Is this the future?

[bcoach]

I wonder if AE just carried us for 4 years. We've gone downhill since.

How do you explain good seasons from '10-'12?

How do you explain good?? So Con??
I describe good as in how we do in the playoffs. We've been manhandled in them.

And now we are being manhandled by nobodies in the regular season.

[Yosef84]

Have we all considered that since the three teams that beat us are a combined 10-0, maybe they were all just better than we were expecting, and things could turn around?

Losing to Montana is not the end of the world. The other two are the kind of teams we used to pull our starters to keep from running the score up.

No they aren't. The other two USED TO BE the kinds of teams we used to blow up with backups. It's hard for me to make the mental switch too, but CSU is not the cupcake that they were a few years ago. They have been trending up and this year they are a good team. A&T is the same! I'm not saying that they are GREAT teams or that we shouldn't have won those games. We gave the games away on errors, penalties and blown plays. What I am saying is that these teams are more like the Furmans, Northern Arizona, SCSU, and McNeese St. teams that gained our respect. We don't have several years of success to point at in their case, but these are solid teams....no longer bottom dwellers.

App has some things to fix. No doubt about it! But, those things were there to fix regardless of who we hired as the head coach. They weren't going to get fixed with a single recruiting class and a pep talk. I think Satterfield deserves more than four games to climb his learning curve, but he will climb.

[Deano]

Have we all considered that since the three teams that beat us are a combined 10-0, maybe they were all just better than we were expecting, and things could turn around?

Losing to Montana is not the end of the world. The other two are the kind of teams we used to pull our starters to keep from running the score up.

No they aren't. The other two USED TO BE the kinds of teams we used to blow up with backups. It's hard for me to make the mental switch too, but CSU is not the cupcake that they were a few years ago. They have been trending up and this year they are a good team. A&T is the same! I'm not saying that they are GREAT teams or that we shouldn't have won those games. We gave the games away on errors, penalties and blown plays. What I am saying is that these teams are more like the Furmans, Northern Arizona, SCSU, and McNeese St. teams that gained our respect. We don't have several years of success to point at in their case, but these are solid teams....no longer bottom dwellers.

App has some things to fix. No doubt about it! But, those things were there to fix regardless of who we hired as the head coach. They weren't going to get fixed with a single recruiting class and a pep talk. I think Satterfield deserves more than four games to climb his learning curve, but he will climb.

I agree with you Yosef84, I just don't understand this "sky is falling" mentality that alot of people are showing on here and AppFan. The world is not ending, and hearing people say things like "I am not spending my money anymore on tickets" or "We should have done this or that" doesn't help anything. I understand everyone is frustrated. We have enjoyed many years of success, more success than most programs out there. I think along the way we got a little spoiled. Right now the guys need leadership and reassurance and they need focus. Things that most of us can't give them because we are not part of the coaching staff. But what we can give them, is to change our attitude on these boards and show up for every game cheering our butts off and showing our pride.

Just my two cents.

[WataugaMan]

"Some after the game were saying WCU is our only win and to be honest I don't think any game is a gimme right now for us."

With the way things are now that "jug" will be in Culloweed once we move to FBS.

[GoAppsGo92]

Have we all considered that since the three teams that beat us are a combined 10-0, maybe they were all just better than we were expecting, and things could turn around?

Losing to Montana is not the end of the world. The other two are the kind of teams we used to pull our starters to keep from running the score up.

We have been sliding for the last 4 years, so we can't say this is the new staff's fault. Chuck South beat El Cid and us. A&T is for real in FCS as well, both undefeated. What happened while most were not looking is that we were falling hard and masking that fact with weak opponents, including those in the SoCon. Now we have losses against three teams with a combined record of 13-1, two of them close games and we want to ride the new guy out on a rail for inheriting a team that would have done no better under the previous coach.

[GoAppsGo92]

I can't see another win for this team this year. Just my opinion, but the team doesn't appear to have the character and the coaches don't have the ability to change the dismal effort and play calling we have witnessed to this point. If we lose the next one, we will lose out, IMO. And UGA will be national embarrassment. We will be forced to asked them to not stop the clock in the fourth quarter.
There have been quite a few of us for years complaining about the lack of focus on the line recruits on both sides. We looked so small last night, especially on D, and we were just dominated agin. This is about 5 straight years of continual decline on the line play and recruitment and it started showing up in the playoffs with arse whippings at home by CAA teams.

Like Virginia Tech? El Cid last year? Ill State? Our problem is not play calling. It's execution and being physically beat by superior lines.

[GoAppsGo92]

I wonder if AE just carried us for 4 years. We've gone downhill since.

