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Re: Cam Peoples
I feel like there needs to be a separation of Cam the person and Cam the football player because they seem to overlap a great deal. Cam is a likable guy. Always has a smile on his face and is always pleasant. His mom is his mom and she is going to protect her cub. I’ve spoken with her and she is a super sweet person. Most of the parents are until you hurt their kid. That being said, Being likable as a person doesn’t automatically translate to being a good football player.
Cam showed great promise his red shirt year but he never got better. That last statement is debatable which is fine but his style of running led to durability issues and he never adjusted. What I have learned is that playing time on gameday is earned in practice through consistency. He wasn’t reliable or trustworthy to get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s why he wasn’t on the field as much as the “experts” thought. Can anyone point to a game where Cam was in during a pivotal moment and he delivered? I can’t but I’m open to acknowledging it if someone can point one out.
I have no idea if staff have spoken ill of him but I can tell you that players can BS fans, coaches to an extent, but they can’t BS their teammates and if you aren’t willing to go to war with your brothers on gameday, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
Cam showed great promise his red shirt year but he never got better. That last statement is debatable which is fine but his style of running led to durability issues and he never adjusted. What I have learned is that playing time on gameday is earned in practice through consistency. He wasn’t reliable or trustworthy to get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s why he wasn’t on the field as much as the “experts” thought. Can anyone point to a game where Cam was in during a pivotal moment and he delivered? I can’t but I’m open to acknowledging it if someone can point one out.
I have no idea if staff have spoken ill of him but I can tell you that players can BS fans, coaches to an extent, but they can’t BS their teammates and if you aren’t willing to go to war with your brothers on gameday, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
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Re: Cam Peoples
Texas A&M comes to mindAppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:33 amI feel like there needs to be a separation of Cam the person and Cam the football player because they seem to overlap a great deal. Cam is a likable guy. Always has a smile on his face and is always pleasant. His mom is his mom and she is going to protect her cub. I’ve spoken with her and she is a super sweet person. Most of the parents are until you hurt their kid. That being said, Being likable as a person doesn’t automatically translate to being a good football player.
Cam showed great promise his red shirt year but he never got better. That last statement is debatable which is fine but his style of running led to durability issues and he never adjusted. What I have learned is that playing time on gameday is earned in practice through consistency. He wasn’t reliable or trustworthy to get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s why he wasn’t on the field as much as the “experts” thought. Can anyone point to a game where Cam was in during a pivotal moment and he delivered? I can’t but I’m open to acknowledging it if someone can point one out.
I have no idea if staff have spoken I’ll of him but I can tell you that players can BS fans, coaches to an extent, but they can’t BS their teammates and if you aren’t willing to go to war with your brothers on gameday, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
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Re: Cam Peoples
I’ll give you that one.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:36 amTexas A&M comes to mindAppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:33 amI feel like there needs to be a separation of Cam the person and Cam the football player because they seem to overlap a great deal. Cam is a likable guy. Always has a smile on his face and is always pleasant. His mom is his mom and she is going to protect her cub. I’ve spoken with her and she is a super sweet person. Most of the parents are until you hurt their kid. That being said, Being likable as a person doesn’t automatically translate to being a good football player.
Cam showed great promise his red shirt year but he never got better. That last statement is debatable which is fine but his style of running led to durability issues and he never adjusted. What I have learned is that playing time on gameday is earned in practice through consistency. He wasn’t reliable or trustworthy to get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s why he wasn’t on the field as much as the “experts” thought. Can anyone point to a game where Cam was in during a pivotal moment and he delivered? I can’t but I’m open to acknowledging it if someone can point one out.
I have no idea if staff have spoken I’ll of him but I can tell you that players can BS fans, coaches to an extent, but they can’t BS their teammates and if you aren’t willing to go to war with your brothers on gameday, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
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Re: Cam Peoples
I can remember the play at Texas A&M. Every possession was crucial for us given the supposed talent disparity and the environment being played. It can be debated whether it was a pivotal as it was in ordinary course of the game....And not at the end of the game for the go ahead score, etc
I do not know the young man. Never met him in person. Good luck to him in the future.
