March Madness payout to Sunbelt

wncapp78 · Unread post by **wncapp78** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:57 pm

Sunbelt won both men's and women's first round games in the NCAA tourney. How does the conference do revenue sharing? Do we get a payout? How much and how long?

T-Dog · Unread post by **T-Dog** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:30 am

Some of the math is fuzzy and it's not an exact science to outsiders, but let's give it a go.

The pay is divided into units. Each conference gets one unit per tournament game played by a team from that league.

Unit payout goes up each year as the money pool grows and grows. Georgia State's win will get the Sun Belt an additional unit for the next six years. Right now per unit is about $250,000, but it'll grow by a few thousand each year and by the end of the six years, is projected to grow to close to $300,000. Not an exact science.

So Georgia State's win will get the Sun Belt an extra 1.5 to 2 million dollars overall. About 60% of that is distributed to the member institutions. The Sun Belt is an equal-distribution league (The Big 12 is not, which caused the mass exodus in 2010) so each school will get between 81k and 109k per unit total over that time period, or about 13k to 18k per unit each year. So x2 for this year.

FYI, that's using the $250,000 (it might be a few thousand higher this year) per unit figure and 60% member distribution figure, even though it's not exactly that.

The Sun Belt has gotten multiple units in the some of the past six years and the departing schools forfeited their unit payment from that league as part of leaving (every school switching conferences does this) so there should be a few dollars more.

Women's tournament pays jack and shit.

asutrnr81 · Unread post by **asutrnr81** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:05 pm

T-Dog wrote:Some of the math is fuzzy and it's not an exact science to outsiders, but let's give it a go.

The pay is divided into units. Each conference gets one unit per tournament game played by a team from that league.

Unit payout goes up each year as the money pool grows and grows. Georgia State's win will get the Sun Belt an additional unit for the next six years. Right now per unit is about $250,000, but it'll grow by a few thousand each year and by the end of the six years, is projected to grow to close to $300,000. Not an exact science.

So Georgia State's win will get the Sun Belt an extra 1.5 to 2 million dollars overall. About 60% of that is distributed to the member institutions. The Sun Belt is an equal-distribution league (The Big 12 is not, which caused the mass exodus in 2010) so each school will get between 81k and 109k per unit total over that time period, or about 13k to 18k per unit each year. So x2 for this year.

FYI, that's using the $250,000 (it might be a few thousand higher this year) per unit figure and 60% member distribution figure, even though it's not exactly that.

The Sun Belt has gotten multiple units in the some of the past six years and the departing schools forfeited their unit payment from that league as part of leaving (every school switching conferences does this) so there should be a few dollars more.

Women's tournament pays jack and shit.

How do you know this stuff? #Impressed!

AppDawg · Unread post by **AppDawg** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:23 pm

asutrnr81 wrote:
T-Dog wrote: The pay is divided into units.
How do you know this stuff? #Impressed!

GOOGLE: http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015- ... ball-fund/

wncapp78 · Unread post by **wncapp78** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:35 pm

Thanks.

bigdaddyg · Unread post by **bigdaddyg** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:04 am

Read that the ACC stands to pull in about $30M. With every school getting an even share would Virginia Tech (the ACC school App beat this year) garner more in it's share than the entire Sunbelt will receive in entirety? If so, WOW!

asu66 · Unread post by **asu66** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:30 am

bigdaddyg wrote:Read that the ACC stands to pull in about $30M. With every school getting an even share would Virginia Tech (the ACC school App beat this year) garner more in it's share than the entire Sunbelt will receive in entirety? If so, WOW!

That's exactly why KBenson needs to live in Birmingham until he can deliver UAB to the Sunbelt. That immediately improves SunBelt basketball and applies pressure on every other league institution to step it up. The two Georgia teams and the two Louisiana teams are on board. I think Jim Fox and our new AD will have App in the mix. A high tide floats all boats.

bigdaddyg · Unread post by **bigdaddyg** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:43 am

asu66 wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Read that the ACC stands to pull in about $30M. With every school getting an even share would Virginia Tech (the ACC school App beat this year) garner more in it's share than the entire Sunbelt will receive in entirety? If so, WOW!
That's exactly why KBenson needs to live in Birmingham until he can deliver UAB to the Sunbelt. That immediately improves SunBelt basketball and applies pressure on every other league institution to step it up. The two Georgia teams and the two Louisiana teams are on board. I think Jim Fox and our new AD will have App in the mix. A high tide floats all boats.

This stuff really can really make your head swim. While we are all big time football fans and pine away for a major bowl bid, the big moola is in the big dance. I agree, a UAB (even bball only) can bring home the bacon for the Sunbelt. While we are at it how much did App receive when Davidson reached the final 4? Hard to believe the payout even for a first round knockout.

EastHallApp · Unread post by **EastHallApp** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:00 am

asu66 wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Read that the ACC stands to pull in about $30M. With every school getting an even share would Virginia Tech (the ACC school App beat this year) garner more in it's share than the entire Sunbelt will receive in entirety? If so, WOW!
That's exactly why KBenson needs to live in Birmingham until he can deliver UAB to the Sunbelt. That immediately improves SunBelt basketball and applies pressure on every other league institution to step it up. The two Georgia teams and the two Louisiana teams are on board. I think Jim Fox and our new AD will have App in the mix. A high tide floats all boats.

Not saying I disagree, but for perspective, that win was UAB's first NCAA Tournament win in 10 years, and only their third appearance in that span. Not exactly a regular cash cow. Certainly they do have more basketball history than other Sun Belt programs, though.

AppGrad78 · Unread post by **AppGrad78** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:33 am

EastHallApp wrote:
asu66 wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Read that the ACC stands to pull in about $30M. With every school getting an even share would Virginia Tech (the ACC school App beat this year) garner more in it's share than the entire Sunbelt will receive in entirety? If so, WOW!
That's exactly why KBenson needs to live in Birmingham until he can deliver UAB to the Sunbelt. That immediately improves SunBelt basketball and applies pressure on every other league institution to step it up. The two Georgia teams and the two Louisiana teams are on board. I think Jim Fox and our new AD will have App in the mix. A high tide floats all boats.
Not saying I disagree, but for perspective, that win was UAB's first NCAA Tournament win in 10 years, and only their third appearance in that span. Not exactly a regular cash cow. Certainly they do have more basketball history than other Sun Belt programs, though.

Does UAB really have any options? It's not like the Southeastern Conference will come calling. If Conference USA decides to jettison UAB (and current by-laws stipulate that all CUSA teams must field a football program), then I would think it's a cinch that UAB joins the Sun Belt. CUSA officials could amend their own by-laws to accommodate UAB, but the ball is squarely in CUSA's court, not UAB's.

spong · Unread post by **spong** » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:43 am

I'm sure UAB's dream is to end up in the A10 like UNCC did when they got pushed out of CUSA. Dreams rarely come true like our dream of being in the same conference as East Carolina didn't come true.

Here is an article discussing UAB's options (it's kind of old):

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/12/ ... c-southern

They have options. Some of them probably better fits than the Sun Belt. The Sun Belt seems the most desperate. I don't see the commissioner of the Ohio Valley Conference coming out in a press conference during their conference tournament begging for members.

If I was placing a betting line on where they are most likely to end up I would say the Sun Belt is the favorite.

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