Charlie Cobb dogs Brownie pregame radio

[luvyosef]

So Charlie wants Brownie to put a happy face on the program.

Charlie Cobb claims to deal in the truth. The fact is Cobb can't handle the truth!

Appalachian State is a world that is surrounded by walls that guard our history and passion for truth. And those walls have to be guarded by men armed with conviction and driven by the courage to expose the truth. Who's gonna do it? Cobb? Beasley?

Steve Brown has a greater responsibility than Cobb can possibly fathom. Cobb weeps over the fact that truth will expose him. He curses people like Steve Brown who stands on principle and ethics.

Most App fans don't have the luxury of knowing what Steve knows. They depend on Steve to tell it like it is and exposing the state of Mountaineer Football, while painful, will ultimately save the program. And Steve's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to Cobb, keeps Mountaineer fans bound together in a state of unity and passion Cobb can't possibly understand.

Cobb doesn't want the truth. Because deep down, in places he won't talk about at alumni council meetings and Yosef Club gatherings, Mountaineer Fans want Steve Brown on that wall. They need Steve Brown on that wall.

Steve lives by words like honor, code, loyalty... he lives by these words because they are the backbone to a life spent defending something exceptional.... Appalachian State University. Cobb uses 'em as a punch line.

Steve doesn't need to spend the effort or time to explain himself to a man who makes a better salary than he deserves off a program Steve has played a part in since 1977. I'd rather Cobb just said thank you to Steve for his part in building this great program and for defending its integrity and then be on his way.

Otherwise, I suggest Cobb get behind that microphone and answer questions honestly. Either way, I don't give a damn that Cobb wants Steve to advance the company line in lieu of telling the truth to the Mountaineer Nation. Exposing the truth is far more important to Steve Brown than belonging to Cobb's inner circle.

Amen! Go App!

[Saint3333]

Alabama football

2003 - 4-9
1993 - 1-12
1984 - 5-6

Any of this look familiar?

Damn Saint, you forgot to state what they did in 1901. :lol:

Just like App every 10 years or so they have a couple of disappointing years.

[bcoach]

Alabama football

2003 - 4-9
1993 - 1-12
1984 - 5-6

Any of this look familiar?

Damn Saint, you forgot to state what they did in 1901.

Just like App every 10 years or so they have a couple of disappointing years.

That was my point. They are at the top and they can maintain that, they come back. They don't go backward.

[Saint3333]

So have we that is my point.

[bcoach]

So have we that is my point.

Yes I agree. That was my original point. We have no disagreement. The point was made that we had to move up or go backward. My point was that is not true. Not arguing the move as " it is a done deal" just saying that if we didn't it does not mean we had to go backward.

[Yosef84]

Friendly discussion. What does that say for Alabama football or Duke Basketball. Can they not maintain a high level without going backwards? This is not a FBS/FCS fight as that is over. just a discussion to get my mind off the game

Fair question. Obviously a few teams seem to remain at the top for long periods. Duke basketball is an example, but even they don't play for the national championship every year....or even make the final four. For Duke, an early exit from the tournament IS A DECLINE, and that is precisely where App has been. They are very good but not always GREAT.

Alabama football is actually a good example of what I'm saying. Once they were dominant, but prior to 2009 & 2012, their most recent SEC championship was 1999. They have had excellent records, but Florida an LSU ruled the SEC until recently. Bala, Georgia and Tennessee were in the mix, but only occassionally came out on top. Of course Bama also had the DuBose years in the 90's which included a 4-7 season in 1997!

One difference though, is that Bama and Duke do NOT have a division above them recruiting from the same pool. They ARE the upper standard. App has been at the top of an aritificial barrier. I know that you aren't a pro-FBS guy, but my reason for wanting to move up is that we are being prevented from achieving our potential by that barrier. When we move up, there are certainly going to be challenges, but at least some of the barriers will be removed.

[yosefederation]

I personally know of three AD jobs that CC has applied for and was not chosen, since 2007. He obviously needs to get better recommendation referrals on his resume list. Those schools didn't want him and we can't get rid of him. bad catch 22 imo.

[GreatAppSt]

I don't know if we have more money or not but if that is a fact then we just don't know how to spend it. If we have the money then I vote we hire a real strength and conditioning coach for one, and a real special teams coach for another. That is not the end of coaching money but it is a good start.

I don't always agree with bcoach but when I do, he gets reppies.

[bcoach]

Friendly discussion. What does that say for Alabama football or Duke Basketball. Can they not maintain a high level without going backwards? This is not a FBS/FCS fight as that is over. just a discussion to get my mind off the game

Fair question. Obviously a few teams seem to remain at the top for long periods. Duke basketball is an example, but even they don't play for the national championship every year....or even make the final four. For Duke, an early exit from the tournament IS A DECLINE, and that is precisely where App has been. They are very good but not always GREAT.

Alabama football is actually a good example of what I'm saying. Once they were dominant, but prior to 2009 & 2012, their most recent SEC championship was 1999. They have had excellent records, but Florida an LSU ruled the SEC until recently. Bala, Georgia and Tennessee were in the mix, but only occassionally came out on top. Of course Bama also had the DuBose years in the 90's which included a 4-7 season in 1997!

One difference though, is that Bama and Duke do NOT have a division above them recruiting from the same pool. They ARE the upper standard. App has been at the top of an aritificial barrier. I know that you aren't a pro-FBS guy, but my reason for wanting to move up is that we are being prevented from achieving our potential by that barrier. When we move up, there are certainly going to be challenges, but at least some of the barriers will be removed.