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Re: Cam Peoples
It's a cut throat position as well. GM's are going to look at P5 backs well before G5 backs with injuries that split time. Cam was great for us, but scouts and GM's want the studs from Bama/Uga/OSU... those teams have 8 RB's that will get looks before our starter gets one.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:20 amShame that Cam will alienate himself from the fan base and school for a couple of quick views / short term engagement on social media.
There’s a reason a player of his caliber can’t make it in the CFL or make a practice squad. Great player, has the measurables. Something else must be holding him back. That’s all I will say.
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Re: Cam Peoples
Agreed. But in theory he should have the talent to make a cfl team311neers wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:08 pmIt's a cut throat position as well. GM's are going to look at P5 backs well before G5 backs with injuries that split time. Cam was great for us, but scouts and GM's want the studs from Bama/Uga/OSU... those teams have 8 RB's that will get looks before our starter gets one.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:20 amShame that Cam will alienate himself from the fan base and school for a couple of quick views / short term engagement on social media.
There’s a reason a player of his caliber can’t make it in the CFL or make a practice squad. Great player, has the measurables. Something else must be holding him back. That’s all I will say.
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Re: Cam Peoples
Georgia State is the first game that came to mind of Cam willing us to victory..AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:33 amI feel like there needs to be a separation of Cam the person and Cam the football player because they seem to overlap a great deal. Cam is a likable guy. Always has a smile on his face and is always pleasant. His mom is his mom and she is going to protect her cub. I’ve spoken with her and she is a super sweet person. Most of the parents are until you hurt their kid. That being said, Being likable as a person doesn’t automatically translate to being a good football player.
Cam showed great promise his red shirt year but he never got better. That last statement is debatable which is fine but his style of running led to durability issues and he never adjusted. What I have learned is that playing time on gameday is earned in practice through consistency. He wasn’t reliable or trustworthy to get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s why he wasn’t on the field as much as the “experts” thought. Can anyone point to a game where Cam was in during a pivotal moment and he delivered? I can’t but I’m open to acknowledging it if someone can point one out.
I have no idea if staff have spoken ill of him but I can tell you that players can BS fans, coaches to an extent, but they can’t BS their teammates and if you aren’t willing to go to war with your brothers on gameday, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
I personally was never a big Cam fan, but that was more because his running style led to injuries and fumbles. His fumbles did get better, but he was tough to rely on. I certainly was never a Cam hater though.
If he feels he was done wrong, let him express it. I don't agree with his approach, but that's his right and I won't judge him for it.
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Re: Cam Peoples
Who knows what's really going on. All of this seems a bit silly to me. But I believe that the 2024 graduating class was only the second in forty years to not win a conference title.
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Re: Cam Peoples
A completely reasonable take. Kanye had a smaller role than folks wanted initially as well. He had fumbling issues that he worked hard on improving that resulted in more playing time.704App wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:22 pmGeorgia State is the first game that came to mind of Cam willing us to victory..AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:33 amI feel like there needs to be a separation of Cam the person and Cam the football player because they seem to overlap a great deal. Cam is a likable guy. Always has a smile on his face and is always pleasant. His mom is his mom and she is going to protect her cub. I’ve spoken with her and she is a super sweet person. Most of the parents are until you hurt their kid. That being said, Being likable as a person doesn’t automatically translate to being a good football player.
Cam showed great promise his red shirt year but he never got better. That last statement is debatable which is fine but his style of running led to durability issues and he never adjusted. What I have learned is that playing time on gameday is earned in practice through consistency. He wasn’t reliable or trustworthy to get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s why he wasn’t on the field as much as the “experts” thought. Can anyone point to a game where Cam was in during a pivotal moment and he delivered? I can’t but I’m open to acknowledging it if someone can point one out.
I have no idea if staff have spoken ill of him but I can tell you that players can BS fans, coaches to an extent, but they can’t BS their teammates and if you aren’t willing to go to war with your brothers on gameday, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
I personally was never a big Cam fan, but that was more because his running style led to injuries and fumbles. His fumbles did get better, but he was tough to rely on. I certainly was never a Cam hater though.
