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[appst1992]

By design or not, I just don't get it. And we've done that "by design" in the past and it has always bitten us. If he's capable to kick it thru the end zone, then in my opinion do it....do it every time. Our special teams play, historically speaking, has not been good enough to play a strategy game with the opponent by eliciting a decision.

Saturday may have been by design, but every time they fielded the kick, our coverage team wasn't within 15-20 yards of him. Just thankful their strategy was fair catch.

How much film did you want of UNC return game prior? Did you know if the off side returner got it kicked to him, they fair caught it the last 3 years on every try but one? Oh, and that position (not always the same player) also has had on average 1.5 fumbles per season. You did all that research to come up with your conclusion and how stupid our coaching staff is, right?

It was by design to keep the ball out of an elite athletes hands and perhaps get the funny shaped ball to bounce a funny way.

Always love the attacking, passive aggressive responses on this board. I never said one thing about our coaching staff. In fact I said, in my opinion. And yes, I'm entitled to that opinion.

[AppSt94]

Not an App State grad here but a fan of anyone playing UNC. And an admirer of the Apps since I interviewed Jerry Moore way back when...

Wondering:

AppSt ran the ball three times in the first OT, very effectively. They didn't attempt a pass.
UNC gets a TD in the 2nd OT, so App St knows they have four downs to get 10 yards.
They open the 2nd OT with a wheel route to the tight end. Why??? Run the ball, get ahead of the chains, you have four downs. That seemed like very strange play calling to me. Your QB appears to be a good runner but not the most accurate passer at this early point in his App tenure.

Another thing: In the last minute of regulation, App calls a timeout with UNC facing second and 20. I questioned this the second I saw it. You're facing Drake Maye, not some ordinary QB. On third and 10 or 15, yes, you do call a timeout to try to get the ball back, but not prior to second down. That time out almost came back to bite App St, as UNC would probably not have had time to get into FG range without that App time out. But it did provide us the chance to see an incredible duck hook.

Any thoughts?

Can’t speak to points 1&3 other the answer to the first question is what was Carolina’s alignment.

As for Joey’s accuracy, I think that it is less accuracy and more decision making. Several of those throws were Ill advised into tight coverage. But he still gave his guy a chance to get it, they just made a play.

[Saint3333]

The timeout call IMO should have been made if App had stopped them after 2nd down not 1st.

As for the play calls in the 2OT, hindsight is a luxury you and I have knowing the results. It was an aggressive call that didn't pan out and knowing we had four downs to convert probably seemed like it was worth the risk.

[TheMoody1]

Not an App State grad here but a fan of anyone playing UNC. And an admirer of the Apps since I interviewed Jerry Moore way back when...

Wondering:

AppSt ran the ball three times in the first OT, very effectively. They didn't attempt a pass.
UNC gets a TD in the 2nd OT, so App St knows they have four downs to get 10 yards.
They open the 2nd OT with a wheel route to the tight end. Why??? Run the ball, get ahead of the chains, you have four downs. That seemed like very strange play calling to me. Your QB appears to be a good runner but not the most accurate passer at this early point in his App tenure.

Another thing: In the last minute of regulation, App calls a timeout with UNC facing second and 20. I questioned this the second I saw it. You're facing Drake Maye, not some ordinary QB. On third and 10 or 15, yes, you do call a timeout to try to get the ball back, but not prior to second down. That time out almost came back to bite App St, as UNC would probably not have had time to get into FG range without that App time out. But it did provide us the chance to see an incredible duck hook.

Any thoughts?

Coaching is easy in hind sight?

[hapapp]

I'm assuming we opened the 2nd OT with a pass, thinking that UNC would be expecting a run. The problem with passing on first down is always the danger of an INC pass putting you behind the chains. Of course, he hits the pass, then makes the defense uncertain how we plan to attack. It is always easy to go back and second guess a failed execution. But, its also a fair point to ask if a run there is a better play given the previous OT possession.

On the time out, I wondered why at that point. I realize why it was called but I would agree do it on third and long if that was the situation.

[MrCraig]

Not an App State grad here but a fan of anyone playing UNC. And an admirer of the Apps since I interviewed Jerry Moore way back when...

Wondering:

AppSt ran the ball three times in the first OT, very effectively. They didn't attempt a pass.
UNC gets a TD in the 2nd OT, so App St knows they have four downs to get 10 yards.
They open the 2nd OT with a wheel route to the tight end. Why??? Run the ball, get ahead of the chains, you have four downs. That seemed like very strange play calling to me. Your QB appears to be a good runner but not the most accurate passer at this early point in his App tenure.

Another thing: In the last minute of regulation, App calls a timeout with UNC facing second and 20. I questioned this the second I saw it. You're facing Drake Maye, not some ordinary QB. On third and 10 or 15, yes, you do call a timeout to try to get the ball back, but not prior to second down. That time out almost came back to bite App St, as UNC would probably not have had time to get into FG range without that App time out. But it did provide us the chance to see an incredible duck hook.

Any thoughts?

You may not be an App graduate, but you are already well on the road to being an App State fan. The next step is acceptance.

[AppStateNews]

Always love the people that ask a question and they don't like the answer, then say "but but but but.... I'm taking my ball and going home now!"

Why ask the question if the answer isn't going to change your mind on your opinion? You do know when people ask questions, people are going to answer, right? Not anybody's problem if you don't like the answer and still argue against said answer even with facts.

But, if it's just your opinion, do you think having the knowledge that I posted would change your opinion? Because that's the stuff the staff has to make their opinions..

