AppinVA wrote:Isn't much of Old Crow from Harrisinning, and didn't Doc give them their break in Boone? Perhaps We could fight for a wagonwheel...WataugaMan wrote:Overtime I see another "Mountain Jug" type rivalry developing with a different team wearing purple.AppHokie wrote:I am extremely (selfishly) excited if JMU comes on board. The Sun Belt is not the most travel friendly conference from where I live (Richmond).
Martinsville/Chatham. Maybe halfway between JMU and App.WataugaMan wrote:AppinVA wrote:Isn't much of Old Crow from Harrisinning, and didn't Doc give them their break in Boone? Perhaps We could fight for a wagonwheel...WataugaMan wrote:Overtime I see another "Mountain Jug" type rivalry developing with a different team wearing purple.AppHokie wrote:I am extremely (selfishly) excited if JMU comes on board. The Sun Belt is not the most travel friendly conference from where I live (Richmond).
Isn't Tim and Tickle from around the James Madison area?
The all-time series is 12-4 ASU. Sounds about right for a Mountain Jug series!WataugaMan wrote: Over time I see another "Mountain Jug" type rivalry developing with a different team wearing purple.
i think the chatham area was used for that show...and interestingly enough bill from sc with the goatee and glasses went to hargrave in chatham with me back in the 80's...ill see him at the hargrave reunion in a few weeks. he's a real gentle, laid back guy.AppinVA wrote:Martinsville/Chatham. Maybe halfway between JMU and App.WataugaMan wrote:AppinVA wrote:Isn't much of Old Crow from Harrisinning, and didn't Doc give them their break in Boone? Perhaps We could fight for a wagonwheel...WataugaMan wrote:Overtime I see another "Mountain Jug" type rivalry developing with a different team wearing purple.AppHokie wrote:I am extremely (selfishly) excited if JMU comes on board. The Sun Belt is not the most travel friendly conference from where I live (Richmond).
Isn't Tim and Tickle from around the James Madison area?
The incessant ULL, and to a lesser extent, Ark State, whining is hilarious.Kgfish wrote:Wish ULL was the one leaving.
Based on another thread...not my own research.....They should not be too offended! We would have the largest stadium capacity, JMU 4th and GSU 8th!...Sounds like we might be the ones offended!RankinApp wrote:It's crazy how fast WKU's fortunes have changed, going from one of the worst FBS starts ever to turning it around and heading to C-USA.
I still wish App would have/could have jumped before the moratorium. Could be us setting up shop.
I imagine the remaining Sun Belt school fans aren't going to be thrilled about the possibility of another FCS team joining the ranks.
I much prefer the butts in seat measurement. For regular season games, ASU would have lead the Sun Belt in attendance in 2012.manzanowolf wrote:If the figures below are football stadium capacities, those are not accurate at all for stAte . .
Yeah, that's why I've been using the 5 year mark in most of my posts. I have talked to many people and I've heard anything from 3 to 8 years. But I've heard more in the 5 year time frame than anything else (not for moves to start but for the moves to be finished). What a lot of people fail to think of is what effect these moves by the Power conferences have on those members already in the Go5. While our move will make us spend more, with the revenue sharing from the conferences we are not going to lose budget money but will gain some. Not a ton but some. The schools already there, should the Power conferences get their way, will actually be losing money from their budgets. That is why most people believe that, once the big guys sort themselves out, the ones left will have to either merge or poach in order to form regional conferences to cut down on travel expenses. Our biggest problem was being left out should all this go down and we were still FCS. We are now in the door and thus in the mix. We'll bite the bullet for a few years but in the long run this will work out as conferences sort out the best way for each to get as big a piece of the pie as they can.YesAppCan wrote:Moose, I have thought for a long time that eventually, even with GIANT egos in play, regional conferences will HAVE to be established by those not in a "super conference" to, as Terry Holland said, "put butts in the seats" at the games. Regional rivalries are vital to college football. I don't know how long that will take for a re-shuffling to occur but I'd say around 5 years... I've heard some more informed folks say 7-8 years. App State being in the conversation now is huge.
