Recruiting, 2015

[JTApps1]

What a pasty little prick. Decommitting, then publicly insulting a school that spent 9 months with him and his family. Recruiting is always cut throat and I don't usually react like this to a flip, but I wish nothing but misfortune to that little f***er.

I get where you coming from Gnzo but I think the kid did the right thing for him. A P5 offer is looked upon as better than a G5 offer. It's not always true but that is the reality. He got his first P5 offer late and as a parent, I would advise him to take the opportunity to explore the option. He asked all the right questions and felt it was a better fit for him. I don't like the outcome but I am impressed with how he conducted his research to make an informed decision. I didn't see where he insulted us.

its an insult to our coaching staff who, as Sloan said on twitter, spent 9 months building the relationship with kid to the point that he committed to App, but he decided after an offer and only 10 days of talking with Cuse that he would rather go there. basically, he gave our staff the middle finger as reward for all the work they put in from the start, while Cuse came in at the last minute because they whiffed on someone else

We came in late and took Davis from The Citadel, and tried to get Roth and Thomas to switch late. We may not do so e of the sketchy things some staffs do, but in the end how is it different?

[APPARJ]

What a pasty little prick. Decommitting, then publicly insulting a school that spent 9 months with him and his family. Recruiting is always cut throat and I don't usually react like this to a flip, but I wish nothing but misfortune to that little f***er.

I get where you coming from Gnzo but I think the kid did the right thing for him. A P5 offer is looked upon as better than a G5 offer. It's not always true but that is the reality. He got his first P5 offer late and as a parent, I would advise him to take the opportunity to explore the option. He asked all the right questions and felt it was a better fit for him. I don't like the outcome but I am impressed with how he conducted his research to make an informed decision. I didn't see where he insulted us.

its an insult to our coaching staff who, as Sloan said on twitter, spent 9 months building the relationship with kid to the point that he committed to App, but he decided after an offer and only 10 days of talking with Cuse that he would rather go there. basically, he gave our staff the middle finger as reward for all the work they put in from the start, while Cuse came in at the last minute because they whiffed on someone else

We came in late and took Davis from The Citadel, and tried to get Roth and Thomas to switch late. We may not do so e of the sketchy things some staffs do, but in the end how is it different?

Context matters.

When Syracuse offered, Whitner told Sloan that he was not switching his commitment. If Whitner said he was on the fence then Sloan could've pulled the offer and gone after a backup during the last 10 days. Of course, Whitner did go back on what he told Sloan.

If Whitner had said "You know, coach... I'd like to seriously consider playing ACC football" then I promise Sloan doesn't publish that tweet.

I'm not sure what the situation was with Davis but if he told Coach Houston he wasn't going anywhere and left, that would be equally low.

Recruiting is tough.

[firemoose]

Not part of this discussion but loving the fixed site. However, one little problem. All the changes I was able to make in the last two days are gone. I was able to copy the front page so I can see all the changes I made to it but I now have to go back and rebuild and re-edit all the pages I worked on. That's going to take me a hour or two so if you go to the Main page tonight know it'll be a bit before it's up to date for today.

One little side bar post, since people have mentioned losing Thompson. One player people may have forgotten is DE Morgan Wilson. Before he was injured at the beginning of this season he was getting a lot of P5 interest, as he did as a Jr. If we can get him back to 100% he can be a big addition at DE for us. He is already listed on the .edu site but not showing what class he's in. Looks like he's already paid his first fees (which would explain having an App State e-mail address but not a class rank) and might be setting up to come as soon as his school is out to really start working with the S & C staff. Could be a PWO steal for us. Time will tell.

[EastHallApp]

I'm sorry we lost Whitner and missed on Thompson, but we've added, what, eight commits in the past week? Including one of the top guys on our board regardless of position in Adams. I sure wouldn't call that closing with a thud.

Just have to avoid further decommits. Last year we had several IIRC. So far this year, only two, and one of those rumored to be mutual.

