Boone Vandalism Case

App91 · Unread post by **App91** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:17 pm

That is why this SHOULD be a felony! This is not some prank case where "boys will be boys". This is a well thought out, purposeful target due to political beliefs. There should be no toleration for such acts.

Gonzo · Unread post by **Gonzo** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:59 pm

App91 wrote:That is why this SHOULD be a felony! This is not some prank case where "boys will be boys". This is a well thought out, purposeful target due to political beliefs. There should be no toleration for such acts.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water and felonize taggers because you don't like the message of one cluster of examples.

It's the things these women allegedly did aside from spray painting Boone that make them evil. The ones that have been deleted.

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:18 pm

A week in jail, $5,000 fine paid to the owners of the damaged property, payment for the repair of the damaged property, and permanent expulsion from the university. Post their pictures in their hometown newspapers. This is not a prank. This is though out destruction of property by adults. Community service is no deter ant to crime. It is a slight inconvenience. Much less inconvenient than what the property owners have to go through.

ComebackShack · Unread post by **ComebackShack** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:49 pm

I initially deleted this post because I figured that slinging mud at the 4 girls is no better than what they did to the town of Boone through their vandalism and to the people they have hurt. After I thought about it, I decided that they don't deserve that thought. Here is the full post that I previously redacted.

I have a little bit of insight to the situation as both a current senior at App and having know 2 of the girls personally.

Firsty, Taryn is a school teacher at a local elementary school so is she the kind of person we want in our school's?

Secondly, you guys remember the Georgia Southern parking protests that largely led to the protest culture at App as well as the rise of the App State student power group? Ms. Grainger was the head of that entire movement and the one in charge of all protests for App State the last 2 or so years. She also is entangled in various other legal proceedings involving her methods of witch hunting others online and posting various obscene things about others she didn't like to get them fired/expelled (which a lot of turned out to be unsubstantiated). She was in a gen-ed with me. She truly believes men and whites are terrible people, that anyone who disagrees with her deserves to have something terrible happen (like fired, expelled, etc) and that anyone involved in Greek life has raped someone.

News story about Julia: http://www.campusleadership.org/?ID=6463

Thirdly, Hannah was suite mates with one of my friends their freshman year. She was known to call other girls terrible things and spread lies, she would damage her property and put lotion and oil on the floor and doors so she would slip or be unable to turn the knob effectively locking her in her room. She also locked her in the bathroom (which had locks on the outside) for a whole day while she went to class without her cell phone or clothes. She was also known to stick her used feminine products on the wall by her bed, on the door, and in her possessions.

Lastly, Elizabeth is the girlfriend of Julia and has done a lot of the same stuff as her as far as trying to publicly call out people using rumors and false narratives to get them fired.

Rekdiver · Unread post by **Rekdiver** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:07 pm

Well I demand that the Chancellor immediately expels them with a restraining order that they are not allowed within 100 years of campus and that the town of Boone prosecute them asap. The one who is the teacher gets fired.

Saint3333 · Unread post by **Saint3333** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:16 pm

Rekdiver wrote:Well I demand that the Chancellor immediately expels them with a restraining order that they are not allowed within 100 years of campus and that the town of Boone prosecute them asap. The one who is the teacher gets fired.

If those same type of acts had been committed eight years ago that would have been the social justice cry.

NewApp · Unread post by **NewApp** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:19 pm

Rekdiver wrote:Well I demand that the Chancellor immediately expels them with a restraining order that they are not allowed within 100 years of campus and that the town of Boone prosecute them asap. The one who is the teacher gets fired.

Rekdiver, have they admitted to the vandalism yet? Otherwise, we should wait for their day in court.

Rekdiver · Unread post by **Rekdiver** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:13 am

NewApp wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:Well I demand that the Chancellor immediately expels them with a restraining order that they are not allowed within 100 years of campus and that the town of Boone prosecute them asap. The one who is the teacher gets fired.
Rekdiver, have they admitted to the vandalism yet? Otherwise, we should wait for their day in court.

