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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Fri May 31, 2013 12:34 pm

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Maddog1956 wrote:I didn't say they ate it every year, or would now (really I haven't keep up with either team lately), just that we use to have good game. But some ppl can't remember past 2005, so I thought I'd remind them.

Pretty much all the 70's APP and VMI were neck and neck, but they pulled out two conference titles (I don't think we ever pulled out a Football title with them in the Socon). ETSU pretty much owned the 90's in basketball (with Chatt).
You talk about reminding people who can't remember past 2005 and then say you don't think we won a SoCon title with VMI in the conference? VMI was in the SoCon until 2003, we won the conference in 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995 and 1999 before they left.

The only time App and VMI were competitive at all was in the 70's as App was still transitioning into Division I and we were 2-1 against them in the 70's. We won 17 of our last 18 games against VMI and most of them were not competitive. VMI left the SoCon because they could not compete. It really does not do justice to App athletics to imply they were even close to being an equal, then or now.

ETSU is at least worth discussing because of their basketball program and recent uptick in baseball. I'd love to continue playing them regularly in baseball and basketball but we do not belong on the same football field as either ETSU or VMI. That may come off as arrogant but it is the truth. VMI is a fine institution and I respect them in that regard but as an athletic department, we are on an entirely different level.
The only time App and VMI were competitive at all was in the 70's as App was still transitioning into Division I and we were 2-1 against them in the 70's

So you agree with me, there was a time that both teams ate our lunch. Thanks

Now you can keep bringing it up on every thread, but I'm letting go on this one. Play among yourself.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 31, 2013 12:35 pm

Maddog1956 wrote:
asumike83 wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:They didn't eat our lunch, though. That was Western doings.

Couldn't resist.
Well actually they did a few years in both football and basketball. (And remember the SoCon was much beefier then as well)


Football
Appalachian State 12 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012
VMI 7 1951, 1957, 1959, 1960, 1962, 1974, 1977

Basketball
Appalachian State 2 1979, 2000
East Tennessee State 6 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 2003, 2004
VMI 3 1964, 1976, 1977

Kind of like WCU has owned us in baseball.

Western Carolina 9 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1997, 2003
Appalachian State 1 1984

You best let it go, you're starting to look a little silly!
Neither of those teams "ate our lunch", particularly in football. 5 of those 7 years you list for VMI came before App was in the SoCon. Can't eat our lunch if we aren't eating in the same restaurant. Head to head records:

Football
VMI: 20-4-2
ETSU: 32-13-1

Basketball
VMI: 37-28
ETSU: 49-76

Baseball
VMI: 66-30
ETSU: 74-55

With the exception of ETSU basketball, who was a powerful mid-major program in their heyday, we got the better of both schools in every major sport. ETSU has had a very good basketball history and have at least been competitive with us historically in baseball but VMI is not our athletic peer in any sense and they are much worse now than they were back then.
I didn't say they ate it every year, or would now (really I haven't keep up with either team lately), just that we use to have good game. But some ppl can't remember past 2005, so I thought I'd remind them.

Pretty much all the 70's APP and VMI were neck and neck, but they pulled out two conference titles (I don't think we ever pulled out a Football title with them in the Socon). ETSU pretty much owned the 90's in basketball (with Chatt).
So, they beat us some years and we beat them other years...with App always winning more than they lost (except with ETSU basketball). How does that equate to "eating our lunch?" You have suggested that AppinVA is "starting to look a bit silly." Using the phrase, "eating our lunch" without being able to substantiate it seems a bit silly. You should consider using the term, "competitive," or ,"they beat us a few times." It's much more accurate, and not silly in the least.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 31, 2013 12:37 pm

Maddog1956 wrote:
asumike83 wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:I didn't say they ate it every year, or would now (really I haven't keep up with either team lately), just that we use to have good game. But some ppl can't remember past 2005, so I thought I'd remind them.

Pretty much all the 70's APP and VMI were neck and neck, but they pulled out two conference titles (I don't think we ever pulled out a Football title with them in the Socon). ETSU pretty much owned the 90's in basketball (with Chatt).
You talk about reminding people who can't remember past 2005 and then say you don't think we won a SoCon title with VMI in the conference? VMI was in the SoCon until 2003, we won the conference in 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995 and 1999 before they left.

The only time App and VMI were competitive at all was in the 70's as App was still transitioning into Division I and we were 2-1 against them in the 70's. We won 17 of our last 18 games against VMI and most of them were not competitive. VMI left the SoCon because they could not compete. It really does not do justice to App athletics to imply they were even close to being an equal, then or now.

