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Re: Sunday Morning QB on a Friday ---

Unread post by IGgreer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:32 am

Is it illegal for Tacoi Sumler to have a compass on the playing field so he can figure out which direction to run?

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:36 am

Maybe we can put a transmitter in his helmet and have Siri guide him north and south.

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Unread post by hapapp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:10 am

AppState89 wrote:Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!
I agree with you that we will need to be patient as this team matures. However, just because we are young doesn't mean the future is bright. I don't disagree with allowing younger players time to mature. I think that can be a sound approach but just because they are young doesn't mean that this team is destined for greatness. I certainly hope that our recruiting successes over the last two seasons pay dividends but we can't just assume that all these guys blossom on their own into the players we think, believe, or hope they can be.

I've said all along that 2015 could be the year that we see the fruits of our staff's labors. But, I think we set ourselves up if we delude ourselves into thinking that just because we are young now, with experience all will be fine and the mistakes that have plagued this program for a couple of years disappear.

This is not meant to be critical of Scott's approach with our recruits. I, in fact, generally find it to be smart. However, there are no guarantees that losing now will turn into winning later.

With a longer break between games and not traveling next weekend, I'm hopeful we see some improvement in our play (especially the absence of silly penalties in the red zond). The USA game is a chance to demonstrate that we are finding ways to correct these mistakes that are hindering our ability to score points. And, while I'm disappointed in our last two outcomes, I'm excited about getting back to KBS and watching the Apps notch their first SBC win.

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Re: Sunday Morning QB on a Friday ---

Unread post by roachgone » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:22 am

They didn't fumble because they didn't have to pitch. QB beat us by himself. And BTW this deal of we are young is getting old. I know we are young but we have been hearing we have a young team for 4 or 5 yrs. now. ARE WE EVER GOING TO BE A MATURE TEAM??

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Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:31 am

sixtoes9134 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.
Giving too much credit to GSU on this one. That was simply a ball that should not have been thrown.

We did have the ball in the red zone 3 times and came away with no points. To me, that's one major thing that has to get corrected.
All else being equal (and yes I know they are not), 5 trips to the red zone with no points could have translated to a 13 point win last week and a 1 point win last night. More than anything, the guys have to learn how to finish.

Was Matics hurt, I saw Critcher did some of the kickoffs?

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Unread post by hapapp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:40 am

AppfaninCAALand wrote:
sixtoes9134 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.
Giving too much credit to GSU on this one. That was simply a ball that should not have been thrown.

We did have the ball in the red zone 3 times and came away with no points. To me, that's one major thing that has to get corrected.
All else being equal (and yes I know they are not), 5 trips to the red zone with no points could have translated to a 13 point win last week and a 1 point win last night. More than anything, the guys have to learn how to finish.

Was Matics hurt, I saw Critcher did some of the kickoffs?
In the postgame Scott said he was fine when asked about that.

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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:31 pm

EastHallApp wrote:Just curious, because I wasn't around this board then - if not Satterfield, who did people think should be hired? Presumably not Elliott if the issue was previous HC experience.

I thought he was a pretty obvious and sensible choice. When a coach leaves a program that's been really successful, it's pretty normal for one of the coordinators to succeed him (see Oregon, Boise, Oklahoma St., Stanford, Wisconsin). And it's also not unusual for programs at the highest level to hire first-time HCs (see all of the above, plus Florida State, Oklahoma, Georgia, Clemson). Obviously doesn't always work, but it's not like it's such a crazy idea.


Oh, and AS2014 never misses a chance, does he?
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Horton was my first choice with Satterfield being my second choice. Granted, he didn't have HC experience either, but he did have BCS and App State experience. I will say that I was not disappointed with Satterfield's hire, and have supported his being HC since the announcement. However, I did want to answer your question.
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Unread post by YesAppCan » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:50 pm

Good point East... I had the gut feeling going into the game that GS would actually go the other way and fumble more than their average. They didn't... They played a great game and only threw the one pick and that was once the game was pretty much decided and never fumbled. I think the red zone issues we have are #1 priority... #2 is the total debacle of special teams: We kick too shallow on KO's, give up to many return yards (miss a lot of tackles on KO's and punts and thus give great field position for our opponents), can't consistently protect our punter, and can't make FGs or XPs without total fear or reality of missing them. Defense was indeed on field for 38+ minutes but it ultimately their job to get stops so they are not on the field so long---Satt said so much in post game interview.

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Unread post by clemmonsapp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:26 pm

I agree that this was a nearly impossible situation. I think with a week to prepare we may have been better against their offense. When you play a gimmick offense once a year you need time to prepare. Fatigue due to travel may also have been an issue.

That being said - we did not meet their intensity level at the beginning of the game. We have had the same problem in all three road games. Against motivated opponents on the road (Michigan - due to the Upset; Southern Miss.- due to lack of FBS wins for over a year; Ga. South - due to rivalry) we have not been ready. This has caused big deficits early which is a death blow. Watching the effort of Ga. South - running through blocks - running through tackles - was devastating. We need an emotional spark for this team.

I like this coaching staff and am not calling for change by any stretch, but we have 1 year plus of red zone misery to indicate systemic problems, not just execution (I understand it may be both). This off season our offensive coaches need to go and observe other teams that have our philosophy but actually score.

I think we will have a great effort next Saturday. Go Apps!

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Unread post by APPARJ » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:53 pm

Black Saturday wrote:Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.
This simply is not true.