I believe there is plenty of video evidence.....The school can move to expel..as we have seen without any semblance of due process.
Rarely am I this far to the right........ As Arnold says" Do It"

JTApps1 · Unread post by **JTApps1** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:27 am

Rekdiver wrote:
NewApp wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:Well I demand that the Chancellor immediately expels them with a restraining order that they are not allowed within 100 years of campus and that the town of Boone prosecute them asap. The one who is the teacher gets fired.
Rekdiver, have they admitted to the vandalism yet? Otherwise, we should wait for their day in court.
I believe there is plenty of video evidence.....The school can move to expel..as we have seen without any semblance of due process.
Rarely am I this far to the right........ As Arnold says" Do It"

I don't think this is a left or right issue when it comes to punishment no matter the motives of the people involved. It just comes down to facing the punishment for the crime, and in this case getting expelled for vandalism of school and private property is an easy call.

Boone Goon · Unread post by **Boone Goon** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:34 am

LOCK 'EM UP! Expel them, and fire them while you're at it.

Slander: check
Vandalism: check

MtnMan09 · Unread post by **MtnMan09** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:55 am

Boone Goon wrote:LOCK 'EM UP! Expel them, and fire them while you're at it.

Slander: check
Vandalism: check

Vandalism yes. But you're a far cry from proving slander in NC.

boonetown1 · Unread post by **boonetown1** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:59 am

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/31/po ... spree.html

This was on my Apple news feed. Not that I like Fox News but it's a little larger media outlet than The Appalachian.

NewApp · Unread post by **NewApp** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:50 am

Boone Goon wrote:LOCK 'EM UP! Expel them, and fire them while you're at it.

Slander: check
Vandalism: check

Were all four current ASU students? I was thinking someone posted that one was a teacher in one of the elementary schools.

Appdoggy · Unread post by **Appdoggy** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:56 am

How about everyone just put their pitchforks down for a second.. You all are getting into such a frenzy over this Fox "News" -like sensationalist story. The graffiti was bush-league and incredibly stupid. But it was graffiti (not a felony) and from what I've heard, it was their first offense... They should absolutely have to pay restitution (compensating for repairs and such) as well as do community service and the school should put them on probation. No any additional punishments that could seriously jeopardize their futures (i.e. felony charges or expulsion) are really warranted. Just because someone who has a different viewpoint then you does something misdemeanor-level stupid, doesn't mean we should burn them at the stake.

It's funny how some pick and choose their causes. Where was all this uproar when a certain safety from App beat on his girlfriend w/ a closed fist a few years ago? Granted the charges were dropped (b/c gf likely didn't cooperate w/ police), but the board was significantly quieter then...

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:13 pm

Appdoggy wrote:How about everyone just put their pitchforks down for a second.. You all are getting into such a frenzy over this Fox "News" -like sensationalist story. The graffiti was bush-league and incredibly stupid. But it was graffiti (not a felony) and from what I've heard, it was their first offense... They should absolutely have to pay restitution (compensating for repairs and such) as well as do community service and the school should put them on probation. No any additional punishments that could seriously jeopardize their futures (i.e. felony charges or expulsion) are really warranted. Just because someone who has a different viewpoint then you does something misdemeanor-level stupid, doesn't mean we should burn them at the stake.

It's funny how some pick and choose their causes. Where was all this uproar when a certain safety from App beat on his girlfriend w/ a closed fist a few years ago? Granted the charges were dropped (b/c gf likely didn't cooperate w/ police), but the board was significantly quieter then...

Well I don't really get into the "well he did it " mentality because that is just something to say when you don't have a leg to stand on. I will say though that if a man beats on a woman I don't sit back. He needs to go to the big house for a very long time and that is only because I would go to jail for what really needs to happen to him. Now you may call it graffiti to make it sound less than it is but it is destruction of property. They should have thought of their futures BEFORE they damaged property. They should be expelled and the teacher has demonstrated she should not be teaching children. I will also stick with my week in jail. One last thing. First time offender is bull crap as a defense.

