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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by ASU-FTW » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:28 pm

SpeedkingATL wrote:If App is this bad for eternity, THEN you'll have that WCU feeling.
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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:29 pm

athiker65 wrote:Don't know who Patrick is, first post on this new format. Many post on the old message board. Just wondering how many pro-FBSer's on here will be in permanent meltdown when the jug heads to the whee at the end of the season.
Oh, another anti-FBS thread. YAY!

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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by luvyosef » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:31 pm

Only difference is that up until their new chancellor, the Cats were fighting their powers to be over in Cullowhee. Needless to say if that ever happens here, pitchforks and torches should be the norm. Go App!
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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by athiker65 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:30 pm

I am amazed at the failed grasp of reality here. I keep hearing that we are just getting ready for next season. Really? That statement makes as much sense as a Nationwide team that has finished only one race for the season saying, "Looks like we are ready to move up to the Cup series". I have been WHOLEHEARTEDLY against to move up from day one. You really think next year will be any better? Our OL and DL have been manhandled all year by teams we should have dominated. What do you think is going to happen next year against bigger and stronger lines? Satterfield goes or stays, it doesn't matter. The move to FBS was a prideful, chest-thumping reaction to the three NC's, I have been a fan for years, have one child attending ASU now, and hopefully a my second child will receive an acceptance letter soon and will have two studying in Boone. So my loyalty better never be questioned. But the way I see this whole move is this. I have been there for every game for years, EVERY playoff game but one, (family situation), and have watched those playoff games in an half-empty stadium. Those that have been so ardent about the move up are probably the same ones that failed to show and support during the playoffs and can ease their guilty consciences for not showing up by the push to eliminate the playoff games entirely by moving up. I personally enjoy football, and the playoffs meant more football to watch. But hey, I guess you all are ok with NEVER playing for a National Championship again. EVER! I rather enjoyed going to Chattanoga and experiencing that excitement and accomplishment. I know it's in Texas now but that is irrelevant now. But what do I know, I'm just one person with some common sense. The program in in shambles right now. When on the other message board, I read countless bellyaching on how big a disappointment the season was when ASU lost in the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong, but you had better get ready to accept seasons like this one for SEVERAL years to come. But we will still be in our seats, the same seats we have kept for years, cheering for the Mountaineers!

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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by Yosef84 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:02 am

The best way to address any negative "feelings" right now is to chalk up wins against Georgia Southern, Wofford, Chattanooga and Western. Those are winnable games, but we'll have to execute better than we've been executing the last two games. These young guys need to believe! Instead of wallowing in self-pity, why don't we all (being the mature adult fans that we are) throw our full support behind these young men, show up Saturday and scream our lungs out!!!!!

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Re: That WCU feeling

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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:53 am

athiker65 wrote:I am amazed at the failed grasp of reality here. I keep hearing that we are just getting ready for next season. Really? That statement makes as much sense as a Nationwide team that has finished only one race for the season saying, "Looks like we are ready to move up to the Cup series". I have been WHOLEHEARTEDLY against to move up from day one. You really think next year will be any better? Our OL and DL have been manhandled all year by teams we should have dominated. What do you think is going to happen next year against bigger and stronger lines? Satterfield goes or stays, it doesn't matter. The move to FBS was a prideful, chest-thumping reaction to the three NC's, I have been a fan for years, have one child attending ASU now, and hopefully a my second child will receive an acceptance letter soon and will have two studying in Boone. So my loyalty better never be questioned. But the way I see this whole move is this. I have been there for every game for years, EVERY playoff game but one, (family situation), and have watched those playoff games in an half-empty stadium. Those that have been so ardent about the move up are probably the same ones that failed to show and support during the playoffs and can ease their guilty consciences for not showing up by the push to eliminate the playoff games entirely by moving up. I personally enjoy football, and the playoffs meant more football to watch. But hey, I guess you all are ok with NEVER playing for a National Championship again. EVER! I rather enjoyed going to Chattanoga and experiencing that excitement and accomplishment. I know it's in Texas now but that is irrelevant now. But what do I know, I'm just one person with some common sense. The program in in shambles right now. When on the other message board, I read countless bellyaching on how big a disappointment the season was when ASU lost in the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong, but you had better get ready to accept seasons like this one for SEVERAL years to come. But we will still be in our seats, the same seats we have kept for years, cheering for the Mountaineers!
The irony of demanding no one question your loyalty, but then assuming the actions of pro-FBSers is rich.

