Here are the EMAILS Letters

[JTApps1]

IS THAT ALL THEY HAVE? Seriously, one email from Cobb to Coach Moore and one memo from Cobb to Peacock. No written or typed response from the Coach whatsoever, and the last document of record dated December 31st of last year...for one of the most important athletics decisions in University history???

First thoughts:
The released documents add weight to the notion that Cobb and Peacock have, for at least a year, wanted to oust Coach Moore. They tell us nothing, unfiltered, though, about what the Coach thought of their plans. There is nothing directly from the Coach indicating that he agreed to anything.

Cobb comes off as a benevolent guy who is concerned that the job of Head Coach is taking its toll on Jerry Moore's health. I wonder if the same impression would be conveyed without all the redactions?

The passage "The 2012 football season is Coach Moore’s last season as head coach. He will retire immediately following the final game of the 2012 season. This would be communicated immediately to him and the staff and announced publicly in the spring although it is assumed that it will be public before then." doesn't jibe with Peacock's Brad Adcock anecdote. Neither does it make sense with keeping the staff, especially Satterfield, and the fanbase in the dark for so long.

Cobb himself refutes the recruiting argument advanced by some as a reason to force Coach Moore to step down so soon after the Illinois State game and not give the Coach a "farewell season": "One, effective recruiting is an inexact science by nature, Two, over the last several years, kids being recruited by us have not come in with the expectation to play for Coach their entire college careers. Three, because of the unstable nature of coaching, no kid being recruited by any staff in America can be honestly told that they will play for that coach or staff for his entire career. In the SoCon alone, every team but Wofford and us changed head coaches in the past five years or, more accurately, during the college life of kids in the 2011 graduating class."

Are you Lil Mo?

Time to move on man.

[ASUPATCH]

Sonsofyosef, Coach could release a statement saying he knew it was his last year and it still wouldnt be enough for you. He is gone, its over, Cobb and Peacock didnt lie. Support App and get over it.

[ASUMountaineer]

IS THAT ALL THEY HAVE? Seriously, one email from Cobb to Coach Moore and one memo from Cobb to Peacock. No written or typed response from the Coach whatsoever, and the last document of record dated December 31st of last year...for one of the most important athletics decisions in University history???

First thoughts:
The released documents add weight to the notion that Cobb and Peacock have, for at least a year, wanted to oust Coach Moore. They tell us nothing, unfiltered, though, about what the Coach thought of their plans. There is nothing directly from the Coach indicating that he agreed to anything.

Cobb comes off as a benevolent guy who is concerned that the job of Head Coach is taking its toll on Jerry Moore's health. I wonder if the same impression would be conveyed without all the redactions?

The passage "The 2012 football season is Coach Moore’s last season as head coach. He will retire immediately following the final game of the 2012 season. This would be communicated immediately to him and the staff and announced publicly in the spring although it is assumed that it will be public before then." doesn't jibe with Peacock's Brad Adcock anecdote. Neither does it make sense with keeping the staff, especially Satterfield, and the fanbase in the dark for so long.

Cobb himself refutes the recruiting argument advanced by some as a reason to force Coach Moore to step down so soon after the Illinois State game and not give the Coach a "farewell season": "One, effective recruiting is an inexact science by nature, Two, over the last several years, kids being recruited by us have not come in with the expectation to play for Coach their entire college careers. Three, because of the unstable nature of coaching, no kid being recruited by any staff in America can be honestly told that they will play for that coach or staff for his entire career. In the SoCon alone, every team but Wofford and us changed head coaches in the past five years or, more accurately, during the college life of kids in the 2011 graduating class."

You're trolling with an axe to grind. We all support Coach Moore, but that was a respectful and clear email by CC to JM. You need to move on.

[T-Dog]

What I find interesting is that Bill Stewart was a serious candidate for the OC/QB coach job. I wonder if that would have helped him deal with his exit from WVU and perhaps saved his life?

[ASUMountaineer]

What I find interesting is that Bill Stewart was a serious candidate for the OC/QB coach job. I wonder if that would have helped him deal with his exit from WVU and perhaps saved his life?

I found that quite interesting as well.

[appst89]

IS THAT ALL THEY HAVE? Seriously, one email from Cobb to Coach Moore and one memo from Cobb to Peacock. No written or typed response from the Coach whatsoever, and the last document of record dated December 31st of last year...for one of the most important athletics decisions in University history???

