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Re: NMSU Game

Unread post by proasu89 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:07 pm

NewApp wrote:Good Lord, is anybody at this game? The shot just now of the stands showed them empty.
Wonder if any of the Aggie students were turned away?

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Unread post by huskie3 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:07 pm

NewApp wrote:Good Lord, is anybody at this game? The shot just now of the stands showed them empty.
WHO CARES!!!!!! APP WINS, COUNTS THE SAME IF THERE IS A CROWD OR NO ONE.
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Unread post by JMappfan5 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:49 pm

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Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:04 pm

600+ yards of offense for the second straight game with both Cox and Moore both over 200 again. Sweet way the finish the regular season.

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Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:56 pm

If targeting occurs in the first half, the player misses the first half of the next game. If it occurs in the second half they miss the entire next game.
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Unread post by EastHallApp » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:51 pm

If targeting is called in the first half, the player only misses the rest of that game. Hayes will be eligible for the start of the bowl game.

A targeting call in the second half = must sit out the first half of the next game.

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Unread post by JMappfan5 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:52 pm

Per NCAA web-site: "The rule in football means that discipline for players flagged for violations will mirror the penalty for fighting. If the foul occurs in the first half of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game. If the foul occurs in the second half or overtime of a game, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game and the first half of the next contest."

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:36 pm

Either way, that was a bogus call. He didn't lead with his helmet nor did he make helmet to helmet contact. If anything, the actions of the runner initiated the contact with a late slide. I hate the helmet to helmet rule.

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Unread post by huskie3 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:57 pm

AppSt94 wrote:Either way, that was a bogus call. He didn't lead with his helmet nor did he make helmet to helmet contact. If anything, the actions of the runner initiated the contact with a late slide. I hate the helmet to helmet rule.
Targeting is not helmet to helmet, it is hitting the head of ball carrier.
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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:08 pm

It's actually the head neck or shoulder area. And it is intentionally launching ones self leading with the head. Hayes nade contact with the runners shoulders with his shoulder. He was not using his helmet as a weapon. The non targeting call on Critcher two weeks ago was closer to the rule than this one.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:46 am

Here's the two views of Hayes' targeting.

View 1 and View 2

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Unread post by hapapp » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:58 am

It is clear to me that Hayes has started his dive prior to the QB sliding. I've got no problem with the rule but it seems there is some difficulty in its application in this case.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:51 am

hapapp wrote:It is clear to me that Hayes has started his dive prior to the QB sliding. I've got no problem with the rule but it seems there is some difficulty in its application in this case.
I agree with you it the application of the rule. It leaves too much margin in the interpretation of intent.

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:22 pm

Announced crowd just over 6,000. Was that even a generous number? I know NMSU is leaving but how did this and other schools remain FBS? How does their athletic department stay afloat?

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Unread post by TurfMonkey » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:31 pm

Morning paper had just north of 5300, without looking I would think that would
be the smallest FBS crowd in the country Saturday, if not the whole year. Not picking on them, we
would have been low had it been in Boone.

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:19 pm

TurfMonkey wrote:Morning paper had just north of 5300, without looking I would think that would
be the smallest FBS crowd in the country Saturday, if not the whole year. Not picking on them, we
would have been low had it been in Boone.
No doubt it would have been maybe 15k but how many schools have 30k stadiums and don't come close to filling them?

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:18 pm

I watched the game. There were more players of combined teams plus the band than there were other fans

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Unread post by wncapp78 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:32 pm

Went to the game. A few random observations. Las Cruses is about 40 miles east of El Paso. El Paso is a hell hole. The Sun Bowl would have to be one of the worst options for fans! Although about 100k LC seemed small and lots of empty buildings. The announced attendance was 5k. That may have been close. I remember our Thanksgiving weekend playoff games back in the day. We had a few more fans than I expected but everyone kind of spread out. I would guess 100? The campus seemed a little community college-ish. But they had done a very good job with a mixed-use development on the outskirts of campus that would be similar to what I have seen in Atlanta at the Georgia Tech campus included a Barnes and Noble Chick-fil-A etc. It's about 230 miles north to Albuquerque. I drove 85-90 most of the way and still got passed often. The Southwest is so culturally different it was interesting trip. No one really acknowledged me, either to say welcome or to make snide comments. That was a little odd given the distance. Did not seem the LC community was very into the team either. Because it was Thanksgiving weekend and I traveled on Thanksgiving day my airfare was cheap. I would actually probably make the trip again if we play them just for the cultural experience (and of course following the Mountaineers anywhere).

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Re: NMSU Game

Unread post by NewApp » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:41 pm

wncapp78 wrote:Went to the game. A few random observations. Las Cruses is about 40 miles east of El Paso. El Paso is a hell hole. The Sun Bowl would have to be one of the worst options for fans! Although about 100k LC seemed small and lots of empty buildings. The announced attendance was 5k. That may have been close. I remember our Thanksgiving weekend playoff games back in the day. We had a few more fans than I expected but everyone kind of spread out. I would guess 100? The campus seemed a little community college-ish. But they had done a very good job with a mixed-use development on the outskirts of campus that would be similar to what I have seen in Atlanta at the Georgia Tech campus included a Barnes and Noble Chick-fil-A etc. It's about 230 miles north to Albuquerque. I drove 85-90 most of the way and still got passed often. The Southwest is so culturally different it was interesting trip. No one really acknowledged me, either to say welcome or to make snide comments. That was a little odd given the distance. Did not seem the LC community was very into the team either. Because it was Thanksgiving weekend and I traveled on Thanksgiving day my airfare was cheap. I would actually probably make the trip again if we play them just for the cultural experience (and of course following the Mountaineers anywhere).
We had a lot more than 100 at the play-off games I attended. The Illinois State game in 2012 had over 16,000 in attendance according to the Media Guide. The Maine game in 2011 had over 15,000, The South Carolina State game on Nov 28, 2008 had 13,712. James Madison on Nov.24, 2007 had over 14,000.
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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:57 pm

NewApp wrote:
wncapp78 wrote:Went to the game. A few random observations. Las Cruses is about 40 miles east of El Paso. El Paso is a hell hole. The Sun Bowl would have to be one of the worst options for fans! Although about 100k LC seemed small and lots of empty buildings. The announced attendance was 5k. That may have been close. I remember our Thanksgiving weekend playoff games back in the day. We had a few more fans than I expected but everyone kind of spread out. I would guess 100? The campus seemed a little community college-ish. But they had done a very good job with a mixed-use development on the outskirts of campus that would be similar to what I have seen in Atlanta at the Georgia Tech campus included a Barnes and Noble Chick-fil-A etc. It's about 230 miles north to Albuquerque. I drove 85-90 most of the way and still got passed often. The Southwest is so culturally different it was interesting trip. No one really acknowledged me, either to say welcome or to make snide comments. That was a little odd given the distance. Did not seem the LC community was very into the team either. Because it was Thanksgiving weekend and I traveled on Thanksgiving day my airfare was cheap. I would actually probably make the trip again if we play them just for the cultural experience (and of course following the Mountaineers anywhere).
We had a lot more than 100 at the play-off games I attended. The Illinois State game in 2012 had over 16,000 in attendance according to the Media Guide. The Maine game in 2011 had over 15,000, The South Carolina State game on Nov 28, 2008 had 13,712. James Madison on Nov.24, 2007 had over 14,000.
I believe he probably meant 10,000 which is still a little low.

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