Here is the conference dream

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:07 am

APPARJ wrote:
spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.
The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.
Because they now are.

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:38 pm

I really don't want this place to go Full Realignment Stir-Crazy again, it was just getting better.

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by APPARJ » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:56 pm

bcoach wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.
The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.
Because they now are.
In terms of on the field? Sure. In terms of cash generation and TV market potential? No.

And we all know how much conferences consider success on the field vs. money.
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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by NewApp » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:25 pm

crossza wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.
The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.
The ACC prides itself on academics and basketball and ECU just isn't up to par with them. I think we have higher academic standards than ECU? Am I wrong?
No, overall you are not wrong.
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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by spong » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:15 pm

ECU would be interested in joining the ACC. They would be a good member and probably help ACC football. The reality is the last time ACC looked at expansion (when Maryland left) they took Louisville and considered at least Navy over them. So they know that the ACC dream is probably 10 years or more down the line.

As of right now they are in the AAC (American Athletic Conference) which is NOT the ACC by any stretch. It is not the conference they sign up for when it was a power conference. They've lost their natural rivals. They really aren't that happy.

East Carolina has expressed interest in being in the same conference as App in the past. After our two recent football games they were big advocates for us in CUSA. If we had been selected for CUSA instead of UNCC They might have been slower to leave CUSA. A lot of ECU fans right now would say being in CUSA with Marshall and App State would be a better situation than being in AAC and playing Temple, SMU, and Tulane.

The frien-emy conference is just a dream but it's the off-season. This is a good time to dream.

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:28 pm

I think that ECU has about as much chance of getting into the ACC as App. I don't think any of the Big Four want another school from NC and I don't think the other members want another school in NC either.

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by Yosef10 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:42 pm

spong wrote:ECU would be interested in joining the ACC. They would be a good member and probably help ACC football. The reality is the last time ACC looked at expansion (when Maryland left) they took Louisville and considered at least Navy over them. So they know that the ACC dream is probably 10 years or more down the line.

As of right now they are in the AAC (American Athletic Conference) which is NOT the ACC by any stretch. It is not the conference they sign up for when it was a power conference. They've lost their natural rivals. They really aren't that happy.

East Carolina has expressed interest in being in the same conference as App in the past. After our two recent football games they were big advocates for us in CUSA. If we had been selected for CUSA instead of UNCC They might have been slower to leave CUSA. A lot of ECU fans right now would say being in CUSA with Marshall and App State would be a better situation than being in AAC and playing Temple, SMU, and Tulane.

The frien-emy conference is just a dream but it's the off-season. This is a good time to dream.
Yeah I'm not sure you could find me 10 ECU fans that would agree with that. Maybe a lot of ECU fans would wanna be in a conference with us and Marshall, maybe, but they would not trade the AAC for tbe current state of CUSA with or without App State.

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by Boone Goon » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:46 pm

As for the academics at ECU vs. App...recent freshmen class comparisons...

App 4.1 with a 1180 SAT

ECU 3.2, with a 1077 SAT

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by AppinVA » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:04 pm

Boone Goon wrote:As for the academics at ECU vs. App...recent freshmen class comparisons...

App 4.1 with a 1180 SAT

ECU 3.2, with a 1077 SAT
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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:07 pm

The correct grammar is, "If I were..." But I get your point. I'd be in the same boat.

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by AppinVA » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:22 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:The correct grammar is, "If I were..." But I get your point. I'd be in the same boat.
The subjunctive verbs were and was. You've found my kryptonite. :lol:

Since I'm a Mountaineer, Iizza fixinta use "Iffens I was..."
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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by asunewbie » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:18 am

With UAB losing their football program, the consensus seems to be that C-USA will try to snag a Sun Belt member to fill their spot. Looks like some of this mid-major realignment is gaining some traction.

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Re: Here is the conference dream

Unread post by JTApps1 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:17 am

Yosef10 wrote:
spong wrote:ECU would be interested in joining the ACC. They would be a good member and probably help ACC football. The reality is the last time ACC looked at expansion (when Maryland left) they took Louisville and considered at least Navy over them. So they know that the ACC dream is probably 10 years or more down the line.

As of right now they are in the AAC (American Athletic Conference) which is NOT the ACC by any stretch. It is not the conference they sign up for when it was a power conference. They've lost their natural rivals. They really aren't that happy.

East Carolina has expressed interest in being in the same conference as App in the past. After our two recent football games they were big advocates for us in CUSA. If we had been selected for CUSA instead of UNCC They might have been slower to leave CUSA. A lot of ECU fans right now would say being in CUSA with Marshall and App State would be a better situation than being in AAC and playing Temple, SMU, and Tulane.

The frien-emy conference is just a dream but it's the off-season. This is a good time to dream.
Yeah I'm not sure you could find me 10 ECU fans that would agree with that. Maybe a lot of ECU fans would wanna be in a conference with us and Marshall, maybe, but they would not trade the AAC for tbe current state of CUSA with or without App State.
Yeah, no way ECU will leave the AAC for any other G5 conference unless the AAC somehow falls apart. The only real chance for us to be in the same league is if the Big 12 grabs a few AAC teams and ECU can lobby for us to join them in the AAC.

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