I'm glad you're a diehard fan...most of us are, regardless of our feelings regarding the move to the FBS. I, for one, have been in favor of the move since the moratorium was lifted. It had/has nothing to do with "chest thumping" or "pride," but a belief that it was in the best interests of the university. Time will tell if it was the right decision. However, your arrogant indignation is not becoming, and is disappointing because you are an excellent poster.

BTW, like you, regardless of wins and losses, I will be in my seats cheering as always because I'm a Mountaineer first, last, and always.

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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:13 am

athiker65 wrote:The move to FBS was a prideful, chest-thumping reaction to the three NC's


Those that have been so ardent about the move up are probably the same ones that failed to show and support during the playoffs and can ease their guilty consciences for not showing up by the push to eliminate the playoff games entirely by moving up.

Amazing someone could really believe that was the reason for the move up.

Sorry, but that second statement is just dumb.
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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:15 am

I take exception to the assertion that moving up to the FBS is "chest thumping" and "prideful." FIrst of all being a fan requires a certain amount of pride, you cannot be a fan of something you are not (on some level) proud of . . . simple truth. I support moving to the FBS as the next step in the evolution of Appalachian Athletics. While the largest impact is on the football program the move is bigger than just football. I also will infer from your enjoyment of playoff games that you have never attended a bowl game. I've done both (every playoff in 2005, 2006, and missed semis only in 2007), and I can say without hesitation that a bowl game (even the Belk Bowl last year) is a better experience. I believe App football is a program that can ascend to a bowl game, and has the potential to be a Boise State type FBS program that makes their way into one of the big boys. That makes the transition and pain of some losing seasons worth it.

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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by Appftw » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:45 am

athiker65 wrote:I am amazed at the failed grasp of reality here. I keep hearing that we are just getting ready for next season. Really? That statement makes as much sense as a Nationwide team that has finished only one race for the season saying, "Looks like we are ready to move up to the Cup series". I have been WHOLEHEARTEDLY against to move up from day one. You really think next year will be any better? Our OL and DL have been manhandled all year by teams we should have dominated. What do you think is going to happen next year against bigger and stronger lines? Satterfield goes or stays, it doesn't matter. The move to FBS was a prideful, chest-thumping reaction to the three NC's, I have been a fan for years, have one child attending ASU now, and hopefully a my second child will receive an acceptance letter soon and will have two studying in Boone. So my loyalty better never be questioned. But the way I see this whole move is this. I have been there for every game for years, EVERY playoff game but one, (family situation), and have watched those playoff games in an half-empty stadium. Those that have been so ardent about the move up are probably the same ones that failed to show and support during the playoffs and can ease their guilty consciences for not showing up by the push to eliminate the playoff games entirely by moving up. I personally enjoy football, and the playoffs meant more football to watch. But hey, I guess you all are ok with NEVER playing for a National Championship again. EVER! I rather enjoyed going to Chattanoga and experiencing that excitement and accomplishment. I know it's in Texas now but that is irrelevant now. But what do I know, I'm just one person with some common sense. The program in in shambles right now. When on the other message board, I read countless bellyaching on how big a disappointment the season was when ASU lost in the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong, but you had better get ready to accept seasons like this one for SEVERAL years to come. But we will still be in our seats, the same seats we have kept for years, cheering for the Mountaineers!

You could've summed all of this up with two words:

