How many games can teams lose?

[Bigdaddyg1]

I somewhat regret starting this topic as the intent wasn’t to solely focus on or debate the brand level or chances strictly for App State to get into the CFP. I’m interested to see overall how people think the entire body of eligible teams could finish and get in. To me it’s entirely possible that a 3 loss team from one of the super leagues will grab a spot as the committee will justify their record- LSU for example opens with USC. They could lose, win 7 straight, lose to Alabama then win a couple and lose to Oklahoma and go 9-3. Even with some trash wins they would probably grab an 11 seed if enough power schools beat up on each other.

I liked the comment that the playoffs start week 1 for most teams like us while FSU is still in the mix. Even the really good G5’s will have a tough time running the table because each conference has at least a few teams who can easily beat the others. While winning it all is ultimately the goal of everyone that can’t be the singular focus of App State. A tough early loss can’t mentally wreck the season and a stunning win at Clemson can’t create a false sense of superiority either.

Hard to envision any scenario where any G5 gets the spot with 2 conference losses. Depth and overall health of key positions will be crucial for teams like ours who don’t have 4 stars standing on the sidelines.

[AppSt94]

To answer your question, an SEC or BIG team with a 9-3 record will likely be seen as worthy and get consideration for an at large spot with the same weight as a 10-2 ACC or BIG 12. I don’t feel like a 13-0 G5 champ gets consideration for an at large birth.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

If we don’t take down Liberty, since we are their toughest game, they will have a good shot to go 13-0.

[BambooRdApp]

Cincy, a G5 team, got in the playoffs the year they beat ND. A G5 team that beats a top 10 P4 team (and P4 has good record at EOY) and G5 goes undefeated, I could see a possibility. With that said, with this new format (assuming status quo for future)...the G5 team, with the credentials I mentioned above, probably gets the G5 slot (not open bid)...as it is hard for me to see the committee putting two G5s in the playoffs...it may be deserved in a particular year, but their egos of P4s are obviously better than G5s will always come into play....Not saying they are incorrect given the P4 schedules each week.
But...for the March madness mental standpoint, it would be great to see and those teams win game 1...

[AppStFan1]

Cincy, a G5 team, got in the playoffs the year they beat ND. A G5 team that beats a top 10 P4 team (and P4 has good record at EOY) and G5 goes undefeated, I could see a possibility. With that said, with this new format (assuming status quo for future)...the G5 team, with the credentials I mentioned above, probably gets the G5 slot (not open bid)...as it is hard for me to see the committee putting two G5s in the playoffs...it may be deserved in a particular year, but their egos of P4s are obviously better than G5s will always come into play....Not saying they are incorrect given the P4 schedules each week.
But...for the March madness mental standpoint, it would be great to see and those teams win game 1...

I think the only way we see 2 G5 teams in the playoff is if we have 2 undefeated G5s who both have a win over a ranked P4 team. That will be hard to do but it is not impossible. There will need to be a little luck with who is on the schedule since these are planned out years in advance.

[EastHallApp]

I somewhat regret starting this topic as the intent wasn’t to solely focus on or debate the brand level or chances strictly for App State to get into the CFP. I’m interested to see overall how people think the entire body of eligible teams could finish and get in. To me it’s entirely possible that a 3 loss team from one of the super leagues will grab a spot as the committee will justify their record- LSU for example opens with USC. They could lose, win 7 straight, lose to Alabama then win a couple and lose to Oklahoma and go 9-3. Even with some trash wins they would probably grab an 11 seed if enough power schools beat up on each other.

I liked the comment that the playoffs start week 1 for most teams like us while FSU is still in the mix. Even the really good G5’s will have a tough time running the table because each conference has at least a few teams who can easily beat the others. While winning it all is ultimately the goal of everyone that can’t be the singular focus of App State. A tough early loss can’t mentally wreck the season and a stunning win at Clemson can’t create a false sense of superiority either.

Hard to envision any scenario where any G5 gets the spot with 2 conference losses. Depth and overall health of key positions will be crucial for teams like ours who don’t have 4 stars standing on the sidelines.

I think past years can be somewhat of a guide on both these questions. Who finished in the top 12? Who got the G5 NY6 bid?

Last year, I don't believe any 3-loss teams would have been in the running. In 2022, though, you had two 10-3 teams in the final top 10 (Utah and K-State). Others have been in that range in various years. In 2018, 9 through 12 ALL had three losses.

As far as the G5 bid, I would guess that most years it will be a 12-1 or 13-0 team. But it's not hard to imagine it being a 2-loss team sometimes. It's happened a couple times before.

[EastHallApp]

One variable for the G5 bid is, if Boise is in the mix at the end, how the committee treats that game at Oregon, assuming Boise doesn't beat them. Other teams play P4s, but not many contenders face an opponent of that caliber (including us).

[AppStFan1]

I somewhat regret starting this topic as the intent wasn’t to solely focus on or debate the brand level or chances strictly for App State to get into the CFP. I’m interested to see overall how people think the entire body of eligible teams could finish and get in. To me it’s entirely possible that a 3 loss team from one of the super leagues will grab a spot as the committee will justify their record- LSU for example opens with USC. They could lose, win 7 straight, lose to Alabama then win a couple and lose to Oklahoma and go 9-3. Even with some trash wins they would probably grab an 11 seed if enough power schools beat up on each other.

I liked the comment that the playoffs start week 1 for most teams like us while FSU is still in the mix. Even the really good G5’s will have a tough time running the table because each conference has at least a few teams who can easily beat the others. While winning it all is ultimately the goal of everyone that can’t be the singular focus of App State. A tough early loss can’t mentally wreck the season and a stunning win at Clemson can’t create a false sense of superiority either.

Hard to envision any scenario where any G5 gets the spot with 2 conference losses. Depth and overall health of key positions will be crucial for teams like ours who don’t have 4 stars standing on the sidelines.

Aren't they taking the top 5 conference champs? If so, if the highest ranked G5 has 2 conference losses then they can get in. I am with you that we can't let a Clemson win or one loss wreck our season. I just hope the players and coaches are truly taking it one game at a time. If we just go 1-0 every week and ignore the previous weeks or following weeks then we should be fine. ETSU is coming in to our game with the same mindset that we are going into Clemson. They want to shock the world. I just hope we send them home with a 40+ point loss.

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[Yosefus]

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Well we are still on the list! In my opinion a P4 could get in with 2 and possibly 3 losses. Any of the G5 whoever that winds up being will have to be either undefeated or 1 loss tops to be highest ranked conf champion. It's going to be interesting. I don't see anyone but Liberty with a good shot at 13-0. We can take care of that. The rest I don't see running the table. We will have to win out to have a shot with the Clemson loss being so lopsided. We face 2 and possibly 3 teams on this this as well which with wins move us up the list. We gotta start with next one in front of us tonight

[Bigdaddyg1]

It’s basically an elimination tournament for about 7 teams with several playing each other.

[AppWyo]

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Well we are still on the list! In my opinion a P4 could get in with 2 and possibly 3 losses. Any of the G5 whoever that winds up being will have to be either undefeated or 1 loss tops to be highest ranked conf champion. It's going to be interesting. I don't see anyone but Liberty with a good shot at 13-0. We can take care of that. The rest I don't see running the table. We will have to win out to have a shot with the Clemson loss being so lopsided. We face 2 and possibly 3 teams on this this as well which with wins move us up the list. We gotta start with next one in front of us tonight

It looks like the sun belt, being the toughest conference would just beat each other up and not make the playoffs this year.