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There will always be limits on how much we can pay. Our limits will always be far below the limits of some if not all of the P5 programs. Our only option is to pay as much as we reasonably can and hope retain our talent as long as possible. We lost Mack Brown, Sparky Woods and numerous assistants over the years. Scott himself once already. Nothing short of a miracle will stop it from occurring again if and when big money comes calling. Such is life.
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Losing great coaches to bigger schools unfortunately goes with the territory. Pony up, keep them as long as you can so you can attract the next up and coming coaching star.
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I'm super happy for Scott AND his family. At the end of the day, none of us know what Scott will do if/when offered a P5 job. I do believe it will be a FAMILY decision not just a $$$ decision. I tend to think they love where they are.
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I agree, Steve. Scott won't know exactly what he'll do until he's put into that situation. He's making the most he's ever made and happy as can be. He's likely unable to fathom a million dollar contract and a list of nice perks---an executive residence, a sports car, a signature golf club membership, a life insurance policy, a fully-funded annuity or 401K plan, TV Show and Camp revenue and more.YesAppCan wrote:I'm super happy for Scott AND his family. At the end of the day, none of us know what Scott will do if/when offered a P5 job. I do believe it will be a FAMILY decision not just a $$$ decision. I tend to think they love where they are.
Until that temptation comes his way--we have no worries. When it does, he'll have to decide if he wants to sell his soul to the devil and completely change his way of living. Not every young coach wants someone else calling the shots in their lives. It could work out in our favor with a few concessions.
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He'll also have to decide if he wants to stay with a winner that he played for, was OC for, won championships with, and built into what it is (for a measly $625,000/yr by 2020) or start over rebuilding a dumpster fire program.asu66 wrote:I agree, Steve. Scott won't know exactly what he'll do until he's put into that situation. He's making the most he's ever made and happy as can be. He's likely unable to fathom a million dollar contract and a list of nice perks---an executive residence, a sports car, a signature golf club membership, a life insurance policy, a fully-funded annuity or 401K plan, TV Show and Camp revenue and more.YesAppCan wrote:I'm super happy for Scott AND his family. At the end of the day, none of us know what Scott will do if/when offered a P5 job. I do believe it will be a FAMILY decision not just a $$$ decision. I tend to think they love where they are.
Until that temptation comes his way--we have no worries. When it does, he'll have to decide if he wants to sell his soul to the devil and completely change his way of living. Not every young coach wants someone else calling the shots in their lives. It could work out in our favor with a few concessions.
Even if he does go to a struggling team one day, let's call them Virshminia, he's gonna have to build them up, then IF he does well, likely get plucked away by an even bigger dumpster fire.
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All Scott needs to do is place a call to Sparky Woods and learn about going from Appalachian to the big bright lights and then getting fired posthaste. Sparky's career flamed out early and he never completely recovered. He ended up getting fired at *gulp* VMI. Ouch!
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lolYosef10 wrote:I don't think Scott would leave App for UVA or Maryland at this time, I do think only a P5 offer would get Scott to leave but not bottom tier ACC schools. As for his salary it basically starts at $525k and increases $25k each year. Good move by the BOT but at some point we gotta shell out more than this.AppFan11 wrote:Let all be clear that if Virginia or Maryland or any other P5 comes calling with $2-3 mil per year Scott will be gone as well as some of our other coaches too. We have tried to do what we can with getting Scott a new deal. Everything is in the details with the new contract. And as of now, we know little. If as reported his base is $400k plus a retention bonus of $125k that will be adequate for now (in the Belt) but I would hope there would be a more robust incentive package than his previous contract. The question is does his base in 2016 go to $425K or does he get the retention bonus every year which would then be $550K? Look overall I'm glad that we're making an attempt to keep Scott.... but even at that level that only puts him fourth in our conference.
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This has nothing to do with being a money-grubbing slug... The reality is if any of us or most us were offered five or six times what we were making.... well we know what the answer would be. It has to do with the providing for your family and challenging yourself at the highest level. I'm not saying he will jump at any P5 offer but there are plenty he will and should.
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Exactly. It would obviously suck to lose him but we can't blame him. Any one brave enough to join the coaching field is super competitive and wants to be the best. If Satterfield gets a good offer from a BCS school he's not gonna turn it down. He's going to want to challenge himself at as high of a level as possible. If App has a string of really good seasons we're probably gonna lose him. He's still young, passionate and has a reputation as a really good recruiter. That's what rebuilding schools look for. If we have a few 9-3/11-1 seasons in a row he's probably gonna get an offer he won't be able to turn down. As a fan of App, it sucks. But Scott loves this school and has already done so much for us and he's just getting started, no matter what happens in his career we all should support him.AppFan11 wrote:This has nothing to do with being a mony-grubbing slug... The reality is if any of us or most us were offered five or six times what we were making.... well we know what the answer would be. It has to do withe providing for your family challenging yourself at the highest level. I'm not saying he will jump at any P5 offer but there are plenty he will and should.