[JTApps1]

What a pasty little prick. Decommitting, then publicly insulting a school that spent 9 months with him and his family. Recruiting is always cut throat and I don't usually react like this to a flip, but I wish nothing but misfortune to that little f***er.

I get where you coming from Gnzo but I think the kid did the right thing for him. A P5 offer is looked upon as better than a G5 offer. It's not always true but that is the reality. He got his first P5 offer late and as a parent, I would advise him to take the opportunity to explore the option. He asked all the right questions and felt it was a better fit for him. I don't like the outcome but I am impressed with how he conducted his research to make an informed decision. I didn't see where he insulted us.

its an insult to our coaching staff who, as Sloan said on twitter, spent 9 months building the relationship with kid to the point that he committed to App, but he decided after an offer and only 10 days of talking with Cuse that he would rather go there. basically, he gave our staff the middle finger as reward for all the work they put in from the start, while Cuse came in at the last minute because they whiffed on someone else

We came in late and took Davis from The Citadel, and tried to get Roth and Thomas to switch late. We may not do so e of the sketchy things some staffs do, but in the end how is it different?

Context matters.

When Syracuse offered, Whitner told Sloan that he was not switching his commitment. If Whitner said he was on the fence then Sloan could've pulled the offer and gone after a backup during the last 10 days. Of course, Whitner did go back on what he told Sloan.

If Whitner had said "You know, coach... I'd like to seriously consider playing ACC football" then I promise Sloan doesn't publish that tweet.

I'm not sure what the situation was with Davis but if he told Coach Houston he wasn't going anywhere and left, that would be equally low.

Recruiting is tough.

That's not the first or last time a kid has said that before taking a visit. If he truly wasn't interested he would have turned down the visit. Sloan knows how it works and that is why we brought in so many potential DB's. This could very well explain why they wanted to keep Hayes commitment quiet so long. Last week everyone was worried about losing Fortune, but it now looks like we are in good shape with him so it might all work out just fine. All recruits are a crap shoot anyways.

[T-Dog]

MountaineerSZN

[24AppState]

This may be a dumb question but, what does MountaineersSZN stand for?

[bigdaddyg]

I guess I could dig back through 47 pages of responses but to save that effort can someone fill me in on Daniel David. I read his data on the recruiting tab and see that he is rated as a 3-star. Like many others I don't put a tremendous amount of stock in the ratings but still, 3-star is stout. Does anyone see a legit QB battle in the Spring and fall?

[manonabuffalo]

What a pasty little prick. Decommitting, then publicly insulting a school that spent 9 months with him and his family. Recruiting is always cut throat and I don't usually react like this to a flip, but I wish nothing but misfortune to that little f***er.

I get where you coming from Gnzo but I think the kid did the right thing for him. A P5 offer is looked upon as better than a G5 offer. It's not always true but that is the reality. He got his first P5 offer late and as a parent, I would advise him to take the opportunity to explore the option. He asked all the right questions and felt it was a better fit for him. I don't like the outcome but I am impressed with how he conducted his research to make an informed decision. I didn't see where he insulted us.

its an insult to our coaching staff who, as Sloan said on twitter, spent 9 months building the relationship with kid to the point that he committed to App, but he decided after an offer and only 10 days of talking with Cuse that he would rather go there. basically, he gave our staff the middle finger as reward for all the work they put in from the start, while Cuse came in at the last minute because they whiffed on someone else

We came in late and took Davis from The Citadel, and tried to get Roth and Thomas to switch late. We may not do so e of the sketchy things some staffs do, but in the end how is it different?

Context matters.

When Syracuse offered, Whitner told Sloan that he was not switching his commitment. If Whitner said he was on the fence then Sloan could've pulled the offer and gone after a backup during the last 10 days. Of course, Whitner did go back on what he told Sloan.

If Whitner had said "You know, coach... I'd like to seriously consider playing ACC football" then I promise Sloan doesn't publish that tweet.

