the lack of effort is what is most disappointing.

luvyosef · Unread post by **luvyosef** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:38 pm

You don't want to give 100 percent, turn in your jerseys and go home. Loss for words. App may not win another game this year. Last I looked, the Whee and Wofford were tied at 7.

DaphneUrquhart · Unread post by **DaphneUrquhart** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Were you at the game today?

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:26 am

luvyosef wrote:You don't want to give 100 percent, turn in your jerseys and go home. Loss for words. App may not win another game this year. Last I looked, the Whee and Wofford were tied at 7.

I wasn't at the game and only listened to David and Steve so I can't give a personal opinion on what I saw/didn't see --- I think some people mistake "lack of effort" with many other factors - teams which are struggling almost seem to find another way for things to go south and it's not always in the hands of the players/coaches - Last week the Price catch/drop (and my buddy Firemoose was watching and says without a doubt it should have been a TD) - score there we go up 10-7 and builds some life - yesterday a 98 INT return - a TD for us there and we got up 10-6 --- and it began at Montana - going into score at the end of the 3rd and fumble on the 3 yard line - TD there and we are down 16-13 heading into the 4th ---That's not to say we would have won those game, but I truly believe things like that severely affect a struggling team, especially a young team ---
Sure our coaches are struggling as well - they didn't all go "stupid" in the off-season - the keys guys have coached for some times in big games through tough seasons - they must have time!!!

As many like to say - "Satterfield is in over his head" --- Well hell yeah he is, just like 99% of young assistant coaches taking over their first head coaching job (add all the other drama with this ASU job) - After a few years as a head coach I looked back on my first couple of years and thought "How could I have been so dumb?" - "Why in the world did I/did I not do that? - etc., and I was just coaching in high school not big-time college football---

The coaches are frustrated - the seniors are frustrated - the young guys are struggling at times but let's not confuse all of this, plus the "bounce of the ball" with "lack of effort and giving up" ---

luvyosef · Unread post by **luvyosef** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:00 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
luvyosef wrote:You don't want to give 100 percent, turn in your jerseys and go home. Loss for words. App may not win another game this year. Last I looked, the Whee and Wofford were tied at 7.
I wasn't at the game and only listened to David and Steve so I can't give a personal opinion on what I saw/didn't see --- I think some people mistake "lack of effort" with many other factors - teams which are struggling almost seem to find another way for things to go south and it's not always in the hands of the players/coaches - Last week the Price catch/drop (and my buddy Firemoose was watching and says without a doubt it should have been a TD) - score there we go up 10-7 and builds some life - yesterday a 98 INT return - a TD for us there and we got up 10-6 --- and it began at Montana - going into score at the end of the 3rd and fumble on the 3 yard line - TD there and we are down 16-13 heading into the 4th ---That's not to say we would have won those game, but I truly believe things like that severely affect a struggling team, especially a young team ---
Sure our coaches are struggling as well - they didn't all go "stupid" in the off-season - the keys guys have coached for some times in big games through tough seasons - they must have time!!!

As many like to say - "Satterfield is in over his head" --- Well hell yeah he is, just like 99% of young assistant coaches taking over their first head coaching job (add all the other drama with this ASU job) - After a few years as a head coach I looked back on my first couple of years and thought "How could I have been so dumb?" - "Why in the world did I/did I not do that? - etc., and I was just coaching in high school not big-time college football---

The coaches are frustrated - the seniors are frustrated - the young guys are struggling at times but let's not confuse all of this, plus the "bounce of the ball" with "lack of effort and giving up" ---

You're right and I am wrong. Spoke totally in an enraged state. Thanks.