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Re: Watch Out

Unread post by AppInDC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:28 pm

Rick83 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:22 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
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If a two loss AAC team wins their championship, with only one P5 win, and we win out with two P5 wins and one 3 point loss I would have to believe that the committee would give us a serious look for the Cotton Bowl.
Boise St has a bad loss and a not great P5 win against Florida St. If they win the MWC I think our resume would be better...assuming we win out and it'd help if UNC would win some of their close games.
San Diego St could easily lose again as well as they're not really dominating anybody...I know I'm an optimist but I don't think the Cotton Bowl is totally out of the question for us.
We must win out and the AAC champ better have 2 losses for that to happen. It would still be close but Boise State and San Diego State must also have 2 losses. The AAC is better than the SBC but I'm not sure the MWC is. Boise State is the only reason their champ will have any legitimacy this year.

Cotton Bowl is not mathematically out of the question but there is so much that has to happen you will waste too much of your life figuring it all out. Like I said 5 weeks ago, things will play out. Not only do we need 2 MWC teams to lose one more but we need GSU to lose one, we need to win out, and we need the AAC champ to have 2 or 3 losses. That is a lot needed to happen.
I said that in my post, the AAC champ must have 2 losses but I'm not sure the MWC champion does assuming we win out. It also helps if Memphis holds on to beat SMU and it looks like ECU might blow their game...
Also, Ga Southern has several tough SBC games to play and could very easily lose one or more of those...
I think we need the Mountain West champ to have at least two losses. If everything else went our way, I'd feel uncomfortable having to beat out a one loss Boise or San Diego State.

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Re: Watch Out

Unread post by Rick83 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:32 pm

AppInDC wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:28 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:22 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:09 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:04 pm
If a two loss AAC team wins their championship, with only one P5 win, and we win out with two P5 wins and one 3 point loss I would have to believe that the committee would give us a serious look for the Cotton Bowl.
Boise St has a bad loss and a not great P5 win against Florida St. If they win the MWC I think our resume would be better...assuming we win out and it'd help if UNC would win some of their close games.
San Diego St could easily lose again as well as they're not really dominating anybody...I know I'm an optimist but I don't think the Cotton Bowl is totally out of the question for us.
We must win out and the AAC champ better have 2 losses for that to happen. It would still be close but Boise State and San Diego State must also have 2 losses. The AAC is better than the SBC but I'm not sure the MWC is. Boise State is the only reason their champ will have any legitimacy this year.

Cotton Bowl is not mathematically out of the question but there is so much that has to happen you will waste too much of your life figuring it all out. Like I said 5 weeks ago, things will play out. Not only do we need 2 MWC teams to lose one more but we need GSU to lose one, we need to win out, and we need the AAC champ to have 2 or 3 losses. That is a lot needed to happen.
I said that in my post, the AAC champ must have 2 losses but I'm not sure the MWC champion does assuming we win out. It also helps if Memphis holds on to beat SMU and it looks like ECU might blow their game...
Also, Ga Southern has several tough SBC games to play and could very easily lose one or more of those...
I think we need the Mountain West champ to have at least two losses. If everything else went our way, I'd feel uncomfortable having to beat out a one loss Boise or San Diego State.
I don't think anyone here knows that for sure, the committee is supposed to only look at this year's body of work and, if we win out, we'd have two P5 wins and only one 3 point loss. Obviously, it'd help our chances if the MWC champ has two losses along with a two loss AAC champ. Really need ECU to upset Cincy, and Memphis to beat SMU....

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:33 pm

There MIGHT be 5,000 people at ECU

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Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:34 pm

SMUs crappy defense is getting exposed. I knew it would eventually, but wasn't expecting us to have a loss. So irritating.
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Unread post by Rick83 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:46 pm

Well ECU almost helped us out...

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Re: Watch Out

Unread post by AppInDC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:48 pm

Well ECU blew it. Assuming SMU doesn't come back and assuming they take care of their other business, winner of Cincy/Memphis over Thanksgiving weekend has to be the NY6 favorite.

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:06 pm

Rick83 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:22 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:09 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:04 pm
If a two loss AAC team wins their championship, with only one P5 win, and we win out with two P5 wins and one 3 point loss I would have to believe that the committee would give us a serious look for the Cotton Bowl.
Boise St has a bad loss and a not great P5 win against Florida St. If they win the MWC I think our resume would be better...assuming we win out and it'd help if UNC would win some of their close games.
San Diego St could easily lose again as well as they're not really dominating anybody...I know I'm an optimist but I don't think the Cotton Bowl is totally out of the question for us.
We must win out and the AAC champ better have 2 losses for that to happen. It would still be close but Boise State and San Diego State must also have 2 losses. The AAC is better than the SBC but I'm not sure the MWC is. Boise State is the only reason their champ will have any legitimacy this year.

Cotton Bowl is not mathematically out of the question but there is so much that has to happen you will waste too much of your life figuring it all out. Like I said 5 weeks ago, things will play out. Not only do we need 2 MWC teams to lose one more but we need GSU to lose one, we need to win out, and we need the AAC champ to have 2 or 3 losses. That is a lot needed to happen.
I said that in my post, the AAC champ must have 2 losses but I'm not sure the MWC champion does assuming we win out. It also helps if Memphis holds on to beat SMU and it looks like ECU might blow their game...
Also, Ga Southern has several tough SBC games to play and could very easily lose one or more of those...
Yes I'm agreeing with you. I should have said I agree I guess lol.