First thoughts:
The released documents add weight to the notion that Cobb and Peacock have, for at least a year, wanted to oust Coach Moore. They tell us nothing, unfiltered, though, about what the Coach thought of their plans. There is nothing directly from the Coach indicating that he agreed to anything.

Cobb comes off as a benevolent guy who is concerned that the job of Head Coach is taking its toll on Jerry Moore's health. I wonder if the same impression would be conveyed without all the redactions?

The passage "The 2012 football season is Coach Moore’s last season as head coach. He will retire immediately following the final game of the 2012 season. This would be communicated immediately to him and the staff and announced publicly in the spring although it is assumed that it will be public before then." doesn't jibe with Peacock's Brad Adcock anecdote. Neither does it make sense with keeping the staff, especially Satterfield, and the fanbase in the dark for so long.

Cobb himself refutes the recruiting argument advanced by some as a reason to force Coach Moore to step down so soon after the Illinois State game and not give the Coach a "farewell season": "One, effective recruiting is an inexact science by nature, Two, over the last several years, kids being recruited by us have not come in with the expectation to play for Coach their entire college careers. Three, because of the unstable nature of coaching, no kid being recruited by any staff in America can be honestly told that they will play for that coach or staff for his entire career. In the SoCon alone, every team but Wofford and us changed head coaches in the past five years or, more accurately, during the college life of kids in the 2011 graduating class."

What more do they need? It supports exactly what they said from the beginning. The coach was told 2012 would be his last season. It doesn't matter what he thought of their plans or whether he agreed with them. He was told.

[HappyHippie]

Where was he told?

[GlassOnion]

The passage "The 2012 football season is Coach Moore’s last season as head coach. He will retire immediately following the final game of the 2012 season. This would be communicated immediately to him and the staff and announced publicly in the spring although it is assumed that it will be public before then." doesn't jibe with Peacock's Brad Adcock anecdote. Neither does it make sense with keeping the staff, especially Satterfield, and the fanbase in the dark for so long.

Well, that line in the email to Peacock, and the other email that was SENT to JM from Cobb before the meeting directly contradict JM's interview to the papers saying he was "blindsided."

Apparently knowing something for an entire year is being blindsided.

[BeauFoster]

Where was he told?

Reading is fundamental. I suggest you try it sometime.

[MountainMan]

Where was he told?

OMG. What are you smoking?

[TheMoody1]

Where was he told?

I hope you went to Western.

[ASUPATCH]

Where was he told?

This is a joke right?

[appbio91]

The passage "The 2012 football season is Coach Moore’s last season as head coach. He will retire immediately following the final game of the 2012 season. This would be communicated immediately to him and the staff and announced publicly in the spring although it is assumed that it will be public before then." doesn't jibe with Peacock's Brad Adcock anecdote. Neither does it make sense with keeping the staff, especially Satterfield, and the fanbase in the dark for so long.

Well, that line in the email to Peacock, and the other email that was SENT to JM from Cobb before the meeting directly contradict JM's interview to the papers saying he was "blindsided."

Apparently knowing something for an entire year is being blindsided.

For all you know jerry said " when I received the email from my good friend Charlie Cobb in Dec 2011, I was blindsided by the whole deal". What was printed was " I was blindsided". If you were trying to sell a paper which would you print. You don't know the context of the comment at all. Again Cobb brought this on himself because he does not know how to fire someone. But I am sure he will learn from this experience and not make the same mistakes when he moves on to a big time university.

[bcoach]

After I read the letter and memo I thought it would be the saddest thing I would read for a long, long time. I was wrong.

[GlassOnion]

For all you know jerry said " when I received the email from my good friend Charlie Cobb in Dec 2011, I was blindsided by the whole deal". What was printed was " I was blindsided". If you were trying to sell a paper which would you print. You don't know the context of the comment at all. Again Cobb brought this on himself because he does not know how to fire someone. But I am sure he will learn from this experience and not make the same mistakes when he moves on to a big time university.

Easy enough to prove wrong.

“The whole deal just blindsided me,” Moore said, adding that he didn’t sense that it would be his last season if things went well in 2012.-Tommy Bowman, The Winston Salem Journal

Any other JM excuses?

