AD Search Update?

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AD Search Update?

Unread post by appgrad » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:41 pm

Hadn't heard much, but saw this little blurb on CollegeAD.com -

1) Appalachian State University

November 12th, 2014— The Athletics Director position is now open at App State. Review of applications begins in January. For more information on applying, contact AppStateAD@collegiatesportsassociates.com.


Link: http://collegead.org/athletic-director-jobs/

Sorry if this has already been posted - but looking forward to seeing who the candidates are!

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:09 am

It appears ESPN likes Beasley.

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by mtnjax » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:13 am

I'm assuming collegiate sports associates is the search firm then. Here's hoping we get someone who will know how to best move App athletics forward

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:15 am

CVAPP wrote:It appears ESPN likes Beasley.

Did he speak at halftime? What did he say?

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Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:47 am

He did. He touched briefly on facilities improvements over the past 8-9 years, and the waiver request. He said they did it for the 14 seniors and the fans that would enjoy a bowl experience. I suppose he has been reading this board as he specifically mentioned "we knew what the rules were going in". He praised Satt. and the new hoops coaches. He said he expects the Holmes Center will start filling up soon :o

The ESPN guy closed the segment with he hopes the hire is Beasley.

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by NewApp » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:08 am

Do we know for sure that Rick wants the permanent A.D. job? Has he formally applied for it?
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Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:24 am

I love Rick but I just don't think he is AD material.

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Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:25 pm

I think he is, and have no doubt he learned from Cobb's mistakes. I am no insider to the work environment in our Athletics Department, but if his staff supports him (and I don't know that they do), I don't think we need visionary leadership at this point. Just solid decision making and proper handling of the finances.
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Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:19 pm

We didn't hire a search firm to hire the guy who's already here. If we do, then everyone involved is stupid for wasting money.

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Unread post by proasu89 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:50 pm

NewApp wrote:Do we know for sure that Rick wants the permanent A.D. job? Has he formally applied for it?
He applied.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:20 pm

T-Dog wrote:We didn't hire a search firm to hire the guy who's already here. If we do, then everyone involved is stupid for wasting money.
So App should either hire Beasley without considering any other candidates, or refuse to consider hiring him once they hire the search firm, even if none of the other candidates turn out to be better?

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:19 pm

With all due respect, why would we not want visionary leadership? We need a breath of experience and connections well beyond what Rick possesses. Rick can focus on execution without being the leader.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:31 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
T-Dog wrote:We didn't hire a search firm to hire the guy who's already here. If we do, then everyone involved is stupid for wasting money.
So App should either hire Beasley without considering any other candidates, or refuse to consider hiring him once they hire the search firm, even if none of the other candidates turn out to be better?
You're going to extremes here.

We have a 19-person search committee who elected to hire a firm that would screen candidates. If it was going to be Beasley, they wouldn't have hired the firm. And I really like Rick and hope he sticks around as associate AD.

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by Goapps15 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:34 pm

Rick is great at his current job. However, he is not full-time AD material. App needs to got out and make a strong hire here. An in-house hire would not be the smart move long term for this athletic department.

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:50 pm

still think it'd be best to bring someone in that doesn't have any ties to appalachian

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:58 pm

T-Dog wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
T-Dog wrote:We didn't hire a search firm to hire the guy who's already here. If we do, then everyone involved is stupid for wasting money.
So App should either hire Beasley without considering any other candidates, or refuse to consider hiring him once they hire the search firm, even if none of the other candidates turn out to be better?
You're going to extremes here.

We have a 19-person search committee who elected to hire a firm that would screen candidates. If it was going to be Beasley, they wouldn't have hired the firm. And I really like Rick and hope he sticks around as associate AD.

I don't understand how what I wrote is more "extreme" than what you wrote. You said App would be stupid to hire Beasley after hiring the search firm. Logically, then, you are saying that to avoid being stupid and wasting money, we would have either needed to hire Beasley without ever hiring the search firm, or now that we've hired the search firm, we must hire someone else as AD.

Maybe you are saying App should have conducted a search on our own, without the firm. But in that case, the search firm would be a waste of money regardless of whom we ultimately hire.

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:05 pm

And the point of your analysis is? Why is it necessary to pick apart a comment when the intent of the comment is clear?

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by appgrad » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:48 am

I like Rick Beasley a lot...but people need to realize that the way someone administers when they're an interim isn't necessarily how they'll administer in a permanent role. Interims are pretty much playing with house money.

Also - I think our goal is to have someone who can take fundraising above and beyond what it is now, along with ideas on how to improve basketball attendance, marketing, scheduling, etc. Possible that Beasley could do those things - but there are also probably guys at smaller schools who are having success that deserve a look.

And it's funny to me that so many people love Beasley, then openly wonder what Cobb ever did for App. Seem to recall Beasley was 100% a Charlie Cobb hire.

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:10 am

Rekdiver wrote:And the point of your analysis is? Why is it necessary to pick apart a comment when the intent of the comment is clear?
I am assuming the intent of the comment is the same as its substance. If that's the case, I picked it apart because I disagree with it.

If T-Dog's intended meaning was something different that what he actually wrote (e.g., he doesn't think Beasley should be the hire), then perhaps he will say so directly to clarify for me.

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Re: AD Search Update?

Unread post by WER4ASU » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:41 am

Seems like a lot of good stuff has happened since "the Cobb exit!"

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