If he feels he was done wrong, let him express it. I don't agree with his approach, but that's his right and I won't judge him for it.
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Re: Cam Peoples
I am in the camp that until he actually says something, this could likely be a just talk to get clicks. For all we know, the "trouble" he is talking about is sharing stories about who crapped themselves at a frat party, or couldn't finish running the the Knob. Berger's could also be supporting a close teammate by saying they'll be watching. Could Cam go on blast and share stuff most dudes would keep in the LR, I guess, but I think we wait and see before jumping to possibly unfair conclusions and damage relationships in the process. Cam is still welcome at my tailgate anytime . . .
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Re: Cam Peoples
I think many of us were just disappointed that Cam never really evolved into what we (most of us unrealistic folk, me included probably). If I’m not mistaken his initial size was listed at around 6’4” and 225-230ish. While we had already seen great backs come through App we never had what we thought was a legit P5 type big dude who could run. That long TD in the bowl game had us envisioning games like he had in Myrtle Beach. Many of us were upset when he didn’t play but was shown laughing and enjoying the sidelines. Being upset is on us as we really were not privy to injury info. We also got upset when he didn’t play in huge games. Perhaps it wouldn’t have been so bad had coach not publicly said that Cam had practiced on several occasions. Again, getting mad at him was a “you problem”. I’ll readily admit that hearing that he practiced then didn’t seem play was tough to hear. I’ve never played football but can only imagine how getting hit can really hurt and backs must certainly get dinged up easily. I compared some of this stuff to Cam Newton. Loved the MVP level Cam, had no use for the fashion show look at me Cam. Maybe it’s in the name?
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Re: Cam Peoples
The last thing I worry about with Clark is some unethical. He might have some tough love moments, but I'd never question his underlying character and his love of these players.
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Re: Cam Peoples
At the end of the day, football isn’t about feelings or self-promotion. And it isn’t a personality contest.
It’s all about performance: win or lose, succeed or fail, did you pull your weight?
It’s all about performance: win or lose, succeed or fail, did you pull your weight?
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Re: Cam Peoples
The CFL is a numbers game in that you can only have so many non-Canadiens on the team.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:22 pmAgreed. But in theory he should have the talent to make a cfl team311neers wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:08 pmIt's a cut throat position as well. GM's are going to look at P5 backs well before G5 backs with injuries that split time. Cam was great for us, but scouts and GM's want the studs from Bama/Uga/OSU... those teams have 8 RB's that will get looks before our starter gets one.yosef69 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:20 amShame that Cam will alienate himself from the fan base and school for a couple of quick views / short term engagement on social media.
There’s a reason a player of his caliber can’t make it in the CFL or make a practice squad. Great player, has the measurables. Something else must be holding him back. That’s all I will say.
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Re: Cam Peoples
I am not exactly sure what happened but there was reason to worry about him leaving because his mother and Cam himself made comments that would lead you to believe they were. I appreciate Cam staying and not chasing NIL but he really disappointed me as a senior because he in fact quit on the team. If he has physical evidence to prove something that our coaches did wrong then I am open to seeing it but I am not going to just take his word. He will need to back up any bad claims he has.ericsaid wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:21 amThis is true. Every off-season some shit would come out about Cam being a cancer or Cam transferring or Cam being this or that. I’d imagine his stories will pertain to that.
Personally, I don’t blame him for that part but he’s kind of leaning into making them seem true depending on how he responds to this.
I don’t know why the Burger’s are upset though. Ryan got hurt, Joey came in and threw 40+ touchdowns by the end of the year and is App’s first legitimate NFL prospect at QB, maybe ever. So they can chill on whatever they are chirping about in the comments.
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Re: Cam Peoples
From what I can tell our staff never bashed Cam but they simply told the truth about what he did or did not do. They like him as a person and would never bash him. I think Cam is very likeable and I am disappointed he does not just move on and has to do this for attention. I agree with you about his running style but if he had altered it some he has they physical tools to play in the NFL. He is big, fast, strong, and impressed at times on the field. His issues were lack of pass game production, durability like you said, and a few other things I won't say. The reality is if you get a combine invite and Senior Bowl invite you are suppose to get drafted and make a roster. The NFL and the Senior Bowl missed because of off the field stuff.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:33 amI feel like there needs to be a separation of Cam the person and Cam the football player because they seem to overlap a great deal. Cam is a likable guy. Always has a smile on his face and is always pleasant. His mom is his mom and she is going to protect her cub. I’ve spoken with her and she is a super sweet person. Most of the parents are until you hurt their kid. That being said, Being likable as a person doesn’t automatically translate to being a good football player.
