoach wrote:The second FCS team would have to be a strong one for me to be happy but most important is 6 home games. I will also say that I really hope we NEVER schedule A&T again.
Why not A&T?
Because we allow them to treat it like a home game. Their band plays over ours. They run over our entrance. The real problem is the way we act when they come to the Rock. We should NEVER allow that crap in our house.
Really don't understand that answer but from I read it has nothing to do with their football team? ---
Also if you attended any of the "big" games at Elon the APP fans took over their stadium and if we had brought our 250 member BOD they would have totally swamped the 50 member Elon band --- A couple of years ago after the A&T game we stayed for the post game band show and the A&T band came down on the field and they and the BOD alternated playing tunes - IT WAS GREAT !!!
If our band gets shown up (not saying they did) it's hardly something to hold against the other band, it's kind of like blaming the other FB team for winning the game.
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Re: FCS

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:10 am

Can someone explain the line of thinking to me that playing a 2nd FCS team is OK, or at least more acceptable, if it is a strong FCS program? Is it just that you want to see a competitive game?

I've already given my thoughts, but in short:

- The goal starting in 2015 is to get bowl-eligible. Scheduling a 2nd FCS game hurts our chances there.

- Any FCS game should be as close to a sure win as possible. The goal for these games (besides scheduling another home game) is to play essentially a glorified scrimmage where we win by 30+ and get young players some experience. It is not to provide a down-to-the-wire thriller for fans.

- Continuing FCS "rivalries" is NOT desirable IMO, and would only delay our progress.

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