How do you explain good seasons from '10-'12?

How do you explain good?? So Con??
I describe good as in how we do in the playoffs. We've been manhandled in them.

And now we are being manhandled by nobodies in the regular season.

Which was going to happen no matter who coached, including if you were on the sidelines. You can't fix what is wrong with this team. You have to recruit you way out of it.

[AppRy]

I can't believe some of you are calling for Satterfield to be gone (well I can but it's ridiculous.) this is a guy 4 games into a job he's never held. I think everyone, including me, discounted the difficulty in transitioning to HC. Especially when keeping some of the play calling duties. The head coach is a tough job and while I don't agree with many of his decisions I do think that he has to learn more on the job. The biggest question for me is can we see whether or not he's growing and learning from the mistakes that are made or keeping up with the same poor decisions. You can't know that after 4 games. And as has already been said our offensive and defensive line talent/size is lacking compared to some the teams we have played. How about we give it some time to see if this very young team and very young coach can learn and grow together

[Yosef84]

AppRy,
You might want to edit your post unless you meant to give Coach Satterfield a new nickname. LOL I hope that this is a result of using voice recognition on your smart phone to type your post.

[PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY]

"Bryant is going to be great at QB ...."

imop..and others watching, his arm is not strong...several passes under thrown where receiver had to wait on ball...im sure he's a good guy but im not impressed by either qb's arms...

like i said before, most on here havent played a lick of ball and have no coaching cred but the 3&1 and then 4&1 pass was a cluster...you need to have a big body forging ahead...we dont have it...or for some reason don't think we need it...which is a mistake! i think a lot of seniors might be going thru the motions knowing they arent playing for anything worth being motivated...or something. early in the year people were talking about going undefeated and looking at georgia as our bowl game...if people dont start doing their jobs...players and coaches, georgia will beat us badly and could leave us limping into the western game and spier would love to take that jug to cullowhee for keeps...and that would be the biggest embarrassment of the season...and history of asu football. im positive most of the time and i support the team but this is frickin re-effin-diculous!

[strongwxnc]

I could not agree more. I thought it was a good game yesterday against two even matched teams. I hate this holy than attitude fans have. Every team straps it off just like everyone else. CSU might be making a run at the big south title and playing in the playoffs. Either way, I hate to lose. I FREAKING hate it. But the tape of this game should provide the staff with a great learning tools as the boys in black traverse this season.

Have we all considered that since the three teams that beat us are a combined 10-0, maybe they were all just better than we were expecting, and things could turn around?

[AppRy]

AppRy,
You might want to edit your post unless you meant to give Coach Satterfield a new nickname. LOL I hope that this is a result of using voice recognition on your smart phone to type your post.

Autocorrect with a baby in your arms = a need to better proof read

[Seattleapp]

I wonder if AE just carried us for 4 years. We've gone downhill since.

How do you explain good seasons from '10-'12?

I sure remember you being front and center railing on Jerry Moore between those times.

[Appstate_SunBelt]

Have we all considered that since the three teams that beat us are a combined 10-0, maybe they were all just better than we were expecting, and things could turn around?

Losing to Montana is not the end of the world. The other two are the kind of teams we used to pull our starters to keep from running the score up.

We have been sliding for the last 4 years, so we can't say this is the new staff's fault. Chuck South beat El Cid and us. A&T is for real in FCS as well, both undefeated. What happened while most were not looking is that we were falling hard and masking that fact with weak opponents, including those in the SoCon. Now we have losses against three teams with a combined record of 13-1, two of them close games and we want to ride the new guy out on a rail for inheriting a team that would have done no better under the previous coach.

Yes we have a little bit and the teams we have played are better. Some of this IS NOT Scott's fault. Some is. I think it is still early but our entire team is not playing hard and does not "Always Attack". Makes me wonder if they have not bought in to Satterfield and they think what is going on is just not right. Maybe they aren't buying in? We will find out for sure if several of them transfer after the fall. I hope they don't. We will also see if we lose 3 or more of our verbal commits.

The problem with the CSU and A&T games for me is that why didn't we offer most of their studs? Do you not think that had Moore and Satterfield's staffs had offered we would not have gotten them? We have better everything than those programs and the fact two FCS teams with no history are passing us is not good. We need to move to FBS but right now we have been passed by FCS teams who should not pass us at this point. That's my concern. Lack of talent on the OL/DL is not Scott's fault but he needs to announce Kam as the guy and go all in with him as well as do a better job of managing games. I don't want him gone yet but if he doesn't turn things around and show this team getting better as the season goes on, finishes with 2 wins this year, and then goes 1-11 or 0-12 next year I want him gone. If we rebound and he goes 7-5 this year and then at least wins 4-5 next year with a strong finish to the year then I say 2015 should be a great year and let that year determine his fate. If he wins 7 or more in 2015 we stick with him but if he has a losing year that season then we move on. It's still early but the early returns aren't good and the pressure is there to win.