I'm not sure what the situation was with Davis but if he told Coach Houston he wasn't going anywhere and left, that would be equally low.

Recruiting is tough.

Hey gents, I am still around here even though a number of you thought I would pack it up, been lurking heavily.

To address the Whitner stuff: This kid had "limelight seeker" written all over him. Look at his pages, he takes a pic in whatever school's gear he visits. He craved the attention and basically used App to get a P5 offer. He was going to jump at the first "bigger" school that showed. I get that these kids take on this selfish personality during the recruiting process, but some don't know when to turn it off. Football is a team game in the end, and we are likely better for it in the long run with this one. The unfortunate piece here is the time and effort our staff devoted to likely massaging his ego in an effort to build a relationship, the blow-back being the domino effect to occur as we look to fill a roster spot with someone else's commit.

[EastHallApp]

I guess I could dig back through 47 pages of responses but to save that effort can someone fill me in on Daniel David. I read his data on the recruiting tab and see that he is rated as a 3-star. Like many others I don't put a tremendous amount of stock in the ratings but still, 3-star is stout. Does anyone see a legit QB battle in the Spring and fall?

He's not here in the spring, and I don't think anyone's challenging Lamb for the job as long as he's healthy anyway. Looks like a great one for the future, though. JMHO, of course.

[EastHallApp]

MountaineerSZN

Did we get another one?

Also, I'd love to know what this stands for too.

[asknoquarter21]

I think the question will be David or Caruso as our backup QB. I think both are more than capable, but what we saw from Lamb in his first season is very impressive. I think we have three QBs capable of starting, but this is Lamb's team now, and we should be happy to have the most important position covered.

I guess I could dig back through 47 pages of responses but to save that effort can someone fill me in on Daniel David. I read his data on the recruiting tab and see that he is rated as a 3-star. Like many others I don't put a tremendous amount of stock in the ratings but still, 3-star is stout. Does anyone see a legit QB battle in the Spring and fall?

[firemoose]

MountaineerSZN

Did we get another one?

Also, I'd love to know what this stands for too.

Not really. LB Anthony Flory made it more official this morning but offered his verbal back on the 25th.

[AtlAppMan]

Totally agree it is Lamb's team but in this game you need top quality backups (depth) at EVERY position. Just ask Urban Meyer.

[firemoose]

This may be a dumb question but, what does MountaineersSZN stand for?

It's a slang term for season. Comes from Drake's TOPSZN brand. It also has other meanings not meant for the board but as for our recruits just read it as "It's Mountaineer Season". Whitner started using it when he committed way back when. Doesn't look as though it applies to him any more.

[APPARJ]

Mark Speir's son is getting a PWO position? That is too cool.

Satt and Speir are great friends. It's a testament to App State that his son would want to go to school in Boone while his dad is coaching the Cats.

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/hshu ... /22764043/

[firemoose]

Mark Speir's son is getting a PWO position? That is too cool.

Satt and Speir are great friends. It's a testament to App State that his son would want to go to school in Boone while his dad is coaching the Cats.

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/hshu ... /22764043/

Was putting up a player page for him in the Other Newcomers section. It's up now.

[manonabuffalo]

Not sure how I feel about this, it doesn't look great when his own dad didn't want to use a scholarship on him at WCU.

Looks to be low risk when we get him as a walk-on non-scholly QB. I hope he feels good about his decision, because he could likely go to a D2 school and actually get a fair amount of PT.

[firemoose]

Not sure how I feel about this, it doesn't look great when his own dad didn't want to use a scholarship on him at WCU.

Looks to be low risk when we get him as a walk-on non-scholly QB. I hope he feels good about his decision, because he could likely go to a D2 school and actually get a fair amount of PT.

Could cut both ways...He could hate Western so much that he doesn't want to go there...
He did live here for a while so it may just be a matter of wanting to come back.

He did throw for 1,945 and 17 TD's his senior season so, as you said, it's is low risk for us.

[AppStateNews]

Per Twitter, Obe fortune has decommited.