I think those are actually average attendance numbers from the NCAA site.asutrnr81 wrote:Based on another thread...not my own research.....They should not be too offended! We would have the largest stadium capacity, JMU 4th and GSU 8th!...Sounds like we might be the ones offended!RankinApp wrote:It's crazy how fast WKU's fortunes have changed, going from one of the worst FBS starts ever to turning it around and heading to C-USA.
I still wish App would have/could have jumped before the moratorium. Could be us setting up shop.
I imagine the remaining Sun Belt school fans aren't going to be thrilled about the possibility of another FCS team joining the ranks.
App St. 26.3K
La Monroe 25K
La Lafayette 22.9K
JMU 22.8K
Troy 21K
Texas State 19K
GSU 18.5K
WKU 17.4K
South Alabama 16.8K
NMSU 14.2K
Idaho 12.6K
Ark. State 12.3K
I think we might as well accept this attitude for now. We are the new kids on the block and it dings their self image. ULL and Arkansas State stand to lose the most because they are at the top of the football heap right not. They might as well enjoy their smart aleck attitudes while they can. I strongly believe that we will silence these criticisms quickly once the competitions start. Until then, they are just loading out bulletin boards with motivational material.RankinApp wrote:I much prefer the butts in seat measurement. For regular season games, ASU would have lead the Sun Belt in attendance in 2012.manzanowolf wrote:If the figures below are football stadium capacities, those are not accurate at all for stAte . .
GSU would also have been over 20,000 mark.
App - 27,964
Ark State - 26,398
Monroe - 24,981
Lafayette - 22,865
Troy - 20,952
Georgia Southern - 20,087
North Texas - 18,927
Middel Tenn - 17,738
Western Ky - 17,415
South AL - 16,793
FIU - 13,634
FAU - 13,459
I guess I don't get the derision by ULL and Ark State when you're bringing in two quality programs that have actual fans.
I am still scoffing. The Sun Belt has ZERO private schools. Let alone one as polarizing as the Flames. Funny mascot considering Falwells many flame rants he went on.wncapp78 wrote:No doubt the whole landscape is so different it's hard to keep up, but just a few short months ago, posters on this Board scoffed at Liberty even joining the SoCon.
ASUPATCH wrote:I am still scoffing. The Sun Belt has ZERO private schools. Let alone one as polarizing as the Flames. Funny mascot considering Falwells many flame rants he went on.wncapp78 wrote:No doubt the whole landscape is so different it's hard to keep up, but just a few short months ago, posters on this Board scoffed at Liberty even joining the SoCon.
Yosef84 wrote:I think those are actually average attendance numbers from the NCAA site.asutrnr81 wrote:Based on another thread...not my own research.....They should not be too offended! We would have the largest stadium capacity, JMU 4th and GSU 8th!...Sounds like we might be the ones offended!RankinApp wrote:It's crazy how fast WKU's fortunes have changed, going from one of the worst FBS starts ever to turning it around and heading to C-USA.
I still wish App would have/could have jumped before the moratorium. Could be us setting up shop.
I imagine the remaining Sun Belt school fans aren't going to be thrilled about the possibility of another FCS team joining the ranks.
App St. 26.3K
La Monroe 25K
La Lafayette 22.9K
JMU 22.8K
Troy 21K
Texas State 19K
GSU 18.5K
WKU 17.4K
South Alabama 16.8K
NMSU 14.2K
Idaho 12.6K
Ark. State 12.3K
It just goes to show...make the right coaching hires & a lot can change, good or bad. Think about Youngstown...how good they used to be. Still have the 2nd most I-AA titles, but haven't been able to recapture the magic since Tressel left. People assumed we would dominate FCS forever, but there are no guarantees...gotta move up when you can.BeauFoster wrote:Two years ago (maybe even 18 months), WKU was the poster child for the anti-FBS bunch as what ASU is destined to become if we were to move. My how times have changed, indeed.RankinApp wrote:It's crazy how fast WKU's fortunes have changed, going from one of the worst FBS starts ever to turning it around and heading to C-USA.
I still wish App would have/could have jumped before the moratorium. Could be us setting up shop.
I imagine the remaining Sun Belt school fans aren't going to be thrilled about the possibility of another FCS team joining the ranks.