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athiker65 wrote:I am amazed at the failed grasp of reality here. I keep hearing that we are just getting ready for next season. Really? That statement makes as much sense as a Nationwide team that has finished only one race for the season saying, "Looks like we are ready to move up to the Cup series". I have been WHOLEHEARTEDLY against to move up from day one. You really think next year will be any better? Our OL and DL have been manhandled all year by teams we should have dominated. What do you think is going to happen next year against bigger and stronger lines? Satterfield goes or stays, it doesn't matter. The move to FBS was a prideful, chest-thumping reaction to the three NC's, I have been a fan for years, have one child attending ASU now, and hopefully a my second child will receive an acceptance letter soon and will have two studying in Boone. So my loyalty better never be questioned. But the way I see this whole move is this. I have been there for every game for years, EVERY playoff game but one, (family situation), and have watched those playoff games in an half-empty stadium. Those that have been so ardent about the move up are probably the same ones that failed to show and support during the playoffs and can ease their guilty consciences for not showing up by the push to eliminate the playoff games entirely by moving up. I personally enjoy football, and the playoffs meant more football to watch. But hey, I guess you all are ok with NEVER playing for a National Championship again. EVER! I rather enjoyed going to Chattanoga and experiencing that excitement and accomplishment. I know it's in Texas now but that is irrelevant now. But what do I know, I'm just one person with some common sense. The program in in shambles right now. When on the other message board, I read countless bellyaching on how big a disappointment the season was when ASU lost in the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong, but you had better get ready to accept seasons like this one for SEVERAL years to come. But we will still be in our seats, the same seats we have kept for years, cheering for the Mountaineers!

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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:55 am

I'm glad all you guys who think App will NEVER compete for a National Championship are not actually a part of the football program. That kind of absolute thinking is deadly to hope and aspirations, not to mention how much it stifles growth and opportunity.

Sure, no doubt, Appalachian is not getting BCS berth in the next 4,5 maybe 10 years, but NEVER? That's a mighty long time. I happen to believe a BCS berth is within the realm of possibility in my life time, not probable, but possible. I damn well hope that every member of the football program has the same belief.

Are you among those that said Appalchian would NEVER beat a ranked BCS team? Because it is pretty much the same thing, and we've already proven that NEVER wrong.
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Re: That WCU feeling

Unread post by hapapp » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:12 am

One could argue that staying in the FCS would be a prideful, chest-thumping decision. All one has to do is go back and look at how many of our fans lorded over the smaller schools that comprise the SoCon and the FCS. No doubt many fans of FCS schools (and some of our own) are relishing the difficulties we face this year because of our perceived, and is some cases earned, sense of arrogance for the past 8 or so years. A motivation for staying at the FCS level would be for continued success over schools with a fraction of the enrollment with that of App State. Thus, allowing our fans to feel superior. I realize for some, their self-identity is tied to our success on the gridiron. I'm disappointed when we lose and not satisfied with where we are at the moment, but my life goes on.

I look forward to the challenge that the Sun Belt brings. Perhaps, we will struggle in our first years there but I like the fact that it will require of us more than we have needed against our FCS foes. Regardless of where one was on the move, it has been made. We can only move forward. I don't get standing on the sidelines and bemoaning that fact.

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athiker65 wrote:I am amazed at the failed grasp of reality here. I keep hearing that we are just getting ready for next season. Really? That statement makes as much sense as a Nationwide team that has finished only one race for the season saying, "Looks like we are ready to move up to the Cup series". I have been WHOLEHEARTEDLY against to move up from day one. You really think next year will be any better? Our OL and DL have been manhandled all year by teams we should have dominated. What do you think is going to happen next year against bigger and stronger lines? Satterfield goes or stays, it doesn't matter. The move to FBS was a prideful, chest-thumping reaction to the three NC's, I have been a fan for years, have one child attending ASU now, and hopefully a my second child will receive an acceptance letter soon and will have two studying in Boone. So my loyalty better never be questioned. But the way I see this whole move is this. I have been there for every game for years, EVERY playoff game but one, (family situation), and have watched those playoff games in an half-empty stadium. Those that have been so ardent about the move up are probably the same ones that failed to show and support during the playoffs and can ease their guilty consciences for not showing up by the push to eliminate the playoff games entirely by moving up. I personally enjoy football, and the playoffs meant more football to watch. But hey, I guess you all are ok with NEVER playing for a National Championship again. EVER! I rather enjoyed going to Chattanoga and experiencing that excitement and accomplishment. I know it's in Texas now but that is irrelevant now. But what do I know, I'm just one person with some common sense. The program in in shambles right now. When on the other message board, I read countless bellyaching on how big a disappointment the season was when ASU lost in the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong, but you had better get ready to accept seasons like this one for SEVERAL years to come. But we will still be in our seats, the same seats we have kept for years, cheering for the Mountaineers!