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Not really sure what's lol about that. I don't think he would leave his alma mater that he's in the process of building up to a pretty high level if UVA or Maryland came calling this year. Seems like a pretty reasonable thought.diehardapp18 wrote:lolYosef10 wrote:I don't think Scott would leave App for UVA or Maryland at this time, I do think only a P5 offer would get Scott to leave but not bottom tier ACC schools. As for his salary it basically starts at $525k and increases $25k each year. Good move by the BOT but at some point we gotta shell out more than this.AppFan11 wrote:Let all be clear that if Virginia or Maryland or any other P5 comes calling with $2-3 mil per year Scott will be gone as well as some of our other coaches too. We have tried to do what we can with getting Scott a new deal. Everything is in the details with the new contract. And as of now, we know little. If as reported his base is $400k plus a retention bonus of $125k that will be adequate for now (in the Belt) but I would hope there would be a more robust incentive package than his previous contract. The question is does his base in 2016 go to $425K or does he get the retention bonus every year which would then be $550K? Look overall I'm glad that we're making an attempt to keep Scott.... but even at that level that only puts him fourth in our conference.
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asu66 wrote:I agree, Steve. Scott won't know exactly what he'll do until he's put into that situation. He's making the most he's ever made and happy as can be. He's likely unable to fathom a million dollar contract and a list of nice perks---an executive residence, a sports car, a signature golf club membership, a life insurance policy, a fully-funded annuity or 401K plan, TV Show and Camp revenue and more.YesAppCan wrote:I'm super happy for Scott AND his family. At the end of the day, none of us know what Scott will do if/when offered a P5 job. I do believe it will be a FAMILY decision not just a $$$ decision. I tend to think they love where they are.
Until that temptation comes his way--we have no worries. When it does, he'll have to decide if he wants to sell his soul to the devil and completely change his way of living. Not every young coach wants someone else calling the shots in their lives. It could work out in our favor with a few concessions.

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I think it's reasonable enough that it's debatable. UVa is a pretty decent job - not really a "destination" job, but good enough that the right coach could either carve out a niche winning 8-9 a year for 15 years (a la George Welsh), or maybe parlay it into a bigger gig.Yosef10 wrote:Not really sure what's lol about that. I don't think he would leave his alma mater that he's in the process of building up to a pretty high level if UVA or Maryland came calling this year. Seems like a pretty reasonable thought.diehardapp18 wrote:lolYosef10 wrote:I don't think Scott would leave App for UVA or Maryland at this time, I do think only a P5 offer would get Scott to leave but not bottom tier ACC schools. As for his salary it basically starts at $525k and increases $25k each year. Good move by the BOT but at some point we gotta shell out more than this.AppFan11 wrote:Let all be clear that if Virginia or Maryland or any other P5 comes calling with $2-3 mil per year Scott will be gone as well as some of our other coaches too. We have tried to do what we can with getting Scott a new deal. Everything is in the details with the new contract. And as of now, we know little. If as reported his base is $400k plus a retention bonus of $125k that will be adequate for now (in the Belt) but I would hope there would be a more robust incentive package than his previous contract. The question is does his base in 2016 go to $425K or does he get the retention bonus every year which would then be $550K? Look overall I'm glad that we're making an attempt to keep Scott.... but even at that level that only puts him fourth in our conference.
Maryland, on the other hand, could be a career killer.
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I don't think either are particularly good choices for him going forward. In general, I think coaches are best if they stay in a geographic area so they can exploit contacts for recruiting. Virginia and Maryland have some overlap with where we recruit, but they go a lot further north, too. I'd say when the South Carolina job opens up Satt might be a good fit there. I could also easily see him saying that he isn't going anywhere until his kids go to college.

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EastHallApp wrote:asu66 wrote:I agree, Steve. Scott won't know exactly what he'll do until he's put into that situation. He's making the most he's ever made and happy as can be. He's likely unable to fathom a million dollar contract and a list of nice perks---an executive residence, a sports car, a signature golf club membership, a life insurance policy, a fully-funded annuity or 401K plan, TV Show and Camp revenue and more.YesAppCan wrote:I'm super happy for Scott AND his family. At the end of the day, none of us know what Scott will do if/when offered a P5 job. I do believe it will be a FAMILY decision not just a $$$ decision. I tend to think they love where they are.
Until that temptation comes his way--we have no worries. When it does, he'll have to decide if he wants to sell his soul to the devil and completely change his way of living. Not every young coach wants someone else calling the shots in their lives. It could work out in our favor with a few concessions.
Yes, I know that statement might appear to you to be over the top. I made an earlier reference to one of our former HC's experience at a major university in another state. The interference from well-heeled alumni; the constant micro-management from the president's office; the brazen gifts of cars, cash, women, booze, etc. offered to and accepted by players over which he could gain little control; the unreasonable expectations for winning every game; the threats of bodily harm...and I could go on. And when he stood up to all this garbage--he was summarily fired.
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Getting ahead of ourselves? We are way behind the curve on coach salaries. This isn't just about Satterfield, this is about the future of the football program.appdaze wrote:Before we start talking about the millions needed to keep him at App and why he isn't the top paid coach in our league how about we sit back and see if he can keep the winning going. I'm loving our current success but I would like to see two additional years of success in the sunbelt before I would think about putting him near that million dollar mark. Lets not get ahead of ourselves on this process.