[AtlAppMan]

I believe the thinking was if we take timeout on 2nd down AND they don't get many yards we take another timeout and stop them on 3rd down, we have a shot at our own field goal. We didn't stop them so point is mute.

SC was hoping his defense would make the stops.

[appst1992]

Always love the people that ask a question and they don't like the answer, then say "but but but but.... I'm taking my ball and going home now!"

Why ask the question if the answer isn't going to change your mind on your opinion? You do know when people ask questions, people are going to answer, right? Not anybody's problem if you don't like the answer and still argue against said answer even with facts.

But, if it's just your opinion, do you think having the knowledge that I posted would change your opinion? Because that's the stuff the staff has to make their opinions..

LOL.. I didn't ask a question! But no, even having the knowledge you posted would not change my opinion. I would still feel a lot better if we kicked the ball into the end zone.

[appgrad95&97]

Always love the people that ask a question and they don't like the answer, then say "but but but but.... I'm taking my ball and going home now!"

Why ask the question if the answer isn't going to change your mind on your opinion? You do know when people ask questions, people are going to answer, right? Not anybody's problem if you don't like the answer and still argue against said answer even with facts.

But, if it's just your opinion, do you think having the knowledge that I posted would change your opinion? Because that's the stuff the staff has to make their opinions..

How about this, you acknowledge that we are 4-9 against our last 13 FBS opponents? Would it kill you to show some grace to people who don't agree with you?

[AppinVA]

I believe the thinking was if we take timeout on 2nd down AND they don't get many yards we take another timeout and stop them on 3rd down, we have a shot at our own field goal. We didn't stop them so point is mute.

SC was hoping his defense would make the stops.

And I have no problem with that. It showed he had faith in the defense to make a play. The guy on the other side is a Heisman candidate, but despite that don’t play scared.

[ASU3432Mi]

Has anyone on here mentioned the classless Tarhole player who came across the field to taunt our fans post game?

[TheMoody1]

Has anyone on here mentioned the classless Tarhole player who came across the field to taunt our fans post game?

I believe it was this dude.

https://goheels.com/sports/football/ros ... ones/24279

[RaleighApp27609]

Has anyone on here mentioned the classless Tarhole player who came across the field to taunt our fans post game?

My thinking would be for him to do that after the game, App must have got under his skin during the game. Who knows what it was: App State's on-field performance (way better than expected for most) or the large App State contingent that showed up in Chapel Hill.

[ASUTodd]

Has anyone on here mentioned the classless Tarhole player who came across the field to taunt our fans post game?

I believe it was this dude.

https://goheels.com/sports/football/ros ... ones/24279

So I noticed that Dashaun Davis kept doing this under his chin wave at the fans/players after he made a big play (like a na-na-na-boo-boo type thing). He also did it toward the UNC players/sideline after he caught a pass at the beginning of the game. He did it as well after his touchdown. I don't remember if I saw him doing it anymore or not..... Im all for celebrations but I was scared he was going to get a flag.

[AppStateNews]

Always love the people that ask a question and they don't like the answer, then say "but but but but.... I'm taking my ball and going home now!"

Why ask the question if the answer isn't going to change your mind on your opinion? You do know when people ask questions, people are going to answer, right? Not anybody's problem if you don't like the answer and still argue against said answer even with facts.

But, if it's just your opinion, do you think having the knowledge that I posted would change your opinion? Because that's the stuff the staff has to make their opinions..

How about this, you acknowledge that we are 4-9 against our last 13 FBS opponents? Would it kill you to show some grace to people who don't agree with you?

Please point where I've never acknowledged that.

So, when people ask questions I am supposed to lie with my answer just so I can have grace for peoples expected answer? That doesn't make sense....

[AppStateNews]

Always love the people that ask a question and they don't like the answer, then say "but but but but.... I'm taking my ball and going home now!"

Why ask the question if the answer isn't going to change your mind on your opinion? You do know when people ask questions, people are going to answer, right? Not anybody's problem if you don't like the answer and still argue against said answer even with facts.

But, if it's just your opinion, do you think having the knowledge that I posted would change your opinion? Because that's the stuff the staff has to make their opinions..

LOL.. I didn't ask a question! But no, even having the knowledge you posted would not change my opinion. I would still feel a lot better if we kicked the ball into the end zone.

Fair. I thought your initials post was a question that was answered and challenged. My mistake.

Ok, if that's still your preference with those known facts, does your mind change with these facts? UNC primary kick returner has returned a ball he's caught 5+ yards deep further than he's returned balls within the 5 to the goal line?

To kick the ball out of the end zone requires a low drive. If it's mis-touched by even a centimeter, it may land at the 5. It's a high risk, high reward type of kick. When a teams tendencies don't require the high risk, high reward there is zero reason to do it. If a team is either really good at returns or always returns it no matter what, it makes sense. When a team more often than not rarely returns it in certain situations, it doesn't make sense to not use that certain situation.

[Stonewall]

Our touchdown dances were aimed at their fans and in my opinion , very lame. But they are kids and I really don't see the harm just get better moves .And win the game.

[Black Saturday]

Tez

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... f7c68&ei=6

[MrCraig]

Has anyone on here mentioned the classless Tarhole player who came across the field to taunt our fans post game?

My thinking would be for him to do that after the game, App must have got under his skin during the game. Who knows what it was: App State's on-field performance (way better than expected for most) or the large App State contingent that showed up in Chapel Hill.

That's so weird that he would feel the need to do that considering none of the pressure was on App State and this was App's Super Bowl and little ol' Appy State should be glad to be there and games like that don't even matter in the big college football picture and... well, you get the point.