Cam showed great promise his red shirt year but he never got better. That last statement is debatable which is fine but his style of running led to durability issues and he never adjusted. What I have learned is that playing time on gameday is earned in practice through consistency. He wasn’t reliable or trustworthy to get the job done on a consistent basis and that’s why he wasn’t on the field as much as the “experts” thought. Can anyone point to a game where Cam was in during a pivotal moment and he delivered? I can’t but I’m open to acknowledging it if someone can point one out.
I have no idea if staff have spoken ill of him but I can tell you that players can BS fans, coaches to an extent, but they can’t BS their teammates and if you aren’t willing to go to war with your brothers on gameday, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
I was hoping he would mature some and go be a star in Canada with a chance to come back but his career must be over because I can't imagine the NFL, UFL, or CFL giving him a chance if he bashes our coaches. I hope he thinks hard about this and chooses not to throw stones at anyone without physical evidence to back up a claim.
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Re: Cam Peoples
I just watched the video. Cam seems to think being a cancer in the locker room only means your teammates don't like you.. majority of the time, that's not the case. Majority of the time, teammates like the cancer -- and their mentality spreads like cancer -- hence the term.
It's no secret Cam is a "me first" personality. And there's nothing wrong with that... unless it spreads through the locker room.
I have no idea if that is what Senior Bowl scouts were referring to, but I do know a locker room cancer usually is still liked by their teammates and often times voted captains.
Personally, I still think he's trying to get clicks and it's working. He's a good story teller though, so hopefully he doesn't burn too many bridges and he can make some revenue off it!
It's no secret Cam is a "me first" personality. And there's nothing wrong with that... unless it spreads through the locker room.
I have no idea if that is what Senior Bowl scouts were referring to, but I do know a locker room cancer usually is still liked by their teammates and often times voted captains.
Personally, I still think he's trying to get clicks and it's working. He's a good story teller though, so hopefully he doesn't burn too many bridges and he can make some revenue off it!
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Re: Cam Peoples
I am with you on all you said. My biggest disappointment in Cam is that he left the team before the end of the year in 2022 and there were several games he could have absolutely played in that he did not. That alone was a big reason why he did not get drafted. I know our coaches were let down because all the way back in 2019 Shawn Clark and others on staff thought Cam would eventually play his way into a future draft pick.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 1:23 pmI think many of us were just disappointed that Cam never really evolved into what we (most of us unrealistic folk, me included probably). If I’m not mistaken his initial size was listed at around 6’4” and 225-230ish. While we had already seen great backs come through App we never had what we thought was a legit P5 type big dude who could run. That long TD in the bowl game had us envisioning games like he had in Myrtle Beach. Many of us were upset when he didn’t play but was shown laughing and enjoying the sidelines. Being upset is on us as we really were not privy to injury info. We also got upset when he didn’t play in huge games. Perhaps it wouldn’t have been so bad had coach not publicly said that Cam had practiced on several occasions. Again, getting mad at him was a “you problem”. I’ll readily admit that hearing that he practiced then didn’t seem play was tough to hear. I’ve never played football but can only imagine how getting hit can really hurt and backs must certainly get dinged up easily. I compared some of this stuff to Cam Newton. Loved the MVP level Cam, had no use for the fashion show look at me Cam. Maybe it’s in the name?
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Re: Cam Peoples
I haven’t seen any of Cams post and I will continue to wish him the best. I can tell you that being a former high profile App. State football player can help open doors in the real world. I can also tell you that being a disgruntled former App. State football player isn’t going to make you a living. And that’s not going to change no matter how good you tell the story. I hope the young man decides to use the opportunity afforded to him by his former coaches and App. State.