What's renovated next?

[Gonzo]

The idea of a "non-revenue sport" is one where it makes no money. UL-Lafayette is clearly making money on softball. They might not be making a profit, but they're making money.

I'm not a Walker College of Business grad either, but ....

[AppGrad78]

To help steer this thread away from the unlikely notion that softball at App State could be a revenue-producing sport (which most people define as making more money than it loses), I believe our next renovation will be to update locker rooms for the volleyball team.

http://www.appstatesports.com/mediaPort ... ID=4141098

[asutrnr81]

But they also have a history of elite level softball and perfect temperatures all season. Two things we won't have for a while.

...and for the latter, until climate change gets kicked in, in a formal way!.....or perhaps never since it is not real!

[APPARJ]

http://www.ragincajuns.com/sports/2012/ ... spx?id=488

I guess those single game tickets are a figment of my imagination.

The idea of a "non-revenue sport" is one where it makes no money. UL-Lafayette is clearly making money on softball. They might not be making a profit, but they're making money. It also spurs sport-specific donations and positive results beyond the field.

Yes App might have disadvantages with the weather, but that doesn't mean App can't. Sounds like a challenge to me.

It's nice that you like and support the softball team so much. But the reality is that out of the over 200 D1 softball programs out there, you listed one program that allegedly profits that happens to be located in warm weather city with over 120,000 people.

I wish App softball well but it'll never make money which shouldn't even be a controversial comment since I bet no softball programs make money. If they do, good for them and well done.

[asu66]

UL-Lafayette averages over 2,000 per home softball game with season tickets between $80 and $135. That plus merch and concessions equals a healthy amount of money. So it can be done. Let's not say it can't be done.

If you treat something as the best thing ever and promote it as such, then eventually someone will listen.

In the physical world that we occupy, it will never be done.

I wish I had a $5 bill for every time Roachel Laney made that comment or one similar to it to me, to other individuals and to groups (both large and small) from our university while he was either our Yosef Club Director or our AD. No need to pick on Roachel here. He's doing this thing across campus and living a comfortable life as a college professor. Just mentioning the fact that "can't never could."

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

But they also have a history of elite level softball and perfect temperatures all season. Two things we won't have for a while.

...and for the latter, until climate change gets kicked in, in a formal way!.....or perhaps never since it is not real!

Any this is based on some research you have done that goes contrary to 97% of scientists. If so can I please read your research. It will be groundbreaking I am sure.

[TheMoody1]

But they also have a history of elite level softball and perfect temperatures all season. Two things we won't have for a while.

...and for the latter, until climate change gets kicked in, in a formal way!.....or perhaps never since it is not real!

Any this is based on some research you have done that goes contrary to 97% of scientists. If so can I please read your research. It will be groundbreaking I am sure.

I know climate change is real. I left Greenville, SC and it was 95 degrees. I just arrived in Boone to a 79 degree temp.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

But they also have a history of elite level softball and perfect temperatures all season. Two things we won't have for a while.

...and for the latter, until climate change gets kicked in, in a formal way!.....or perhaps never since it is not real!

Any this is based on some research you have done that goes contrary to 97% of scientists. If so can I please read your research. It will be groundbreaking I am sure.

I know climate change is real. I left Greenville, SC and it was 95 degrees. I just arrived in Boone to a 79 degree temp.

Environmental Lapse Rate - About 3.5 F for 1000 ft in elevation change. The change from 966 ft to 3333 ft accounts for about 8.5 F decrease in temp. There is also the time of day changes that would have occurred in the drive, and it is very possible this was a different air mass (temp and water content) over the two areas that caused a bigger drop than expected.

[APPARJ]

UL-Lafayette averages over 2,000 per home softball game with season tickets between $80 and $135. That plus merch and concessions equals a healthy amount of money. So it can be done. Let's not say it can't be done.

If you treat something as the best thing ever and promote it as such, then eventually someone will listen.

In the physical world that we occupy, it will never be done.

I wish I had a $5 bill for every time Roachel Laney made that comment or one similar to it to me, to other individuals and to groups (both large and small) from our university while he was either our Yosef Club Director or our AD. No need to pick on Roachel here. He's doing this thing across campus and living a comfortable life as a college professor. Just mentioning the fact that "can't never could."

Was he talking about the softball team not turning a profit? If so, he was right.

[TheMoody1]

But they also have a history of elite level softball and perfect temperatures all season. Two things we won't have for a while.

...and for the latter, until climate change gets kicked in, in a formal way!.....or perhaps never since it is not real!

Any this is based on some research you have done that goes contrary to 97% of scientists. If so can I please read your research. It will be groundbreaking I am sure.

I know climate change is real. I left Greenville, SC and it was 95 degrees. I just arrived in Boone to a 79 degree temp.

Environmental Lapse Rate - About 3.5 F for 1000 ft in elevation change. The change from 966 ft to 3333 ft accounts for about 8.5 F decrease in temp. There is also the time of day changes that would have occurred in the drive, and it is very possible this was a different air mass (temp and water content) over the two areas that caused a bigger drop than expected.

Al Gore could use a guy like you.

[97grad]

The idea of a "non-revenue sport" is one where it makes no money. UL-Lafayette is clearly making money on softball. They might not be making a profit, but they're making money.

I'm not a Walker College of Business grad either, but ....

To be fair, the term is "revenue sport" not "profit sport", though I think it's typically understood to mean the latter.

[97grad]

But they also have a history of elite level softball and perfect temperatures all season. Two things we won't have for a while.

