Boone Legal

[bigdaddyg]

Sorry Guys, imp. equip does affect insurance in some cases, hate to spoil it

Get your legal advice from someone licensed to give it.

I'll bet any NC lawyer would tell you that a conviction for "Improper equipment" is a non-moving violation.

Your insurance agent would likely tell you you'll take no insurance hit for a non-moving violation.

It's not legal advice, just my $0.02 worth.

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I just talked to two attorneys at a civic club meeting. They both said improper equipment violations have no effect on drivers license points nor insurance costs.

Several members of my family (myself included) have gone the expensive attorney route and gone it alone. Each time the attorney "plead" improper equipment and each time the same result. Reduced with no insurance or license points. That has always killed me. Apparently in the state of NC it is ok to drive with a jacked up speedometer that doesn't have to be fixed. One can drive with faulty equipment which caused the driver to exceed a safe speed limit. That same driver does not have to "fix" the faulty equipment either.

My wife got a ticket last year. We went to court, had it immediately dropped to 9 over, received a PFJ and paid the $120 or so fine and costs. Of course she can't get another ticket in the next couple of years but we considered the $300-$400 attorney costs worth it for the same result. If she were a chronic speeder with multiple infractions we might have gone the lawyer route. IMO it isn't worth it the first time around.

[App91]

Sorry Guys, imp. equip does affect insurance in some cases, hate to spoil it

Get your legal advice from someone licensed to give it.

I'll bet any NC lawyer would tell you that a conviction for "Improper equipment" is a non-moving violation.

Your insurance agent would likely tell you you'll take no insurance hit for a non-moving violation.

It's not legal advice, just my $0.02 worth.

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I just talked to two attorneys at a civic club meeting. They both said improper equipment violations have no effect on drivers license points nor insurance costs.

Let me run you a quote and I will show you. Attorneys are not actuaries. They tend to think they know it all, but they dont usually.

[97grad]

Just call the DA's office and ask them what the options are for reductions. It'll save money for the attorney fees because you can handle everything yourself. If it's the first ticket he can go to driving school and get it reduced to an improper equipment ticket that doesn't effect insurance or anything. He could also get it reduced to a lesser speed then what's on the ticket so that it doesn't effect anything.

P.S. I work there, you don't need an attorney!

Sorry Guys, imp. equip does affect insurance in some cases, hate to spoil it

No, it really doesn't. I've went through this in the past and just went through it again recently.

[NewApp]

Sorry Guys, imp. equip does affect insurance in some cases, hate to spoil it

Get your legal advice from someone licensed to give it.

I'll bet any NC lawyer would tell you that a conviction for "Improper equipment" is a non-moving violation.

Your insurance agent would likely tell you you'll take no insurance hit for a non-moving violation.

It's not legal advice, just my $0.02 worth.

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I just talked to two attorneys at a civic club meeting. They both said improper equipment violations have no effect on drivers license points nor insurance costs.

Several members of my family (myself included) have gone the expensive attorney route and gone it alone. Each time the attorney "plead" improper equipment and each time the same result. Reduced with no insurance or license points. That has always killed me. Apparently in the state of NC it is ok to drive with a jacked up speedometer that doesn't have to be fixed. One can drive with faulty equipment which caused the driver to exceed a safe speed limit. That same driver does not have to "fix" the faulty equipment either.

My wife got a ticket last year. We went to court, had it immediately dropped to 9 over, received a PFJ and paid the $120 or so fine and costs. Of course she can't get another ticket in the next couple of years but we considered the $300-$400 attorney costs worth it for the same result. If she were a chronic speeder with multiple infractions we might have gone the lawyer route. IMO it isn't worth it the first time around.

I just last week received a speeding ticket. The fine was $50 and the court cost was $190. The attorney fee was $120 which will be reimbursed by AAA. I will get an Improper Equipment charge which will carry no DL points nor insurance rate increase. The officer still gets credit for a conviction and the court will get the $240.

[Capt. Ed]

What a scam

[NewApp]

Sorry Guys, imp. equip does affect insurance in some cases, hate to spoil it

Get your legal advice from someone licensed to give it.

I'll bet any NC lawyer would tell you that a conviction for "Improper equipment" is a non-moving violation.

Your insurance agent would likely tell you you'll take no insurance hit for a non-moving violation.

It's not legal advice, just my $0.02 worth.

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I just talked to two attorneys at a civic club meeting. They both said improper equipment violations have no effect on drivers license points nor insurance costs.

Let me run you a quote and I will show you. Attorneys are not actuaries. They tend to think they know it all, but they dont usually.

These two attorneys have handled numerous cases like this. They are both criminal defense attorneys. On top of that I talked personally with my insurance agent.

[NewApp]

What a scam

What it boils down to is that I shouldn't have been speeding in the first place. Speed kills. I'll certainly make sure I won't be speeding on that stretch again. I thought it was a 45 mph zone but it was a 35 mph zone.