[bcoach]

I wonder if AE just carried us for 4 years. We've gone downhill since.

How do you explain good seasons from '10-'12?

How do you explain good?? So Con??
I describe good as in how we do in the playoffs. We've been manhandled in them.

And now we are being manhandled by nobodies in the regular season.

Which was going to happen no matter who coached, including if you were on the sidelines. You can't fix what is wrong with this team. You have to recruit you way out of it.

Then how do you explain the fact that we have been winning conference titles with the exact same type players. I think some people forget AE was only here 4 years. Our problem is at least 75% coaching.

[Yosef84]

Our problem is at least 75% coaching.

and 94% of all statistics are made up....99.5% on when posted on message boards.

Sorry, BCoach. I couldn't resist.

[bcoach]

Our problem is at least 75% coaching.

and 94% of all statistics are made up....99.5% on when posted on message boards.

Sorry, BCoach. I couldn't resist.

Thanks. That is the first time I have laughed since 3:30 yesterday

[GoAppsGo92]

[/quote]
Then how do you explain the fact that we have been winning conference titles with the exact same type players. I think some people forget AE was only here 4 years. Our problem is at least 75% coaching.[/quote]

These guys could still go 7-4 this year in the SoCon I see unfolding this year... everybody except Georgia looks beatable to me this year. That's how I explain it. Every time we play against superior line play, we have been whipped since 2009... and the only reason we survived those games from 2006-2008 is because our offense walked on water.

[Appstate_SunBelt]

Then how do you explain the fact that we have been winning conference titles with the exact same type players. I think some people forget AE was only here 4 years. Our problem is at least 75% coaching.[/quote]

These guys could still go 7-4 this year in the SoCon I see unfolding this year... everybody except Georgia looks beatable to me this year. That's how I explain it. Every time we play against superior line play, we have been whipped since 2009... and the only reason we survived those games from 2006-2008 is because our offense walked on water.[/quote]

Even in Shawn's last couple years we did a bad job of getting good OL. It's the hardest position to get bodies but how come CSU, NCAT and others are getting them is my question here? Are folks telling me we can't beat them out for recruits?

It's funny at the folks quickly defending Scott saying none of this is his fault. Not all is but much of it is. They were predicting a great year and saying we would be great this year with him as head coach. Now that he isn't doing well they are defending him completely. Like I said, I don't think it's all his fault but there are many things that are and while I felt there were better coaches out there I don't ever want us to be bad. We will find out in the next three weeks what our coaches and our team is made of. I think it's going to be embarrassing at what our crowd will be in two weeks if we lose to Citadel. This is a must win game for Scott or else you can pretty much say we lose 4 more games for sure, and maybe all of them. All of our games left outside of Georgia are winnable but for the first time ever I can also say that every game on our schedule is one we could very well lose as well.

[Appstate_SunBelt]

Have we all considered that since the three teams that beat us are a combined 10-0, maybe they were all just better than we were expecting, and things could turn around?

Losing to Montana is not the end of the world. The other two are the kind of teams we used to pull our starters to keep from running the score up.

No they aren't. The other two USED TO BE the kinds of teams we used to blow up with backups. It's hard for me to make the mental switch too, but CSU is not the cupcake that they were a few years ago. They have been trending up and this year they are a good team. A&T is the same! I'm not saying that they are GREAT teams or that we shouldn't have won those games. We gave the games away on errors, penalties and blown plays. What I am saying is that these teams are more like the Furmans, Northern Arizona, SCSU, and McNeese St. teams that gained our respect. We don't have several years of success to point at in their case, but these are solid teams....no longer bottom dwellers.

App has some things to fix. No doubt about it! But, those things were there to fix regardless of who we hired as the head coach. They weren't going to get fixed with a single recruiting class and a pep talk. I think Satterfield deserves more than four games to climb his learning curve, but he will climb.

How long should he have is the question? I don't want him fired right now, obviously. I do think we have to have a fair amount of time in our minds. I would personally like to see some improvements on the line next year and then 2015 we should at least compete and be top three in the SBC. If we have a losing record two years in a row (I'm including this year because we should not have a losing record since we did return 16 starters and the entire OL from an 8 win team) I do think it's time to quickly turn the page. With me saying give him two years how long do you think we should? Two, three, or do you want to see four losing seasons before you would turn the page?