My record will be gone

[ASUMountaineer]

Honestly this is one of the dumbest messageboard threads i've read in a long time. First we had someone who needed to announce to the world he wasen't going to GSU. I'm not going either, but I didn't need to tell everyone. Then we started having people bash him for not being a true fan. Who are you guys to tell someone weather they are a true fan. Then it turned into a who donated more, argument and now we are back to what most App arguments end up being, a FCS vs FBS debate. Glad to know we could all encompass all the crap in one thread.

Now we have someone posting to tell everyone that this is "one of the dumbest messageboard threads" read in a long time. Yup, you're right...it has "all of the crap in one thread."

[ASUMountaineer]

"You and Norton may have a valid point if we were 2-9 last year and 1-7 this year...we made the playoffs last year and are in contention to do so again this year, let's slow down on the book of Revelation coming true...and as far as returning tickets, this is just plain dumb IMO, "I'll show you, I'll throw away my own money!"..Coach Moore is one of the most postive people I know (and I've spent time with him personally). The truth is that most positive people have zero time for negative nancys"

With the expectations of this program 7-4 might as well be 2-9. Simply making the playoffs isn't good enough for a fan base demanding to contend for the national championship every year. They have provided the resources necessary to compete for the championship on a regular basis and it is foolish to think they will be satisfied with anything less. Welcome to life at the top.

As a matter of clarity and to satisfy my own curosity, I did a little research on Mr Norton. Do you know that he and and his wife only gives the paltry sum of $5000 annually to Yosef! With such feable support of the program how dare he expect more from it! Upon further examination I discovered the Norton's gave at the $10,000 level the previous three years. Ah ha! The the smoking gun! Obviously cutting his donation in half is proof positive of Mr Norton's vendetta against Coach Moore as claimed by Mr JCline.

Some of you guys are nuts!

You're absolutely correct with that last statement. It is crazy to get on a message board behind an anonymous screen name and waste time denigrating someone. Don't you have anything better to do?

I think everyone on this board would agree that the past few years have been lackluster by ASU's standards. But, most reasonable people would also agree that sometimes teams have down years. I just think, given history of work, that it's ridiculous to criticize coach the way people do on this board. Accurate criticism is valid, but a lot of people make it sound like we're Memphis or WCU. We're not, we've never been like that under JM, and won't be. Believe it or not, the sky is not falling, the sun will come up tomorrow, and life will go on. You may be disappointed to learn that JM is still employed, but that's just sad for you.

Guess you do not "hide behind" ASU Mountaineer, or is that your given name? Not a troll, ASU grad & Yosef Club memeber way before 2005 when most of you bandwagon fans jumped onboard.

I never said that I do not hide behind my screen name. You clearly missed the point that you are hiding behind your screen name while publicly questioning someone's character anonymously (I am not). That's actually quite a simple concept to understand that any ASU grad should be able to grasp.

BTW, I'm an ASU grad and have been a Yosef Club member for years too (I just don't feel the need to brag about my donations throughout the years on the MMB). So, unfortunately, your weak "bandwagon" smack doesn't apply. Nice try though...

As I said, keep trollin'.

I did not miss the point, just thought it ironic someone calling me out was doing (posting under a screen name) the same thing. I know, I know. You say I bashed someone and you don not do that. I get it. Glad you have been around a while, but you know we have a tone of bandwagon fans. If a troll is a 20 year Yosef Club member then I accept the label.

Eh, the point was clear and accurate which left out the irony. I'm glad you got the point, though.

As for being a troll, length of time being a fan is irrelevant.

And, yes we do have a ton of bandwagon fans. But, a loss Saturday could thin the herd a bit.

[Yosef84]

Honestly this is one of the dumbest messageboard threads i've read in a long time. First we had someone who needed to announce to the world he wasen't going to GSU. I'm not going either, but I didn't need to tell everyone. Then we started having people bash him for not being a true fan. Who are you guys to tell someone weather they are a true fan. Then it turned into a who donated more, argument and now we are back to what most App arguments end up being, a FCS vs FBS debate. Glad to know we could all encompass all the crap in one thread.