ETSU is at least worth discussing because of their basketball program and recent uptick in baseball. I'd love to continue playing them regularly in baseball and basketball but we do not belong on the same football field as either ETSU or VMI. That may come off as arrogant but it is the truth. VMI is a fine institution and I respect them in that regard but as an athletic department, we are on an entirely different level.
The only time App and VMI were competitive at all was in the 70's as App was still transitioning into Division I and we were 2-1 against them in the 70's

So you agree with me, there was a time that both teams ate our lunch. Thanks :lol: That's a little weak.

Now you can keep bringing it up on every thread, but I'm letting go on this one. Play among yourself.
asumike83 didn't bring it up in this thread. Reading is fundamental.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri May 31, 2013 12:57 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:
asumike83 wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:They didn't eat our lunch, though. That was Western doings.

Couldn't resist.
Well actually they did a few years in both football and basketball. (And remember the SoCon was much beefier then as well)


Football
Appalachian State 12 1986, 1987, 1991, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012
VMI 7 1951, 1957, 1959, 1960, 1962, 1974, 1977

Basketball
Appalachian State 2 1979, 2000
East Tennessee State 6 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 2003, 2004
VMI 3 1964, 1976, 1977

Kind of like WCU has owned us in baseball.

Western Carolina 9 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1997, 2003
Appalachian State 1 1984

You best let it go, you're starting to look a little silly!
Neither of those teams "ate our lunch", particularly in football. 5 of those 7 years you list for VMI came before App was in the SoCon. Can't eat our lunch if we aren't eating in the same restaurant. Head to head records:

Football
VMI: 20-4-2
ETSU: 32-13-1

Basketball
VMI: 37-28
ETSU: 49-76

Baseball
VMI: 66-30
ETSU: 74-55

With the exception of ETSU basketball, who was a powerful mid-major program in their heyday, we got the better of both schools in every major sport. ETSU has had a very good basketball history and have at least been competitive with us historically in baseball but VMI is not our athletic peer in any sense and they are much worse now than they were back then.
I didn't say they ate it every year, or would now (really I haven't keep up with either team lately), just that we use to have good game. But some ppl can't remember past 2005, so I thought I'd remind them.

Pretty much all the 70's APP and VMI were neck and neck, but they pulled out two conference titles (I don't think we ever pulled out a Football title with them in the Socon). ETSU pretty much owned the 90's in basketball (with Chatt).
So, they beat us some years and we beat them other years...with App always winning more than they lost (except with ETSU basketball). How does that equate to "eating our lunch?" You have suggested that AppinVA is "starting to look a bit silly." Using the phrase, "eating our lunch" without being able to substantiate it seems a bit silly. You should consider using the term, "competitive," or ,"they beat us a few times." It's much more accurate, and not silly in the least.
With the exception of ET men's basketball (we told mama to fix our PB&J with Strawberry jam, because that's how they like it), the difference between App and the rest of those lunch eaters is that our fans talk about our bad seasons, while their fans talk about their good seasons.

Sorry, but you have the market cornered on silly.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by Appsolutely » Fri May 31, 2013 1:04 pm

hapapp wrote:http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle. ... EM_ID=4000

As expected, VMI, ETSU, and Mercer were extended invites today.
So, the SC adds three, but Iamamoron still hasn't grown a pair. Is that about it?
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by asumike83 » Fri May 31, 2013 1:07 pm

Maddog1956 wrote: The only time App and VMI were competitive at all was in the 70's as App was still transitioning into Division I and we were 2-1 against them in the 70's

So you agree with me, there was a time that both teams ate our lunch. Thanks

Now you can keep bringing it up on every thread, but I'm letting go on this one. Play among yourself.
I don't view VMI losing 2 of 3 by a combined score of 84-49 as eating our lunch. We can just agree to disagree.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri May 31, 2013 1:13 pm

Another topic becoming unreadable because too few know how to trim the quotes :(

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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri May 31, 2013 1:33 pm

CVAPP wrote:Another topic becoming unreadable because too few know how to trim the quotes :(
I'm not sure I follow you. :lol:
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri May 31, 2013 1:45 pm

AppinVA wrote: I'm not sure I follow you. :lol:
If I take this out

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[quote="CVAPP"]Another topic becoming unreadable because too few  know how to trim the quotes  :([/quote]
I can quote you without re-quoting myself. ;)

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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 31, 2013 1:59 pm

AppinVA wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:So, they beat us some years and we beat them other years...with App always winning more than they lost (except with ETSU basketball). How does that equate to "eating our lunch?" You have suggested that AppinVA is "starting to look a bit silly." Using the phrase, "eating our lunch" without being able to substantiate it seems a bit silly. You should consider using the term, "competitive," or ,"they beat us a few times." It's much more accurate, and not silly in the least.
With the exception of ET men's basketball (we told mama to fix our PB&J with Strawberry jam, because that's how they like it), the difference between App and the rest of those lunch eaters is that our fans talk about our bad seasons, while their fans talk about their good seasons.

