I've had it

[BeauFoster]

I don't know what the reason behind was, but if it's true that it was to save them for next year it's a gutsy move and hopefully it pays off. Can't it was the right thing to do or not but it sure took guts.

Not that it's right or wrong, but Jim Grobe does the same thing at Wake. If you can't come in and start right away, and play the whole season, you redshirt.

[bcoach]

Could have had one of the best OL coaches out there. Remember Darren Hiller? We had him on the hook and dropped the ball. Failure to execute.

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=10- ... his-season

What happened? how did we drop the ball?

[asufan87]

We will be fine.....This is why


2012 Auburn Tigers Final Record: 3-9, 0-8 (SEC)

2013 Auburn Tigers 6-1, 2nd in West Division SEC and ranked #11

APP WILL BE FINE TOO, MIGHT NOT BE NEXT YEAR, BUT WE WILL BE BACK TO WINNING SOON....

Every team has down years..... we could end up 3-9 starting this week with GSU

The problem with that example is that Auburn fired the coach that led them to 3-9 and then hired the coach (who was the o coordinator for the national title team) that turned them around. Our team seems to be the inverse, we fired the coach with the good record and hired the o coordinator from our title teams only to see the record plummet off a cliff. But, I get your point, and hopefully this year is an anomaly.

We're in a totally different situation. This is only my opinion, but I think overarching issue impacting our program comes down to player buy-in, attitude, and leadership for the upperclassmen. Satterfield didn't suddenly become stupid between last season and this season. We have a senior class that probably feels marginalized. They've been in the program for 4-5 years and have had the goal of conference and national championships preached to them the whole time by the coaches and players that came before them. For this group of upperclassmen, there really is no tangible goal. In some cases, these upperclassmen may have started as former walk-ons who had to pay their own way a couple years before earning a partial scholarship. Now due to the transition and need to meet scholarship requirements, they see grants being given to those who haven't had to put in the sweat equity like they did. The general talk for months have been about the future of the program and where it's going, not the here and now and the trophy to be attained. Combine the transition with a change in head coaches and it only complicates matters. Things like this affect the way people think and act. I've seen it in the business world whenever change takes place and can only imagine how it impacts 18-22 year olds. What I'm essentially saying is that our upperclassmen have checked out and they are going through the motions. These are the guys that are supposed to be leading and setting the example for a large roster of young players. They may say otherwise and tweet otherwise, but actions speak louder than words. And Satterfield (or any other coach) can't really control that. It's the card he was dealt.

I suspect we'll see a good bit of change after the season and the attrition that we saw when Jerry Moore came in after Sparky Woods will probably happen again. Just being frank, I see some particular attitudes that need to be dismissed from this team when the clock hits 0:00 after the last game this season.

[hapapp]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

[bcoach]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

Just wondering what others had heard because I had heard that it was a money issue. It made sense to me after seeing where he ended up. Who knows.

[JTApps1]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

Just wondering what others had heard because I had heard that it was a money issue. It made sense to me after seeing where he ended up. Who knows.

I was told he agreed to come to Boone after talking to SS, but JM forgot to call him back and send paperwork. By the time JM was reminded he needed to call back Hiller had taken another job.

[Saint3333]

For anyone that wants a new coach, the question isn't could we get another coach the more relevant question would be if you were a 2014 recruit would you come to App?

Satt gets two recruiting classes (2014 and 2015) before I judge him.

Every night has a dawn.

[Maddog1956]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

Just wondering what others had heard because I had heard that it was a money issue. It made sense to me after seeing where he ended up. Who knows.

I was told he agreed to come to Boone after talking to SS, but JM forgot to call him back and send paperwork. By the time JM was reminded he needed to call back Hiller had taken another job.

I heard he liked JM but didn't like SS as assistant but JM offered him the job anyway but by the time CC sent him the paperwork he had another job.

Not really but just as valid. I'm sure you heard what you heard, but it seem like something someone that didn't like JM would make up, since it can't be proven.

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

[hapapp]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

Just wondering what others had heard because I had heard that it was a money issue. It made sense to me after seeing where he ended up. Who knows.