MAD Doctor · Unread post by **MAD Doctor** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:33 pm

Appdoggy wrote:How about everyone just put their pitchforks down for a second.. You all are getting into such a frenzy over this Fox "News" -like sensationalist story. The graffiti was bush-league and incredibly stupid. But it was graffiti (not a felony) and from what I've heard, it was their first offense... They should absolutely have to pay restitution (compensating for repairs and such) as well as do community service and the school should put them on probation. No any additional punishments that could seriously jeopardize their futures (i.e. felony charges or expulsion) are really warranted. Just because someone who has a different viewpoint then you does something misdemeanor-level stupid, doesn't mean we should burn them at the stake.

It's funny how some pick and choose their causes. Where was all this uproar when a certain safety from App beat on his girlfriend w/ a closed fist a few years ago? Granted the charges were dropped (b/c gf likely didn't cooperate w/ police), but the board was significantly quieter then...

Have to disagree. Take the hateful messages out of it if you want, and it's still community property damage. I'll let the courts decide whether or not it is a felony, but having daddy write a check because you got caught plus the joke of community service and probation doesn't even qualify as a wrist slap. I'm sure the administration will coddle them because they agree with their message, but the Boone PD and the vandals' current and future employers have every right to administer real world justice outside of "safe spaces."

CheckYosef94 · Unread post by **CheckYosef94** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:48 pm

At what point does a person become old enough to realistically be able to look at there actions beforehand and think of what the consequences will be? I don't care if it's their first offense. They are old enough to know that what they did/were planning to do was illegal and stupid. These actions proved to me that they aren't responsible and mature enough to go to school, much less live somewhere where they will meet people with opposing views of their own.

Boone Goon · Unread post by **Boone Goon** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:08 pm

Appdoggy wrote:How about everyone just put their pitchforks down for a second.. You all are getting into such a frenzy over this Fox "News" -like sensationalist story. The graffiti was bush-league and incredibly stupid. But it was graffiti (not a felony) and from what I've heard, it was their first offense... They should absolutely have to pay restitution (compensating for repairs and such) as well as do community service and the school should put them on probation. No any additional punishments that could seriously jeopardize their futures (i.e. felony charges or expulsion) are really warranted. Just because someone who has a different viewpoint then you does something misdemeanor-level stupid, doesn't mean we should burn them at the stake.

It's funny how some pick and choose their causes. Where was all this uproar when a certain safety from App beat on his girlfriend w/ a closed fist a few years ago? Granted the charges were dropped (b/c gf likely didn't cooperate w/ police), but the board was significantly quieter then...

Sorry, these girls were claiming the moral high ground and accusing "ALL FRAT BOYS" of being rapists. Now they're caught actually doing something illegal and we want to give them the benefit of the doubt. Nope...that's not how the real world works.

These types of people are the worst of our society. They preach tolerance and condemn beliefs they don't agree with. In her case she publicly chastised 2 freshmen and 2 sophomores for trying to organize a university sponsored educational course on rape prevention.

Flip this story around and ask where would she be if it had been 4 white males in their 20's who had spray painted pro-Trump/anti-HRC slogans on the same locations around Boone. What would her demands of the university and community have been? Double standard?? Like several on the board, I have some additional knowledge of these women beyond whats being captured in the media reports; and none of it reflects positively on them. NONE.

Protests are fine. Vandalism isn't. Slandering someone just because you don't agree with them unacceptable and should be grounds for expulsion.

So yeah, I've got a pitchfork and I'm damn proud of it.

ComebackShack · Unread post by **ComebackShack** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:17 pm

NewApp wrote:
Boone Goon wrote:LOCK 'EM UP! Expel them, and fire them while you're at it.

Slander: check
Vandalism: check
Were all four current ASU students? I was thinking someone posted that one was a teacher in one of the elementary schools.

Grainger and Prier had graduated in December. The other two were current students. Bledsoe is a student teacher at Two Rivers Community School in Boone

HeffnerIV · Unread post by **HeffnerIV** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:27 pm

I don't really believe that we should have different levels of punishment based on the motive (violent crimes not withstanding). What concerns me about this situation is that a group of people felt they were justified because of their political/social beliefs. I'm afraid that's trending, too

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