Gameday!!!

[bigdaddyg]

My god Chase was phenomenal except for the PIC where he got hit. He dropped dimes all night and even made huge runs. He extended plays that seemed dead. He plays his tail off.

[App_in_Maiden]

No one should question Chase and his desire to win. That guy gives it his all and then some every game.

[J_Mountaineers]

The biggest thing that has changed from the first two weeks in my mind, are the losses of Brendan Harrington and Cobb (I know he’s played some, but not really). This defensive unit lacks 2 of its best tacklers outside of Hampton.

Also: we are alarmingly slow at the skill positions on defense. I don’t think any of us are used to seeing this. We were blessed to have guys that could tackle alone in space and close big gaps quickly, but that’s not the case anymore. I don’t know who that’s on but it needs to be addressed quickly in recruiting. Speed kills and my goodness, we’re getting killed.

[BeauFoster]

Anyone who puts even 1% of blame for last nights loss on Chase is blind and dumb.

[GlassOnion]

It's 2004 again.... You got one side who backs the current folks regardless of the bad situation and you have the folks that are concerned and want a complete change and you also have the folks who don't care if the current regime stays or go they just want things fixed. In 2004 Moore took a trip to WV and fixed some things. I've said it in another post that I don't think we need a total revamping of our offense. I think we just need to be smarter with what we are doing (while adding in some new things - defense might be a diff story). If the current players can't do those things (or aren't up to App State standards...get them there or start recruiting better). The competition is getting better. They set their sights on us and they caught us. We can either take some hard looks or start getting used to being middle of the pack. Not sure how long the program can last loosing to Texas st, JMU, and coastal.... We haven't even played Marshall and GaSouth yet. While other teams look to be getting better as the year goes we look to be stagnant of going backwards. Injuries, I can understand. I get it..... But if you know you have a player who isn't that good you scheme so you can protect him. I do it all the time with my soccer teams. Yes I know soccer and football aren't the same but it can be done on the gridiron as well. I do NOT want App State to become the poster child for, "Oh how the mighty have fallen".

Closer to 2010/2011 I'd think. Dale Jones defense getting embarrassed, the crowd that would support the status quo no matter what, and those pushing for the inevitable change hopefully before all that was built was lost.

2004 at least had an offense, an identity, and they never let someone come into The Rock and embarrass them. Not one game.

[WataugaMan]

Penalties and lack of discipline has become a hallmark of our team every single week.

I don't need to hear the presser. We just need to replay the same one from JMU and Texas State- "gotta give ----- credit for the win, coach ----- did a great job against us, this loss is on me and the coaches, we need to do a better job preparing the team, our guys played hard but we didn't make the plays. We will come back home, get back to work and prepare for..."

[311neers]

clark supporters pretty quiet. safe to say collectively we aren’t pleased with where we are heading now. I think he’s got 1 more year to turn it around w “his qb” (burger) and then reassess. Buyout drops to $3M after december 2022. Drops to $1M after december 2024. Those are both attainable numbers.

[yosef69]

If we don’t make a bowl I could see gillin pulling the trigger. Can’t sell tickets when the team is bad.

[asunate]

1-3 against teams that currently have winning records. Hail Mary away from being 0-4.

3-4 against FBS opponents

3-6 in last 9 FBS game. 3-6.... We all know Bill Parcells is famous for saying "we are what our record says we are". 3-6 against last 9 FBS opponents. In order to move forward, one has to be honest with themselves. This program is not the same program as 2018/2019. There weren't 6 losses combined in two seasons. This program is 3-6 (one of those wins is Hail Mary)

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

clark supporters pretty quiet. safe to say we aren’t pleased with where we are heading now. I think he’s got 1 more year to turn it around w “his qb” (burger) and then reassess. Buyout drops to $3M after december 2022. Drops to $1M after december 2024. Those are both attainable numbers.

They allow their loyalty to the program, and Clark’s ties to App, blind them from acknowledging that we have been in a decline since he took over. “The sun belt got better,” isn’t a good excuse when we’ve constantly (in every big game) start flat, and then make stupid coaching mistakes.

Penalties, turnovers, and losses have trended higher than they were before Clark, it’s clear as day he’s made this program worse. He had no qualifications for being a head coach other than we were terrified of getting left at the alter again. Acknowledging the truth is not being a bad fan, it’s simply accepting that something is disastrously wrong with where this team is at. The same things that cost us in his first lost against Marshall kill us now.

Let me ask the sycophants, how often have we been ranked the last 4 years? How often have you seen us run the exact same play on 4th down and get blown in this season? What’s our record against UL the past 3 seasons? Against Coastal? Is this team any less talented than the ‘18 & ‘19 teams?

[appstate24]

Anyone who puts even 1% of blame for last nights loss on Chase is blind and dumb.

Agree 10000%. It’s downright EMBARRASSING to see these morons not only blaming Chase on social media, but actually tagging him in the posts. It’s disgusting.

There is a lot of things to question and even some people to blame…CHASE BRICE AIN’T ONE OF THEM. Chase gives every ounce of blood, sweat, and tears every game. Like someone said before, his arm talent is something we haven’t seen on the mountain in a while, and may not see for a while after he’s gone. I’m scared to death of how this season would have looked without Chase leading the charge.

GO APPS!!

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

If we don’t make a bowl I could see gillin pulling the trigger. Can’t sell tickets when the team is bad.

That might be what hurts the most. Fan engagement and excitement has been at an all time high, and look how it’s been treated.