I was told he agreed to come to Boone after talking to SS, but JM forgot to call him back and send paperwork. By the time JM was reminded he needed to call back Hiller had taken another job.

I heard he liked JM but didn't like SS as assistant but JM offered him the job anyway but by the time CC sent him the paperwork he had another job.

Not really but just as valid. I'm sure you heard what you heard, but it seem like something someone that didn't like JM would make up, since it can't be proven.

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

Just because it doesn't put Jerry in the best light doesn't mean it isn't true. I have no beef with Jerry and am eternally grateful that he was our coach for so long but it doesn't mean he didn't mess up from time to time like all of us.

[JTApps1]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

Just wondering what others had heard because I had heard that it was a money issue. It made sense to me after seeing where he ended up. Who knows.

I was told he agreed to come to Boone after talking to SS, but JM forgot to call him back and send paperwork. By the time JM was reminded he needed to call back Hiller had taken another job.

I heard he liked JM but didn't like SS as assistant but JM offered him the job anyway but by the time CC sent him the paperwork he had another job.

Not really but just as valid. I'm sure you heard what you heard, but it seem like something someone that didn't like JM would make up, since it can't be proven.

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

This didn't come from some fan with an axe to grind.

[Maddog1956]

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

Just because it doesn't put Jerry in the best light doesn't mean it isn't true. I have no beef with Jerry and am eternally grateful that he was our coach for so long but it doesn't mean he didn't mess up from time to time like all of us.[/quote]

No it doesn't and I'm sure he has made many, but no matter what the topic is it always goes back to JM didn't do something. Like saying DH was right in our hands, but for JM, meanwhile DH is at a larger school and making more money.

People are free to believe what they want but I think DH got a better offer has more credibility.

[bcoach]

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

Just because it doesn't put Jerry in the best light doesn't mean it isn't true. I have no beef with Jerry and am eternally grateful that he was our coach for so long but it doesn't mean he didn't mess up from time to time like all of us.

No it doesn't and I'm sure he has made many, but no matter what the topic is it always goes back to JM didn't do something. Like saying DH was right in our hands, but for JM, meanwhile DH is at a larger school and making more money.

People are free to believe what they want but I think DH got a better offer has more credibility.[/quote]
I think I have to go along with that. If you accepted the job and didn't get some paperwork wouldn't you pick up the phone? Sounds like one more George Bush did it deals.

[asutrnr81]

Could have had one of the best OL coaches out there. Remember Darren Hiller? We had him on the hook and dropped the ball. Failure to execute.

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=10- ... his-season

What happened? how did we drop the ball?

Name-Resume'-et-al was given to HC and it sat on his desk until Hiller went to another school...

[Kgfish]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

Just wondering what others had heard because I had heard that it was a money issue. It made sense to me after seeing where he ended up. Who knows.

I was told he agreed to come to Boone after talking to SS, but JM forgot to call him back and send paperwork. By the time JM was reminded he needed to call back Hiller had taken another job.

I heard he liked JM but didn't like SS as assistant but JM offered him the job anyway but by the time CC sent him the paperwork he had another job.

Not really but just as valid. I'm sure you heard what you heard, but it seem like something someone that didn't like JM would make up, since it can't be proven.

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

You heard wrong. Scott knew Hiller from FIU when Hiller was at Ark State. Scott set up the meeting at the coaches convention in Dallas and Hiller agreed to take the job. After two weeks Scott asked HR when Hiller would be in Boone and was told they had no record of him. Scott asked Coach Moore about it and Jerry said he forgot to follow up. Scott tried to save the deal but Hiller was offered another job and after not hearing anything from ASU took it.

It's no secret Coach Moore wasn't happy being forced to take Scott back as Associate Head Coach & OC. Some say Coach Moore didn't appreciate Scott getting involved in his business and refused to follow up on purpose. Now we have a OL coach who was going to be fired less than a year after landing in Boone. Just our luck.