I understand. I believe that we face a much larger barrier, one that we will not be able to overcome but that is on the verge of the old worn out FCS/FBS argument and I for one understand that is over. My only point is that a high level of most anything can be maintained without having to move forward/higher or backward. Now I will say that to me a high level is not winning a national championship every year but the potential to do so in most years, like Duke. Let's face it, there is no move up for them so they have maintained. Now I do understand where you are coming from. I don't have to like the move to understand it. Good discussion.

[ASUMountaineer]

Anyone else hear it?
He said he wished Brownie would say something positive about the team sometimes....
I love listening to Brownie. He knows his football and calls it like it is no matter whose fault.
Interesting......

I didn't hear it...any chance Cobb was saying it like, "I wish Brownie could say something positive...but, unfortunately the team hasn't given him a reason to?"

[Appsolutely]

Back to the original thread topic for a moment...

We are fortunate to have Brownie as our color analyst. He is knowledgeable, and he bleeds black and gold. More importantly, he demonstrates something which is in short supply these days--honesty. I don't want sugar-coated fluff coming from a homer. I want the truth, even if it hurts.

So, Mr. Cobb can kiss it where the sun don't shine. What he needs to concern himself with is cutting some of the fat from the athletic administration staff so we can stop hiring coaches "on the cheap." Doing things "on the cheap" has been the modus operandi up there for years. It started with Jim Jones, and his legacy continues. Here's one example: our broadcasting team is still using some of the same outdated equipment that was being used when Mike Waddell was up there. And no, I didn't learn that from talking to one of the broadcast crew.

It might also help if Mr. Cobb concentrated on (or found someone who was capable of) bringing in corporate dollars more appropriate for a school and an athletic program of our size. What we have done in that regard is unacceptable and bush league.

So, go off on me if you wish. But do your homework first.

[SpeedkingATL]

I love Brownie and David. Period!

[appgrouch]

Back to the original thread topic for a moment...

We are fortunate to have Brownie as our color analyst. He is knowledgeable, and he bleeds black and gold. More importantly, he demonstrates something which is in short supply these days--honesty. I don't want sugar-coated fluff coming from a homer. I want the truth, even if it hurts.

So, Mr. Cobb can kiss it where the sun don't shine. What he needs to concern himself with is cutting some of the fat from the athletic administration staff so we can stop hiring coaches "on the cheap." Doing things "on the cheap" has been the modus operandi up there for years. It started with Jim Jones, and his legacy continues. Here's one example: our broadcasting team is still using some of the same outdated equipment that was being used when Mike Waddell was up there. And no, I didn't learn that from talking to one of the broadcast crew.

It might also help if Mr. Cobb concentrated on (or found someone who was capable of) bringing in corporate dollars more appropriate for a school and an athletic program of our size. What we have done in that regard is unacceptable and bush league.

So, go off on me if you wish. But do your homework first.

In addition to the outdated equipment, instead of hiring a new PA announcer after Fish left, we have our ticket manager doing the PA instead of at the gates doing the job that he was hired for.

(Not a rant on S White, but on admin)

[AppGrad1]

Anyone else hear it?
He said he wished Brownie would say something positive about the team sometimes....
I love listening to Brownie. He knows his football and calls it like it is no matter whose fault.
Interesting......

I didn't hear it...any chance Cobb was saying it like, "I wish Brownie could say something positive...but, unfortunately the team hasn't given him a reason to?"

Anything is possible. I took it as a shot at Brownie.
There was an uneasy silence for a few seconds after the comment and even the announcer had no comment.
I can't remember if it was DJ or not...

[Appsolutely]

I personally know of three AD jobs that CC has applied for and was not chosen, since 2007. He obviously needs to get better recommendation referrals on his resume list. Those schools didn't want him and we can't get rid of him. bad catch 22 imo.

We seem to get ourselves into that situation repeatedly.

[PhillyApp1]

first of all, anyone who knows CC, knows he is a direct person and LIKES direct people like Steve Brown.
They will work it out.
It is not our issue...they joke with each other, constantly.

Next tpoic

[scatman77]

first of all, anyone who knows CC, knows he is a direct person and LIKES direct people like Steve Brown.
They will work it out.
It is not our issue...they joke with each other, constantly.

Next tpoic

That may be true but regardless of the tone or intent, no one that I know would appreciate being called out over the radio. I've known Brownie since he entered as a freshman and he bleeds black and gold!

[Dmanuhone]

"he bleeds black and gold"


He might want to get that checked.

[skjellyfetti]

Alabama football

2003 - 4-9
1993 - 1-12
1984 - 5-6

Any of this look familiar?

Damn Saint, you forgot to state what they did in 1901.

Just like App every 10 years or so they have a couple of disappointing years.

Well, it was mainly due to getting in their own way with NCAA violations. .

They actually went 9-3-1 in 1993... but they had to forfeit (not vacate) all the games but the bowl game due to playing an ineligible player (Antonio Langham).

They almost received the death penalty in 2002 (as they committed 11 major violations while still on probation).

1984 was the only one not tied to NCAA violations... and it was Ray Perkins... a poor hire following a legend.

[Appsolutely]

"he bleeds black and gold"


He might want to get that checked.

Then I guess I need treatment, as well.