We also had some political comments thrown about. For the record, lexington style BBQ is the best, and we really need to go with Coke instead of Pepsi at the games. Also, I'm tired of the No Equal slogan..definitely played out...and I think we need a new stadium cup design. The track should be relocated so that the track team has a first rate facility of their own and the field can be lowered. Actually, the entire stadium should be rebuilt using concrete because aluminum is bush league. The band should be in the end zone. They should be bigger and keep up the flashy shows, but they should NOT use electric instruments. The PA music should coordinate better with the band...and Old School Yosef rules!

That's better. I was afraid we would miss something.

1. Many of the people associated with the track program like having the track within the stadium complex.
2. Pepsi typically gives athetic entities a much better deal than coke. Hundreds of scoreboards across NC are donated by Pepsico in return for the business.
3. LexCue may be considered the best but a Woodlands Cue at the game rivals it.
4. Spot on about the PA music.
5. The third down graphic (bell) should instead be an actually hand operated bell.

JC, I think you know this but for those who might not know, that list was intended for humorous effect. I agree with some, but not all of the statements made there. They just represent on-going comments/issues that show up on MMB over and over and over and over.

[goapps93]

ASUMountaineer said:
Eh, the point was clear and accurate which left out the irony. I'm glad you got the point, though.

As for being a troll, length of time being a fan is irrelevant.

And, yes we do have a ton of bandwagon fans. But, a loss Saturday could thin the herd a bit.

Bandwagon fans are still fans. They buy stuff. We need them. Though you are right that the herd would be thinned with a loss, we don't need that to happen.

[Kgfish]

Your comarisons are not valid. The BCS programs you referenced have mostly the same resources which makes attaining national championships much more difficult. That is not the case in FCS where there are perhaps a half dozen programs with close to the same resources of ASU.

In 2011, the ASU Athletic Department generated $17.75M in total revenue.

James Madison, Delaware, Old Dominion, William & Mary, Towson, Coastal Carolina, North Dakota, Southern Illinois, Montana and Montana State all generated more revenue than that and in many cases, a LOT more. Programs like Northern Iowa, Illinois State, Stephen F. Austin and North Dakota State are all right in our ballpark as well.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/c ... 54955804/1

We should not be satisfied to stay where we are but there are many FCS programs with similar or greater resources than us, many of which are nowhere near as successful.

The use of the word "revenue" is a bit misleading considering institutional support is included in schools revenues. One look at the subsidy catagory and the picture becomes clear. Of the schools you mentioned only 6 (what number did I say?) get 50% or less of their "revenues" from institutional support: Montana 42%, N Iowa and W&M at 47%, ND & NDS 48% and ASU 50%. Those schools are generating a majority of revenue through ticket sales, sponshorships and contributions. The rest depend on their school to finance a majority of their program, and in my book that isn't at our level. S Ill 64%, Ill St 65%, N Ill 69%, Mont St 70%, ODU 72%, Del 79%, Coastal 82%, SFA & JMU 83% and Towson 85%.

[ASUMountaineer]

ASUMountaineer said:
Eh, the point was clear and accurate which left out the irony. I'm glad you got the point, though.

As for being a troll, length of time being a fan is irrelevant.

And, yes we do have a ton of bandwagon fans. But, a loss Saturday could thin the herd a bit.

Bandwagon fans are still fans. They buy stuff. We need them. Though you are right that the herd would be thinned with a loss, we don't need that to happen.

Agreed on all counts.

[yosefederation]

We also had some political comments thrown about. For the record, lexington style BBQ is the best, and we really need to go with Coke instead of Pepsi at the games. Also, I'm tired of the No Equal slogan..definitely played out...and I think we need a new stadium cup design. The track should be relocated so that the track team has a first rate facility of their own and the field can be lowered. Actually, the entire stadium should be rebuilt using concrete because aluminum is bush league. The band should be in the end zone. They should be bigger and keep up the flashy shows, but they should NOT use electric instruments. The PA music should coordinate better with the band...and Old School Yosef rules.