[Kgfish]

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

Just because it doesn't put Jerry in the best light doesn't mean it isn't true. I have no beef with Jerry and am eternally grateful that he was our coach for so long but it doesn't mean he didn't mess up from time to time like all of us.

No it doesn't and I'm sure he has made many, but no matter what the topic is it always goes back to JM didn't do something. Like saying DH was right in our hands, but for JM, meanwhile DH is at a larger school and making more money.

People are free to believe what they want but I think DH got a better offer has more credibility.[/quote]

He took a job at Nevada before going to Cinn.

[bcoach]

Well now the stories are multiplying all supposedly from reliable sources. All I can see is that he took jobs for more money so would we have had him for more than one year anyway? He would have been gone by now. One of my duties on a board in my industry is to listen to complaints from members and from the public. We then try and determine if there is enough truth in the complaint to send it to the next level. We are not always right but we only have the story told and the rebuttal to work with. This one just sounds like a money issue to me. Again I could be wrong but sifting through the number of different stories here it just looks that way.

[vegattk]

For anyone that wants a new coach, the question isn't could we get another coach the more relevant question would be if you were a 2014 recruit would you come to App?

Satt gets two recruiting classes (2014 and 2015) before I judge him.

Every night has a dawn.

I'm excited at the prospect of a Satterfield QB... One that's groomed and picked out by him..... Once he gets that into place (assuming an OL comes with him) we'll see a huge turnaround.

[AppinVA]

For anyone that wants a new coach, the question isn't could we get another coach the more relevant question would be if you were a 2014 recruit would you come to App?

Satt gets two recruiting classes (2014 and 2015) before I judge him.

Every night has a dawn.

I'm excited at the prospect of a Satterfield QB... One that's groomed and picked out by him..... Once he gets that into place (assuming an OL comes with him) we'll see a huge turnaround.

I agree 100 percent.

[Cincy App]

Off the top of my head I would also include OL Beau Nunn and DB Tyrell Brown. Tyson Fernandez has already redshirted and is used in punt protection. I gotta say I'm pretty excited about our LBs and DBs for the next 3 or 4 years. DL is a work in progress but it looks like we are addressing it with our 2014 class so far.

Nunn and Brown are on the two deep are they really being redshirted?

From a review of the ASU Game Participation reports:

- Tyrell Brown has played in most games this year including the last 2. He will not be redshirted.

- Beau Nunn has not participated in any game so far this season. It's safe to assume he will be redshirted.

Our depth charts have not been updated much this season as noted with Blair still listed there. I don't put much stock in them. Of course, GSU still has McKinnon listed as starting QB and there are reports that he will be at B-Back instead.

[JCline0429]

The story I heard was that Jerry dropped the ball and failed to follow up on his interest. I don't know the veracity of that but I have heard that from several different folks.

Just wondering what others had heard because I had heard that it was a money issue. It made sense to me after seeing where he ended up. Who knows.

I was told he agreed to come to Boone after talking to SS, but JM forgot to call him back and send paperwork. By the time JM was reminded he needed to call back Hiller had taken another job.

I heard he liked JM but didn't like SS as assistant but JM offered him the job anyway but by the time CC sent him the paperwork he had another job.

Not really but just as valid. I'm sure you heard what you heard, but it seem like something someone that didn't like JM would make up, since it can't be proven.

Cincinnati, APPState I would imagine money had something to do with it.

You heard wrong. Scott knew Hiller from FIU when Hiller was at Ark State. Scott set up the meeting at the coaches convention in Dallas and Hiller agreed to take the job. After two weeks Scott asked HR when Hiller would be in Boone and was told they had no record of him. Scott asked Coach Moore about it and Jerry said he forgot to follow up. Scott tried to save the deal but Hiller was offered another job and after not hearing anything from ASU took it.

It's no secret Coach Moore wasn't happy being forced to take Scott back as Associate Head Coach & OC. Some say Coach Moore didn't appreciate Scott getting involved in his business and refused to follow up on purpose. Now we have a OL coach who was going to be fired less than a year after landing in Boone. Just our luck.

Which one of these multiple opinions are we to believe?