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AppTF39
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by AppTF39 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:49 am
Mike Kent was an incredible S&C coach. Look no further than the '09 vs '11 ECU game. In 2009, our superior conditioning wore down the Pirate's in the hot Greenville sun. We were perhaps 1 minute away from upsetting ECU at Dowdy. We lost him to Colorado State the following year and the conditioning battle in the hot Greenville sun in 2011 went the opposite way. We started hot and were absolutely worn down in the fourth quarter.
Jeff Dillman was the S&C coach leading up to the '09 season. One of his assistants was given the "interim" title and helped lead the team to the national semi's.
Coach Kent arrived in December of 09' and left in Jan. 2012.
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by Appsolutely » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:15 am
bcoach wrote:PhillyApp1 wrote:Appsolutely wrote:t4pizza wrote:"I tried to say after Montana game how much of a joke the strength program was for the football team. The physicality of both lines is shining through now. Small guys. Not tough. And weight room hasn't helped them"
This is the most telling point to me, we don't seem to be in the same kind of condition as previous teams. We don't appear to be as strong or as in shape as our previous teams. Everyone wants to keep saying the OL recruiting issues, but those should have plagued the team 2-3 years ago and we still won conference titles 2 of those years and went to the playoffs in all of them. The last miss on OL recruiting was the 09 class where we only signed Storm Moore and lost him before the season. That is a terrible Ol recruiting but interestingly enough, there were 3 future NFL players in that class (Cadet, Kimbrough, McCray). At best any Ol from that class would be a 5th year senior and more than likely would be gone by now anyway. The next class we signed Barnard, Fisher, Jones, Lam, Corban and Bostick. I'm sorry but that is not a bad OL signing class. All had good size and high school careers. Then we signed Counts, Evans and Henderson of which only one has seen any significant action. The 12 class had Collmar, Fernandez and Privette and in 13 we added big bodies of Collins and Gossett. Since the 08 and 09 debacles we have recruited good OL in numbers and size. Where we seemed to have failed is in the development of these linemen. The lightest linemen that we recruited over the past 2 years was 273 and the shortest was 6'2". We have the beef, we just need to coach em up. I have heard that it takes longer to really coach an OL in college and usually 2-3 years in the program before you see them on the field in significant ways. With that in mind, our recruiting issues should have resulted in really bad OL play in the two season starting in 2010 and going through 2012, since then we should have had enough beef in the pipeline if we were coaching properly. I'm tired of hearing about the bad recruiting of OL, it did exist but we have weathered that storm and still came out with rings. I place the blame on coaching and development at this stage over recruiting.
That's what happens when you run your program "on the cheap." And that is not a criticism of Kareem Young as much as it is a criticism of an over-riding philosophy of our entire athletic program, when it comes to personnel.
This is not an AD being cheap issue !
Otherwise fund the sports department with all your money.
Get off your horse....the players are NOT doing what they need to do.
It may not be the AD being cheap but it is his job to get the money necessary to run the program at the level we have attained and that is not happening. I know it is difficult to raise money but that is his responsibility do so. If we don't have the money to attract top tier FCS coaches where will we be in FBS? We have a problem in that area plain and simple. Our S&C coach is a nice guy. I like him a lot but he came from IBM with no credentials as a collage coach. What we need are coaches that other schools are trying to steal from us. That has not happened in a long time. Please don't bring up Western as you would have to admit that doesn't count.
Thanks...you said it better, or more clearly, at least, than I did. It is also his responsibility to make sure that there is no "fat" in the athletic administration.
"I’ve always said the program is bigger than me, any one player or any one coach."--Scott Satterfield
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by Appsolutely » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:18 am
Robert Norton wrote:Mike Kent did not leave because of money. Our S&C team has led us to a team as strong as dirty dishwater.
Right...but as you indicate, we sure used his leaving as an opportunity to pay less for our S&C "team." And most of the time you get what you pay for.
"I’ve always said the program is bigger than me, any one player or any one coach."--Scott Satterfield