Lamb completed passes to 7 different WRs last night and 10 last week.

Anyone that watches Lamb play can see he doesn't consistently stare down one receiver. Maybe he did a handful of times last night and it bit him in the butt. But to make a blanket statement like 'Well, ol' Lamb just locks into one receiver..." is misleading.
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Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:14 pm

The only comment I'll make is about the speed at which App's runs the offense. The 2 best TD drives App has had were both in the final 2 minutes of a half: the second half against USM and the first half against GaSo. Because of the time issue they had to go fast(jet) and were very efficient and effective.

Just my observation............

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Unread post by Black Saturday » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:38 pm

APPARJ wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.
This simply is not true.

Lamb completed passes to 7 different WRs last night and 10 last week.

Anyone that watches Lamb play can see he doesn't consistently stare down one receiver. Maybe he did a handful of times last night and it bit him in the butt. But to make a blanket statement like 'Well, ol' Lamb just locks into one receiver..." is misleading.
Maybe I'm not an astute observer as you, but it surely appeared that way, but I quit watching after 3 quarters, maybe he did better in the 4th?
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:03 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.
This simply is not true.

Lamb completed passes to 7 different WRs last night and 10 last week.

Anyone that watches Lamb play can see he doesn't consistently stare down one receiver. Maybe he did a handful of times last night and it bit him in the butt. But to make a blanket statement like 'Well, ol' Lamb just locks into one receiver..." is misleading.
Maybe I'm not an astute observer as you, but it surely appeared that way, but I quit watching after 3 quarters, maybe he did better in the 4th?
I believe you are quite astute BS - it only takes a couple of times locking on one receiver to cause big problems ---
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Unread post by appbio91 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:23 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.
This simply is not true.

Lamb completed passes to 7 different WRs last night and 10 last week.

Anyone that watches Lamb play can see he doesn't consistently stare down one receiver. Maybe he did a handful of times last night and it bit him in the butt. But to make a blanket statement like 'Well, ol' Lamb just locks into one receiver..." is misleading.
Maybe I'm not an astute observer as you, but it surely appeared that way, but I quit watching after 3 quarters, maybe he did better in the 4th?
He went to Jones a lot last night but I assumed it was because he was getting open. I did get annoyed at one point in the second half we he went to the JUCO transfer (sorry cant remember his name) several times within a few plays and it seemed the guys was in the wrong place every time. Generally I thought he spread it around pretty good.

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Unread post by appbio91 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:34 pm

EastHallApp wrote:Another point about last night - people talk about App's mistakes, and rightfully so. But GSU - who had fumbled 10 times in their first four games - didn't fumble once last night to my recollection.

Not only were we playing a better team, we caught them on a night where they played a cleaner game than they normally do.
To me they looked fired ass up. The crowd was great and it was just a good football atmosphere for them. Hopefully we can bring the same energy next week.

I think to an outside observer who does not know all of the excuses we throw around on here; young team, building depth, young coaching staff, etc and etc, would think that Ga SO was a much better team. At this point I have to agree with that as well. Unfortunately I think the move was better timed for them. They have already gone through their down turn and are on the upside of rebuilding. Our down slide was much slower and less obvious. We quietly went from dominant to on par with the rest of the So Con. We are rebuilding now. Maybe the Sun Belt is bad enough this year that we will get by.

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Unread post by asutrnr81 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:37 pm

appbio91 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.
This simply is not true.

Lamb completed passes to 7 different WRs last night and 10 last week.

Anyone that watches Lamb play can see he doesn't consistently stare down one receiver. Maybe he did a handful of times last night and it bit him in the butt. But to make a blanket statement like 'Well, ol' Lamb just locks into one receiver..." is misleading.
Maybe I'm not an astute observer as you, but it surely appeared that way, but I quit watching after 3 quarters, maybe he did better in the 4th?
Late in the game on several plays we had 1 (ONE) receiver on the field that started at Michigan/Campbell. Malichi and Bobo were banged up. McFresh (The Waffle House Kid) was the only "starter" on the field.

He went to Jones a lot last night but I assumed it was because he was getting open. I did get annoyed at one point in the second half we he went to the JUCO transfer (sorry cant remember his name) several times within a few plays and it seemed the guys was in the wrong place every time. Generally I thought he spread it around pretty good.
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:47 pm

" I did get annoyed at one point in the second half we he went to the JUCO transfer (sorry cant remember his name) several times within a few plays and it seemed the guys was in the wrong place every time."

McGuire - and according to Coach all 3 times it was a bad throw by Lamb - the first in the end zone was a back shoulder throw and he misplaced the pass, the very next play they ran the same thing and Taylor threw it to the inside and was intercepted - later he overthrew McGuire in the back of the end zone ---
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:57 am

Lamb made a perfect back shoulder throw against S. miss. That throw is indefensible when you execute it. Lamb will continue to get better and timing with WRs will improve.

Timing with WRs is sooooo important, we just need more reps with this crew.

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Unread post by AppAttack » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:05 am

Speaking of McGuire (#84 I believe), I really like the looks of this kid. He has good size. I really think he can help us more and more over time.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:19 am

I think he had a coming out party Thursday, reminds me of Mayfield.

Sims, McGuire, and Jones are a solid three for a lamb the rest of the year. Burns has to be used more going forward IMO.

I think we are going to redshirt all the freshman WR baring any injuries.

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