Memphis proving SMU is not unbeatable, which I did not think they are. I'm pretty convinced the top 3 in the AAC would beat us right now.

GSU could lose one but again so many have to lose. I'm taking the easy, simple approach. See if we beat South Carolina and Georgia State and then look around and see what the other G5s are doing. If we lose either of those games nothing the other teams do even matter for us. We have no room for error to win the SBC and keep our name relevant.

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Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:10 pm

Bosie getting manhandled to start
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Re: Watch Out

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Bosie getting manhandled to start
I think Memphis and SMU would beat Boise State and SDSU by 2 scores this year. Boise State may win but I don't think they are a top 25 team. GSU is a better team than SJSU. If they lose to SJSU they are done for sure.

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Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:20 pm

Watched the SMU, Memphis game. Good stuff, I would love to see us find a way into the AAC but our fan base would have to get use to having a few more losses on our record. It was really odd to here tonight but Kirk Herbstreit actually had a lot of good things to say about some G5 programs and players.

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Unread post by J_Mountaineers » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:29 pm

The only thing we should be watching out for is which CUSA team looks like they’re headed to Mobile with us. Sorry, still not over the loss. Give me a few more days to sulk.

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Unread post by WASU 93 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:33 pm

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Memphis SMU game looks like a big time game. That stadium is packed to the gills.
Not sure if that their stadium or not but that game looks bigtime from all angles. Even Herbstreit lol
They play in The Liberty Bowl. IIt is only about 80 percent full per the aerial shots. It looks full on the lower camera angles, but the upper bowls are empty.

I do love the drum line playing before every snap.

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Unread post by asu7 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:35 pm

I think the AAC should be our landing point. We would struggle a bit at first. The SBC has been the best place for us to start transition though.
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Re: Watch Out

Unread post by Rick83 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:08 am

AppInDC wrote:
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Well ECU blew it. Assuming SMU doesn't come back and assuming they take care of their other business, winner of Cincy/Memphis over Thanksgiving weekend has to be the NY6 favorite.
Agree, and then we need the loser of that game to win the AAC conference championship game the following week...and of course we need to win out and preferably in convincing fashion.
To be honest, I feel like we've already made huge progress this year just being in the NY6 discussion at the 7 game point in the season. I'd love it if we had a few things fall into place and put us into the national discussion for that Cotton Bowl slot...just being in that discussion at this point in our FBS transition is astonishing.
Also, seeing SMU fall last night shows how hard it is to go undefeated in a season. We're now down to only 7 undefeated teams in the nation I believe and some of those will be playing each other soon...I know some on this board think Boise would get in ahead of us but in my humble opinion I don't think their resume would be as strong as ours if we win out, especially if we do it in convincing fashion. And of course we need Ga Southern to drop one more but looking at the teams they've got left and how up and down they've been this year, that's highly possible.

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Re: Watch Out

Unread post by AppInDC » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:17 am

Rick83 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:08 am
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Well ECU blew it. Assuming SMU doesn't come back and assuming they take care of their other business, winner of Cincy/Memphis over Thanksgiving weekend has to be the NY6 favorite.
Agree, and then we need the loser of that game to win the AAC conference championship game the following week...and of course we need to win out and preferably in convincing fashion.
To be honest, I feel like we've already made huge progress this year just being in the NY6 discussion at the 7 game point in the season. I'd love it if we had a few things fall into place and put us into the national discussion for that Cotton Bowl slot...just being in that discussion at this point in our FBS transition is astonishing.
Also, seeing SMU fall last night shows how hard it is to go undefeated in a season. We're now down to only 7 undefeated teams in the nation I believe and some of those will be playing each other soon...I know some on this board think Boise would get in ahead of us but in my humble opinion I don't think their resume would be as strong as ours if we win out, especially if we do it in convincing fashion. And of course we need Ga Southern to drop one more but looking at the teams they've got left and how up and down they've been this year, that's highly possible.
I said at the start of the year, I would be satisfied if we won at least nine regular season games, the Sun Belt title, and a bowl game. Those goals are still all within reach.

My stretch goals were beat either/both of the Carolinas, win out in the Sun Belt, and make the NY6 bowl. Second goal is out but first goal has been accomplished with a potential exclamation mark on Saturday in prime time. The NY6 is probably not happening but I don't think we're officially out yet and it's amazing that the conversation can even be had in the fifth year of bowl eligibility. I honestly thought our FBS tenure would be choppy at first and the fan base might have to be satisifed with several campaigns of four or five wins. Even if the bottom were to completely fall out this year and we lost every game, we would be guaranteed no worse than 7-6. Even in that nightmare scenario, many teams would wish they could do that.

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Re: Watch Out

Unread post by NewApp » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:56 am

Is it true EZU only had about 5K fans?
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Re: Watch Out

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:01 am

NewApp wrote:
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Is it true EZU only had about 5K fans?
I clicked on their game and watched a little bit. They did an overhead shot of the stadium and it looked very empty. I’m sure the announced crowd was well over 25k but it looked bad.

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