Yosef84 You are dead on with your analysis, except we all know eastern NC BBQ rules and pepsi was born in the carolinas, therefore trumps some Atlanta coca-cola

[Rekdiver]

I prefer Cheerwine with my Q. I prefer pork to beef. And I like vinegar based. Tomato based and yes even mustard base sauce. Macs Speed Shop in Charlotte isn't a bad place to eat Q either.

[Deano]

I would jump on this post but I think EVERYTHING has been discussed EXCEPT the game this weekend. This reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where its alot of talk about nothing.

[JCline0429]

Honestly this is one of the dumbest messageboard threads i've read in a long time. First we had someone who needed to announce to the world he wasen't going to GSU. I'm not going either, but I didn't need to tell everyone. Then we started having people bash him for not being a true fan. Who are you guys to tell someone weather they are a true fan. Then it turned into a who donated more, argument and now we are back to what most App arguments end up being, a FCS vs FBS debate. Glad to know we could all encompass all the crap in one thread.

We also had some political comments thrown about. For the record, lexington style BBQ is the best, and we really need to go with Coke instead of Pepsi at the games. Also, I'm tired of the No Equal slogan..definitely played out...and I think we need a new stadium cup design. The track should be relocated so that the track team has a first rate facility of their own and the field can be lowered. Actually, the entire stadium should be rebuilt using concrete because aluminum is bush league. The band should be in the end zone. They should be bigger and keep up the flashy shows, but they should NOT use electric instruments. The PA music should coordinate better with the band...and Old School Yosef rules!

That's better. I was afraid we would miss something.

1. Many of the people associated with the track program like having the track within the stadium complex.
2. Pepsi typically gives athetic entities a much better deal than coke. Hundreds of scoreboards across NC are donated by Pepsico in return for the business.
3. LexCue may be considered the best but a Woodlands Cue at the game rivals it.
4. Spot on about the PA music.
5. The third down graphic (bell) should instead be an actually hand operated bell.

JC, I think you know this but for those who might not know, that list was intended for humorous effect. I agree with some, but not all of the statements made there. They just represent on-going comments/issues that show up on MMB over and over and over and over.

I know, but I had to support Woodlands since they actually vend their Q in the stadium. What gets me though is that Charlie won't let them sell their iced tea. Bummer.

[appst89]

I doubt that Charlie has anything to do with it. More likely, it's the Pepsi contract that won't allow it.

[JCline0429]

Woodlands thinks it is Charlie's call.
Remember, we sell hot chocolate which is far from being a Pepsi product.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Have tickets to GSU game and have missed one game, home and away since 1997. Can not justify going to this game with our lack of discipline and leadership. Does anyone want to buy? If not , will be sent to JM later this week with my concerns.

Did you make it to the game or not?

[Black Saturday]

Have tickets to GSU game and have missed one game, home and away since 1997. Can not justify going to this game with our lack of discipline and leadership. Does anyone want to buy? If not , will be sent to JM later this week with my concerns.

Did you make it to the game or not?

Who cares? We won a huge game in Hell today, no less.

[appthunder90]

SO, uh. How would y'all like me to prepare the crow this evening? We have a nice hollandaise glaze, or we can smoke em all night for some crowbecue.

[AppinATL]

Have tickets to GSU game and have missed one game, home and away since 1997. Can not justify going to this game with our lack of discipline and leadership. Does anyone want to buy? If not , will be sent to JM later this week with my concerns.

Well, I hope you stayed home and missed it, you bandwagon-jumping-off. So-called fan.

[Rekdiver]

Norton may not surface foe a while. I need some more tickets for the Furman game Robert if you want to sell yours.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Have tickets to GSU game and have missed one game, home and away since 1997. Can not justify going to this game with our lack of discipline and leadership. Does anyone want to buy? If not , will be sent to JM later this week with my concerns.

Did you make it to the game or not?

Who cares? We won a huge game in Hell today, no less.

True, but I was curious, even though I know I am feeding his ego by asking.

[87ASUgrad]

Coincidence? GATA?

Gave
APP
Tickets
Away

JK Norton.

[AppinVA]

Coincidence? GATA?

Gave
APP
Tickets
Away

JK Norton.

Okay, that one is funny.