[CVAPP]

I find it naive to think there are no insurance rating consequences to being "convicted" of operating a motor vehicle with improper/faulty equipment. Just as the resident insurance professional stated, you enter a pool of insureds that has that strike against them compared to those that don't.

It may be like a first ticket forgiveness program for most insurance companies, but come your second infraction I would be a little irate if my carrier didn't charge this pool as though it was their second, or at 1.5 speeding tickets.

[NewApp]

I find it naive to think there are no insurance rating consequences to being "convicted" of operating a motor vehicle with improper/faulty equipment. Just as the resident insurance professional stated, you enter a pool of insureds that has that strike against them compared to those that don't.

It may be like a first ticket forgiveness program for most insurance companies, but come your second infraction I would be a little irate if my carrier didn't charge this pool as though it was their second, or at 1.5 speeding tickets.

I just stated that I talked to my insurance agent, two lawyers at my Kiwanis meeting and the lawyer who will be representing me in my absence. They all said the same thing, no points, no insurance rate increase.

The improper equipment violation is just a technicality. It doesn't actually mean my speedometer was off by 15 mph.

[CVAPP]

I find it naive to think there are no insurance rating consequences to being "convicted" of operating a motor vehicle with improper/faulty equipment. Just as the resident insurance professional stated, you enter a pool of insureds that has that strike against them compared to those that don't.

It may be like a first ticket forgiveness program for most insurance companies, but come your second infraction I would be a little irate if my carrier didn't charge this pool as though it was their second, or at 1.5 speeding tickets.

I just stated that I talked to my insurance agent, two lawyers at my Kiwanis meeting and the lawyer who will be representing me in my absence. They all said the same thing, no points, no insurance rate increase.

The improper equipment violation is just a technicality. It doesn't actually mean my speedometer was off by 15 mph.

NewApp, my comment that was in no way specifically directed at you, but in time you will be an older App, and no doubt a little wiser than to believe everything you might hear. Until then, peace out and don't forget your critical thinking skills.

[NewApp]

I find it naive to think there are no insurance rating consequences to being "convicted" of operating a motor vehicle with improper/faulty equipment. Just as the resident insurance professional stated, you enter a pool of insureds that has that strike against them compared to those that don't.

It may be like a first ticket forgiveness program for most insurance companies, but come your second infraction I would be a little irate if my carrier didn't charge this pool as though it was their second, or at 1.5 speeding tickets.

I just stated that I talked to my insurance agent, two lawyers at my Kiwanis meeting and the lawyer who will be representing me in my absence. They all said the same thing, no points, no insurance rate increase.

The improper equipment violation is just a technicality. It doesn't actually mean my speedometer was off by 15 mph.

NewApp, my comment that was in no way specifically directed at you, but in time you will be an older App, and no doubt a little wiser than to believe everything you might hear. Until then, peace out and don't forget your critical thinking skills.

I'm already older. I speak from experience as I have had several speeding tickets over the last twenty years or so and always got a lawyer and received improper equipment violations. My rates have never gone up due to a ticket and I've never in my life had points on my Driver's license. The last time my rates went up due to violations of any kind was when my son got tickets when he was on my insurance policy and that has been over 29 years ago.

[NewApp]

http://www.swlawnc.com/what-is-improper ... in-nc.html

See this link everybody.

[Apptiger]

I would also recommend Speed if you need an attorney. Probably would depend on the level of infraction and the willingness of the DA's office to lower it. Also probably would help to have completed the driving school before the court date.

Warning parenting advice ahead (always given sincerely, even if unsolicited lol) . I would let him know the options, the costs and let him handle it. I would also let him handle all the costs associated. Either directly or if he can't on a strict loan basis. It will get him some experience with real life and help him mature a little faster.

[NewApp]

Sorry Guys, imp. equip does affect insurance in some cases, hate to spoil it

Get your legal advice from someone licensed to give it.

I'll bet any NC lawyer would tell you that a conviction for "Improper equipment" is a non-moving violation.

Your insurance agent would likely tell you you'll take no insurance hit for a non-moving violation.

It's not legal advice, just my $0.02 worth.

~

I just talked to two attorneys at a civic club meeting. They both said improper equipment violations have no effect on drivers license points nor insurance costs.

Several members of my family (myself included) have gone the expensive attorney route and gone it alone. Each time the attorney "plead" improper equipment and each time the same result. Reduced with no insurance or license points. That has always killed me. Apparently in the state of NC it is ok to drive with a jacked up speedometer that doesn't have to be fixed. One can drive with faulty equipment which caused the driver to exceed a safe speed limit. That same driver does not have to "fix" the faulty equipment either.

My wife got a ticket last year. We went to court, had it immediately dropped to 9 over, received a PFJ and paid the $120 or so fine and costs. Of course she can't get another ticket in the next couple of years but we considered the $300-$400 attorney costs worth it for the same result. If she were a chronic speeder with multiple infractions we might have gone the lawyer route. IMO it isn't worth it the first time around.

Who pays an attorney 3 or 4 hundred bucks for handling a traffic ticket? This is the first one that I've paid over a C note for.