[AppinATL]

After reading the letters, it seems like it was a good thing that they came to light. I think they show that Cobb was trying to do the right thing for all concerned and it all blew up in his face, regardless. I have always been behind Charlie as far as the job he has done as AD. I think we have a real good one here. I have been and remain critical of his PR skills. It seems to me all this ugliness could have been avoided or at least mitigated if he had handled the announcement differently.

Doing it the very next morning after such a heartbreaking loss with Coach Moore not even around for comment really gave a bad impression. What was the hurry? If it were me, I would have talked to Coach privately to let him know we were going forward with the agreement, let it sink in for a few days then had a press conference with Coach Moore to announce his RETIREMENT and publicly thank him for his tremendous contributions to the football program and the university. That would be presenting a united front and presumably, by that time, Coach would be better prepared to put on a good public face and go along with things. If that was not possible, then at least I would have tried. I really think that if you sat down with Coach and laid it all out like was done in the letter and stressed that your main concern was to not damage his reputation or that of the program and University, that with a few days for him to cool down and think clearly, he would have gone along with it.

But what's done is done. Now the main job at hand is to move forward. Get a new coach in place and hopefully find us a new FBS home and get some positive news coverage for a change with a fresh start. I think Charlie is our guy and trust that the athletic dept is in good hands. They just maybe need to send him to a PR workshop or two or get a PR consultant hired.

[ASUMountaineer]

The passage "The 2012 football season is Coach Moore’s last season as head coach. He will retire immediately following the final game of the 2012 season. This would be communicated immediately to him and the staff and announced publicly in the spring although it is assumed that it will be public before then." doesn't jibe with Peacock's Brad Adcock anecdote. Neither does it make sense with keeping the staff, especially Satterfield, and the fanbase in the dark for so long.

Well, that line in the email to Peacock, and the other email that was SENT to JM from Cobb before the meeting directly contradict JM's interview to the papers saying he was "blindsided."

Apparently knowing something for an entire year is being blindsided.

For all you know jerry said " when I received the email from my good friend Charlie Cobb in Dec 2011, I was blindsided by the whole deal". What was printed was " I was blindsided". If you were trying to sell a paper which would you print. You don't know the context of the comment at all. Again Cobb brought this on himself because he does not know how to fire someone. But I am sure he will learn from this experience and not make the same mistakes when he moves on to a big time university.

You really don't like Cobb, do you? Wow.

[AppinVA]

Where was he told?

This is a joke right?

It's like Clue.
He was axed by Charlie Cobb in the billiard room with an email. Or something like that.

[AppinVA]

After reading the letters, it seems like it was a good thing that they came to light. I think they show that Cobb was trying to do the right thing for all concerned and it all blew up in his face, regardless. I have always been behind Charlie as far as the job he has done as AD. I think we have a real good one here. I have been and remain critical of his PR skills. It seems to me all this ugliness could have been avoided or at least mitigated if he had handled the announcement differently.

Doing it the very next morning after such a heartbreaking loss with Coach Moore not even around for comment really gave a bad impression. What was the hurry? If it were me, I would have talked to Coach privately to let him know we were going forward with the agreement, let it sink in for a few days then had a press conference with Coach Moore to announce his RETIREMENT and publicly thank him for his tremendous contributions to the football program and the university. That would be presenting a united front and presumably, by that time, Coach would be better prepared to put on a good public face and go along with things. If that was not possible, then at least I would have tried. I really think that if you sat down with Coach and laid it all out like was done in the letter and stressed that your main concern was to not damage his reputation or that of the program and University, that with a few days for him to cool down and think clearly, he would have gone along with it.

But what's done is done. Now the main job at hand is to move forward. Get a new coach in place and hopefully find us a new FBS home and get some positive news coverage for a change with a fresh start. I think Charlie is our guy and trust that the athletic dept is in good hands. They just maybe need to send him to a PR workshop or two or get a PR consultant hired.

It almost sounds like that Sunday Morning meeting went about as badly as you could imagine it would. Cobb reminded him what was going to take place (probably again, given JM's reported blow off of CC following the win over Furman), and JM said he would go to all lengths to get one more year, which forced CC to do what he did in the manner he had to do it.

I'm sure this is more juicy than what we've seen, but if I were working for a state agency, I would handle all of my sensitive communications through a tracphone, and every now and then throw the thing in a toilet and get a new one.

[T-Dog]

I re-posted the letters on the main page with some formatting so that they're a lot easier to read.

http://www.yosefscabin.com/app-st-relea ... mber-2011/