[diehardapp18]

My god Chase was phenomenal except for the PIC where he got hit. He dropped dimes all night and even made huge runs. He extended plays that seemed dead. He plays his tail off.

He is pretty clearly our best and most consistent player. His ability to avoid pressure is also very very underrated.

[appstate5]

91 - I'm going to surprise you - I put this lose on two things - terrible offensive play-calling on crucial plays and absolutely horrible 3rd and long defense - the players are giving all they've got but honestly, how many times do you call a run up the middle when it hasn't worked in forever and 3rd and long on defense - I really have no clue what's going on ---

I want to know who is doing the play-calling??!! The stubbornness sure makes it look like Clark, not Barbay. Before we bash the OC, it would be nice to know if his hands are tied.

[BambooRdApp]

Anyone who puts even 1% of blame for last nights loss on Chase is blind and dumb.

Agree 10000%. It’s downright EMBARRASSING to see these morons not only blaming Chase on social media, but actually tagging him in the posts. It’s disgusting.

There is a lot of things to question and even some people to blame…CHASE BRICE AIN’T ONE OF THEM. Chase gives every ounce of blood, sweat, and tears every game. Like someone said before, his arm talent is something we haven’t seen on the mountain in a while, and may not see for a while after he’s gone. I’m scared to death of how this season would have looked without Chase leading the charge.

GO APPS!!

What's even more embarrassing is some of our fans in the stands and commentary in the 1st half last night in section 306/307. Actually wished they would have went over to CCU side and sat on the empty seats where their season ticket holders sit as the seats were empty.

[appchicago]

clark supporters pretty quiet. safe to say we aren’t pleased with where we are heading now. I think he’s got 1 more year w “his qb” and then reassess. Buyout drops to $3M after december 2022. Drops to $1M after december 2024. Those are both attainable numbers.

Those are massive numbers for us. Money is a problem. I would be incredibly pissed if a donor steps forward with $3M to fire a coach, since (with the exception of a few very generous individuals) we don't get gifts like that for anything else.

And then we have to pay the next guy. A look at the US News database tells me that the coaches of the following teams make more than Clark: Rice, WKU, Coastal, MTSU, Nevada, Toledo, Utah State, UConn, Fresno State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Liberty, etc. ECU pays 2.5 times what we do. So do UTSA and USF.

I get the frustration, but I don't know where the money is coming from. But heck, if now's the time that everyone wants to finally dust off their wallets, pay the man and let's move on.

I also think it's scapegoating, to an extent. Our fanbase does not know how to weather a down year. That's not a judgment. There's no reason we SHOULD be satisfied with mediocrity. But in an improved Sun Belt, at a school with amazing tradition and history, but not every built-in advantage (we don't have limitless money, and while our location is a draw for some, it's not for everyone), and a team that is CAPABLE of winning practically every game we're in, I just don't know that I can draw a clear line to firing a dedicated HC with some bright spots on his resume before we try other changes.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

We knew going into this season that our defense was young and could struggle. We didn’t know what to expect out of our passing game with an all new crew and I’ve been pleasantly surprised with how that has gone. The real head scratcher is our run game. We are used to imposing our will against our opponents and we returned almost our entire offensive line and had two preseason all conference backs returning. That performance last night was weak and for the most part this season, has been weak. You fix the run game and you help the defense. Last night, our defense gave up 35 which may seem a lot but considering how long they were on the field against a Grayson McCall led offense and they really did not do all that bad. This loss lies solely on our inability to run the ball. What’s troubling is that Clark is a former offensive lineman and Oline coach. If anyone can fix it, you’d think it would be him.

[yosef69]

clark supporters pretty quiet. safe to say we aren’t pleased with where we are heading now. I think he’s got 1 more year w “his qb” and then reassess. Buyout drops to $3M after december 2022. Drops to $1M after december 2024. Those are both attainable numbers.

Those are massive numbers for us. Money is a problem. I would be incredibly pissed if a donor steps forward with $3M to fire a coach, since (with the exception of a few very generous individuals) we don't get gifts like that for anything else.

And then we have to pay the next guy. A look at the US News database tells me that the coaches of the following teams make more than Clark: Rice, WKU, Coastal, MTSU, Nevada, Toledo, Utah State, UConn, Fresno State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Liberty, etc. ECU pays 2.5 times what we do. So do UTSA and USF.

I get the frustration, but I don't know where the money is coming from. But heck, if now's the time that everyone wants to finally dust off their wallets, pay the man and let's move on.

I also think it's scapegoating, to an extent. Our fanbase does not know how to weather a down year. That's not a judgment. There's no reason we SHOULD be satisfied with mediocrity. But in an improved Sun Belt, at a school with amazing tradition and history, but not every built-in advantage (we don't have limitless money, and while our location is a draw for some, it's not for everyone), and a team that is CAPABLE of winning practically every game we're in, I just don't know that I can draw a clear line to firing a dedicated HC with some bright spots on his resume before we try other changes.

I could handle a downturn if most, if not all of the losses come down to idiotic coaching decisions. But it’s not a talent issue. Can’t win at TAMU and lose at TXST in the same year if it’s a talent issue.

[Rekdiver]

The appalling lack of creativity in the run game is glaring. THAT person has to change or go.

[MrCraig]

If we don’t make a bowl I could see gillin pulling the trigger. Can’t sell tickets when the team is bad.

That might be what hurts the most. Fan engagement and excitement has been at an all time high, and look how it’s been treated.

It is absolutely what what hurts the most to me. After those first 3 games, I thought we were in for an all-time season. Instead, we've squandered probably the most fan engagement and media coverage we've ever had by being aggressively mediocre.