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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by 311neers » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:24 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:22 pm
FYI, Collins is getting a lot of comments on his social media pages because people think it's him based on thr No. 12.
Poor guy. Collins is 15 yards from the incident chasing the ball. Clark lit into the culprit immediately after. At the last second of the video you can see Clark run on camera.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by appstate24 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:28 pm

Have we confirmed who it is swinging the helmet?

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by 311neers » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:31 pm

appstate24 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:28 pm
Have we confirmed who it is swinging the helmet?
Yes, but it's best to keep it under wraps until University/Football team mention it, if they do.
Just sucks people are attacking Collins now because of the #12, so it makes sense to clear his name, that isn't cool.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by appstate24 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:32 pm

311neers wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:31 pm
appstate24 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:28 pm
Have we confirmed who it is swinging the helmet?
Yes, but it's best to keep it under wraps until University/Football team mention it, if they do.
Just sucks people are attacking Collins now because of the #12, so it makes sense to clear his name, that isn't cool.
Agree with both statements

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:32 pm

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Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:23 pm
It isn’t Collins.

Let’s not rush to judgement on punishment. It will be handled internally as it should have been to begin with. The action shouldn’t be condoned, but we don’t know what transpired.
You posted this and three hours later - "I'd be surprised if the individual isn't suspended for assault". My perception was the tune changed quickly, you're likely correct given the footage and public nature.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:40 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:32 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:23 pm
It isn’t Collins.

Let’s not rush to judgement on punishment. It will be handled internally as it should have been to begin with. The action shouldn’t be condoned, but we don’t know what transpired.
You posted this and three hours later - "I'd be surprised if the individual isn't suspended for assault". My perception was the tune changed quickly, you're likely correct given the footage and public nature.
Internally can mean a lot of things. i.e. not the public. Stop trying to stir up stuff just for your kicks. If you have nothing of value then just sit this one out and let the grown ups talk. OK?

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:43 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:22 pm
FYI, Collins is getting a lot of comments on his social media pages because people think it's him based on the No. 12.
That sucks if it’s not him

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by AppDub » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:45 pm

311neers wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:31 pm
appstate24 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:28 pm
Have we confirmed who it is swinging the helmet?
Yes, but it's best to keep it under wraps until University/Football team mention it, if they do.
Just sucks people are attacking Collins now because of the #12, so it makes sense to clear his name, that isn't cool.
Not saying you are wrong, but until another name comes out, many are still going to be projecting it on the one name already mentioned...Collins.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:48 pm

BallantyneApp wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:43 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:22 pm
FYI, Collins is getting a lot of comments on his social media pages because people think it's him based on the No. 12.
That sucks if it’s not him
It wasn’t Collins. I can confirm that.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:50 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:40 pm
Saint3333 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:32 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:23 pm
It isn’t Collins.

Let’s not rush to judgement on punishment. It will be handled internally as it should have been to begin with. The action shouldn’t be condoned, but we don’t know what transpired.
You posted this and three hours later - "I'd be surprised if the individual isn't suspended for assault". My perception was the tune changed quickly, you're likely correct given the footage and public nature.
Internally can mean a lot of things. i.e. not the public. Stop trying to stir up stuff just for your kicks. If you have nothing of value then just sit this one out and let the grown ups talk. OK?
Man you get defensive quick. It's a simple observation and your tune changed.

Refrain from insults while you're at it...

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by Black Saturday » Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:01 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:26 pm
A statement can be short and acknowledge the obvious while offering an answer to a question many people will have. Here's one I wrote off the top of my head.

"We are aware of a video showing an incident between two players at a recent practice. Appalachian State University, the football program and I as head coach in no way condone what's going on. We are instituting disciplinary actions against one of the players involved, consistent with the established rules and values we have in our program."
Good answer, Steve
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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by mountaineerman » Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:14 pm

I’m going with it’s the padded concussion helmet so it would not be a weapon 😆 I’m seeing a lot that it’s SH on X. If so that’s a shame he was going to be a beast and we surely needed him.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by AppSt91 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:35 pm

Don’t care who it is. Should be gone.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:38 pm

I think it’s easy to have that mindset from the outside. Throwing a kid to the curb isn’t the answer. Now is the time when the program and university needs to step up and support him. Have an indefinite suspension from athletic and academic activities but don’t just disregard him.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by AppSt91 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:00 pm

That’s assault. Football and school could be the least of his worries.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:11 pm

AppSt91 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:00 pm
That’s assault. Football and school could be the least of his worries.
So I assume you feel the same way about every punch thrown in every fall camp? Because those two would technically be assault.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by AppWyo » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:16 pm

The offensive lineman knocked off the defensive lineman's helmet first, before the defensive lineman took a swing at him. If you watch the clip closely, you can see that the defensive lineman does not have a helmet on when he takes the swing. You can see the defensive lineman's helmet rolling across the field.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:23 pm

AppSt91 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:35 pm
Don’t care who it is. Should be gone.
This is a crazy statement - internal punishment will suffice - you are going to kick a kid off the team for a really stupid 5 seconds of his life on the football field? As a former coach I have seen worse and No, I kicked no one off the team
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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by 311neers » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:27 pm

Would he have been suspended if the video never leaked? Fights happen all the time in camp/practice (although this is a bit more, swinging helmets on a defenseless guy without a helmet).

Also, surprised that a lot of fans don’t know who our players are without their helmets on.

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Re: Happy Fall Camp Eve!

Unread post by AppDub » Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:37 pm

311neers wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:27 pm
Would he have been suspended if the video never leaked? Fights happen all the time in camp/practice (although this is a bit more, swinging helmets on a defenseless guy without a helmet).

Also, surprised that a lot of fans don’t know who our players are without their helmets on.
Thinking most know who it is, just don't want it to be real due to expected productivity from the player. Then there are a few who are clueless. Disappointing all around.

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