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hapapp wrote:One could argue that staying in the FCS would be a prideful, chest-thumping decision. All one has to do is go back and look at how many of our fans lorded over the smaller schools that comprise the SoCon and the FCS. No doubt many fans of FCS schools (and some of our own) are relishing the difficulties we face this year because of our perceived, and is some cases earned, sense of arrogance for the past 8 or so years. A motivation for staying at the FCS level would be for continued success over schools with a fraction of the enrollment with that of App State. Thus, allowing our fans to feel superior. I realize for some, their self-identity is tied to our success on the gridiron. I'm disappointed when we lose and not satisfied with where we are at the moment, but my life goes on.

I look forward to the challenge that the Sun Belt brings. Perhaps, we will struggle in our first years there but I like the fact that it will require of us more than we have needed against our FCS foes. Regardless of where one was on the move, it has been made. We can only move forward. I don't get standing on the sidelines and bemoaning that fact.
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hapapp wrote:One could argue that staying in the FCS would be a prideful, chest-thumping decision. All one has to do is go back and look at how many of our fans lorded over the smaller schools that comprise the SoCon and the FCS. No doubt many fans of FCS schools (and some of our own) are relishing the difficulties we face this year because of our perceived, and is some cases earned, sense of arrogance for the past 8 or so years. A motivation for staying at the FCS level would be for continued success over schools with a fraction of the enrollment with that of App State. Thus, allowing our fans to feel superior. I realize for some, their self-identity is tied to our success on the gridiron. I'm disappointed when we lose and not satisfied with where we are at the moment, but my life goes on.

I look forward to the challenge that the Sun Belt brings. Perhaps, we will struggle in our first years there but I like the fact that it will require of us more than we have needed against our FCS foes. Regardless of where one was on the move, it has been made. We can only move forward. I don't get standing on the sidelines and bemoaning that fact.
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hapapp wrote:One could argue that staying in the FCS would be a prideful, chest-thumping decision. All one has to do is go back and look at how many of our fans lorded over the smaller schools that comprise the SoCon and the FCS. No doubt many fans of FCS schools (and some of our own) are relishing the difficulties we face this year because of our perceived, and is some cases earned, sense of arrogance for the past 8 or so years. A motivation for staying at the FCS level would be for continued success over schools with a fraction of the enrollment with that of App State. Thus, allowing our fans to feel superior. I realize for some, their self-identity is tied to our success on the gridiron. I'm disappointed when we lose and not satisfied with where we are at the moment, but my life goes on.

I look forward to the challenge that the Sun Belt brings. Perhaps, we will struggle in our first years there but I like the fact that it will require of us more than we have needed against our FCS foes. Regardless of where one was on the move, it has been made. We can only move forward. I don't get standing on the sidelines and bemoaning that fact.
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TheMoody1 wrote:
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athiker65 wrote:I am amazed at the failed grasp of reality here. I keep hearing that we are just getting ready for next season. Really? That statement makes as much sense as a Nationwide team that has finished only one race for the season saying, "Looks like we are ready to move up to the Cup series". I have been WHOLEHEARTEDLY against to move up from day one. You really think next year will be any better? Our OL and DL have been manhandled all year by teams we should have dominated. What do you think is going to happen next year against bigger and stronger lines? Satterfield goes or stays, it doesn't matter. The move to FBS was a prideful, chest-thumping reaction to the three NC's, I have been a fan for years, have one child attending ASU now, and hopefully a my second child will receive an acceptance letter soon and will have two studying in Boone. So my loyalty better never be questioned. But the way I see this whole move is this. I have been there for every game for years, EVERY playoff game but one, (family situation), and have watched those playoff games in an half-empty stadium. Those that have been so ardent about the move up are probably the same ones that failed to show and support during the playoffs and can ease their guilty consciences for not showing up by the push to eliminate the playoff games entirely by moving up. I personally enjoy football, and the playoffs meant more football to watch. But hey, I guess you all are ok with NEVER playing for a National Championship again. EVER! I rather enjoyed going to Chattanoga and experiencing that excitement and accomplishment. I know it's in Texas now but that is irrelevant now. But what do I know, I'm just one person with some common sense. The program in in shambles right now. When on the other message board, I read countless bellyaching on how big a disappointment the season was when ASU lost in the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong, but you had better get ready to accept seasons like this one for SEVERAL years to come. But we will still be in our seats, the same seats we have kept for years, cheering for the Mountaineers!

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How the hell did Roachel Laney get into this discussion??????????
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Who is Roachel Laney?
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