Sorry, but you have the market cornered on silly.
Surely, you didn't intend to respond to my post. If you did, read it again, I had your back.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 31, 2013 2:01 pm

CVAPP wrote:Another topic becoming unreadable because too few know how to trim the quotes :(
This is the only board I post on that quotes up to 5 previous posts. Perhaps that needs to change without me having to edit all of the posts. Typically, I'm only trying to reply to one post.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri May 31, 2013 2:04 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:So, they beat us some years and we beat them other years...with App always winning more than they lost (except with ETSU basketball). How does that equate to "eating our lunch?" You have suggested that AppinVA is "starting to look a bit silly." Using the phrase, "eating our lunch" without being able to substantiate it seems a bit silly. You should consider using the term, "competitive," or ,"they beat us a few times." It's much more accurate, and not silly in the least.
With the exception of ET men's basketball (we told mama to fix our PB&J with Strawberry jam, because that's how they like it), the difference between App and the rest of those lunch eaters is that our fans talk about our bad seasons, while their fans talk about their good seasons.

Sorry, but you have the market cornered on silly.
Surely, you didn't intend to respond to my post. If you did, read it again, I had your back.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri May 31, 2013 2:16 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote: This is the only board I post on that quotes up to 5 previous posts. Perhaps that needs to change without me having to edit all of the posts. Typically, I'm only trying to reply to one post.
I have started a thread in which I hope to demonstrate how to trim and in some instance surgically remove unwanted content when quoting a post that is nested in a multi-quote post. If you and others interested would be so kind as to reply on this thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2440

it will give me some material to work with. The only other alternative is scrape quotes from other threads and I don't want to offend anyone by doing that.

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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 31, 2013 3:03 pm

AppinVA wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:So, they beat us some years and we beat them other years...with App always winning more than they lost (except with ETSU basketball). How does that equate to "eating our lunch?" You have suggested that AppinVA is "starting to look a bit silly." Using the phrase, "eating our lunch" without being able to substantiate it seems a bit silly. You should consider using the term, "competitive," or ,"they beat us a few times." It's much more accurate, and not silly in the least.
With the exception of ET men's basketball (we told mama to fix our PB&J with Strawberry jam, because that's how they like it), the difference between App and the rest of those lunch eaters is that our fans talk about our bad seasons, while their fans talk about their good seasons.

Sorry, but you have the market cornered on silly.
Surely, you didn't intend to respond to my post. If you did, read it again, I had your back.
No. I hit the wrong post reply. I realize we're on the same side.
It's cool...just making sure.
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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 31, 2013 3:05 pm

CVAPP wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote: This is the only board I post on that quotes up to 5 previous posts. Perhaps that needs to change without me having to edit all of the posts. Typically, I'm only trying to reply to one post.
I have started a thread in which I hope to demonstrate how to trim and in some instance surgically remove unwanted content when quoting a post that is nested in a multi-quote post. If you and others interested would be so kind as to reply on this thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2440

it will give me some material to work with. The only other alternative is scrape quotes from other threads and I don't want to offend anyone by doing that.
I know how to do it, I've done it before. I would just prefer that this site be changed to act like virtually every other MB I've been to and only quote the post you're replying to. That's the easiest way to fix it.
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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by CVAPP » Fri May 31, 2013 3:22 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote: I know how to do it, I've done it before. I would just prefer that this site be changed to act like virtually every other MB I've been to and only quote the post you're replying to. That's the easiest way to fix it.
I certainly don't run this website but my experience with others leads me to believe a feature that prunes quotes like that is probably not as simple of a feature as you might think. If this is true then as unfortunate as it may be, the simplest solution is to trim quotes manually.

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Re: SoCon adds Three

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:51 pm

CVAPP wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote: I know how to do it, I've done it before. I would just prefer that this site be changed to act like virtually every other MB I've been to and only quote the post you're replying to. That's the easiest way to fix it.
I certainly don't run this website but my experience with others leads me to believe a feature that prunes quotes like that is probably not as simple of a feature as you might think. If this is true then as unfortunate as it may be, the simplest solution is to trim quotes manually.
I have no idea if it's easy, I just assume it is as every other board I post on does trim the posts.

It seems to me that you're looking for a solution to no problem. I've never once given it a thought until you brought it up here and created a separate thread for it. I don't see this being nearly as big a problem as you believe it to be, so unless the feature is implemented, I doubt I'll be trimming quotes manually.
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