...and for the latter, until climate change gets kicked in, in a formal way!.....or perhaps never since it is not real!

Nice troll.

[asu66]

UL-Lafayette averages over 2,000 per home softball game with season tickets between $80 and $135. That plus merch and concessions equals a healthy amount of money. So it can be done. Let's not say it can't be done.

If you treat something as the best thing ever and promote it as such, then eventually someone will listen.

In the physical world that we occupy, it will never be done.

I wish I had a $5 bill for every time Roachel Laney made that comment or one similar to it to me, to other individuals and to groups (both large and small) from our university while he was either our Yosef Club Director or our AD. No need to pick on Roachel here. He's doing this thing across campus and living a comfortable life as a college professor. Just mentioning the fact that "can't never could."

Was he talking about the softball team not turning a profit? If so, he was right.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, *scratching his head in disbelief,* someone whose opinion differs from mine. This has never happened to me before.

All kidding aside, my point is simply that literally hundreds of "things" once deemed to be implausible (in athletics and in academics) to ever occur at Appalachian, have now been done rather successfully at one time or another or in many cases with great frequency. "Can't" and "never" are words that most Mountaineers don't internalize very graciously.

[EastHallApp]

The idea of a "non-revenue sport" is one where it makes no money. UL-Lafayette is clearly making money on softball. They might not be making a profit, but they're making money.

By that rationale, every sport would be a revenue sport. If one guy all season wanders into a wrestling match free of admission and buys a Coke - presto, wrestling is a revenue sport!

Revenue sports are the ones that make the money to pay for the rest of the athletic department. The term is universally used to refer to football and men's basketball. Whatever examples there are of other sports turning a profit - and I would guess there are relatively few - I'm sure nearly all are women's basketball or baseball. Softball is not close to the top of the list, anywhere, but especially for App now that we have those Sun Belt travel costs.

[NewApp]

UL-Lafayette averages over 2,000 per home softball game with season tickets between $80 and $135. That plus merch and concessions equals a healthy amount of money. So it can be done. Let's not say it can't be done.

If you treat something as the best thing ever and promote it as such, then eventually someone will listen.

In the physical world that we occupy, it will never be done.

I wish I had a $5 bill for every time Roachel Laney made that comment or one similar to it to me, to other individuals and to groups (both large and small) from our university while he was either our Yosef Club Director or our AD. No need to pick on Roachel here. He's doing this thing across campus and living a comfortable life as a college professor. Just mentioning the fact that "can't never could."

Was he talking about the softball team not turning a profit? If so, he was right.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, *scratching his head in disbelief,* someone whose opinion differs from mine. This has never happened to me before.

All kidding aside, my point is simply that literally hundreds of "things" once deemed to be implausible (in athletics and in academics) to ever occur at Appalachian, have now been done rather successfully at one time or another or in many cases with great frequency. "Can't" and "never" are words that most Mountaineers don't internalize very graciously.

Let's see if we can make ASU Basketball turn a profit before we get our hopes up on Women's softball.

[NewApp]

But they also have a history of elite level softball and perfect temperatures all season. Two things we won't have for a while.

...and for the latter, until climate change gets kicked in, in a formal way!.....or perhaps never since it is not real!

Any this is based on some research you have done that goes contrary to 97% of scientists. If so can I please read your research. It will be groundbreaking I am sure.

I know climate change is real. I left Greenville, SC and it was 95 degrees. I just arrived in Boone to a 79 degree temp.

Environmental Lapse Rate - About 3.5 F for 1000 ft in elevation change. The change from 966 ft to 3333 ft accounts for about 8.5 F decrease in temp. There is also the time of day changes that would have occurred in the drive, and it is very possible this was a different air mass (temp and water content) over the two areas that caused a bigger drop than expected.

I think Moody was being facetious.
As to Man Made Climate Change, I believe man is contributing to it, but we should look toward China building dozens of new coal fired power plants per month before we handicap American business further.

[appst89]

This thread is teetering on the brink of the Politics and Current Events folder. Not that that's a bad thing, but many people don't have (or want) access to that folder.

[AppAttack]

1. Track
2. Track
3. Track
4. Move weight room to bottom floor. I still can't believe we didn't do that from the start.

[firemoose]

1. Track
2. Track
3. Track
4. Move weight room to bottom floor. I still can't believe we didn't do that from the start.

It's wasn't as if the PTB's weren't told many times by MANY people that you don't put a weight room, especially one set up for Olympic lifting, anywhere but a bottom floor. But some people didn't listen.

[moonshine]

Maybe we can ask our new Associate AD! Congrats to Brittney Whiteside. Looks like Gillin is starting to put his team together.

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =210163995

"In her role, Whiteside will serve as a member of the athletics department’s executive team and be the sport administrator for various Appalachian State sports. She will also develop and oversee a number of student-athlete initiatives, work directly with the department’s senior staff on women’s sports initiatives, cost of attendance and financial aid, develop enhanced strategies at Kidd Brewer Stadium, work as part of a team to assess facility needs and participate in key fundraising activities. She will also work closely with Gillin on all budget-related items and key department hiring decisions.

She comes to Appalachian State from the University of Missouri, where she served as director of external engagement since October 2014 with a primary focus on overseeing and coordinating all premium seating at Mizzou’s athletics facilities. She also assisted with the development of community outreach programs and created new customer service initiatives to enhance gameday experiences during her time at Missouri.

Whiteside worked directly with Gillin, who previously served as Missouri’s deputy athletics director, from her arrival at Mizzou last October until Gillin’s departure to become Appalachian State’s A.D. in April."