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[Oldlknapp]

How about position coaches? I didn’t see anything positive tonight. Next week is huge.

Positives:

Out kick coverage was solid.

Castle is RB1.

We have good WRs if Joey has time.

Harrington played well and we made solid open field tackles on the edges.

The O line was a positive. Clemson only got to Joey once all night.

[AppinVA]

app-gorilla’s hang over this morning is going to epic. Dude went on a rampage last night, posting and responding to himself

As bad as we all feel, nobody feels worse than the coaches and players….although gorilla’s hang over might be close.

Getting back to work and busting some EZU ass next week is the first step to forgetting this debacle.

GO APPS!!

Somewhere in all that um, entertainment, Gorilla said he lives in Utah. I’m trying to figure how he got that shitfaced on 3% beer.

I think the term is "lightweight"

It does lend credence to him not being one of us.

[Mjohn1988]

How about position coaches? I didn’t see anything positive tonight. Next week is huge.

Positives:

Out kick coverage was solid.

Castle is RB1.

We have good WRs if Joey has time.

Harrington played well and we made solid open field tackles on the edges.

Please don’t take this the wrong way. I love Castle, kid as obviously worked his butt off but I’m not sure Castle being RB1 is a good thing for us. Put him beside say, Evans, and I’ll hope you understand what I’m saying. Again, great young man, love his effort and he certainly isn’t without talent. He was our only bright spot last night.

[Black Saturday]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

[Mjohn1988]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

Getting talent is a huge part of coaching. I’m not saying we will ever have “Clemson” talent but we need to do much better.

[BeauFoster]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

Getting talent is a huge part of coaching. I’m not saying we will ever have “Clemson” talent but we need to do much better.

This goes back to a post I made in another thread, but where’s the money going to come from to get that talent? Because that’s the main driver these days - money. We have to pay that talent, and we don’t have the money for it.

[Pikapp79]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

No doubt the talent divide is extremely wide. The issue is can our staff coach well enough to win the Sun Belt vs equal or less talent. So far the answer is clear. Will see if that changes by seasons end. At that point it will be time to make a coaching decision. Good or bad.

[bcoach]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

and there is your answer.

[appdaze]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

No doubt the talent divide is extremely wide. The issue is can our staff coach well enough to win the Sun Belt vs equal or less talent. So far the answer is clear. Will see if that changes by seasons end. At that point it will be time to make a coaching decision. Good or bad.

2020 9-3, 6-2, bowl win
2021 10-4, 7-1 bowl loss
2022 6-6, 3-5 no bowl
2023 9-5, 6-2 bowl win
2024 1-1
ECU+9 conference games
If we go 8-4 with a bowl win, then he will keep his job and get to finish his contract. Anything less, and he should be gone. At this point, there are no more excuses. It is all his team and his culture. This is year five, and he has yet to win the conference. 8-4 with a bowl loss will put him on the fence and should probably be gone, but it wouldn't happen until after January 1st. No move will be made during the season unless we truly tank and DG is forced. If they keep him this year then he has to win the conference in year 6 or he needs to go.

[Mjohn1988]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

Getting talent is a huge part of coaching. I’m not saying we will ever have “Clemson” talent but we need to do much better.

This goes back to a post I made in another thread, but where’s the money going to come from to get that talent? Because that’s the main driver these days - money. We have to pay that talent, and we don’t have the money for it.

So what are universities like App who have so much of their identity wrapped up in football going to do? If the p4 programs are that much better than us then I never want to play another P4 opponent. Getting beat that bad is awful for the program and those young men on our team. Do we pull the G5 away from the P4 and just play within our “league” ? Do we go back to FCS? I know it was one game but if this is what the future looks like I’m not sure I want any part of it. I’m not sure what G5 football looks like without the P4 games.

[Yosefus]

Well another thing to consider P4 NC State was beat down over 40 points also by ranked Tennessee. It didn't look quite as bad as our 46 point L though. I'm just saying we weren't the only ones in that spot last night

[Pikapp79]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

Getting talent is a huge part of coaching. I’m not saying we will ever have “Clemson” talent but we need to do much better.

This goes back to a post I made in another thread, but where’s the money going to come from to get that talent? Because that’s the main driver these days - money. We have to pay that talent, and we don’t have the money for it.

So what are universities like App who have so much of their identity wrapped up in football going to do? If the p4 programs are that much better than us then I never want to play another P4 opponent. Getting beat that bad is awful for the program and those young men on our team. Do we pull the G5 away from the P4 and just play within our “league” ? Do we go back to FCS? I know it was one game but if this is what the future looks like I’m not sure I want any part of it. I’m not sure what G5 football looks like without the P4 games.

The divide is only beginning. NIL and the portal have changed the landscape by a mile. Will be interesting how universities outside the top 30-40 decide to go forward in a few years.

[Stonewall]

We looked like we dropped down to FCS last night. A week to turn it around. Six days.

[Saint3333]

How about position coaches? I didn’t see anything positive tonight. Next week is huge.

Positives:

Out kick coverage was solid.

Castle is RB1.

We have good WRs if Joey has time.

Harrington played well and we made solid open field tackles on the edges.

Please don’t take this the wrong way. I love Castle, kid as obviously worked his butt off but I’m not sure Castle being RB1 is a good thing for us. Put him beside say, Evans, and I’ll hope you understand what I’m saying. Again, great young man, love his effort and he certainly isn’t without talent. He was our only bright spot last night.

Don’t say it was a good thing, but last night he wanted it more.

[RaleighApp27609]

In summation it's not our coaching - Total talent disparity - with their coach and his umpteen future NFLers starting and in the depth charts that had sand kicked in their faces by Georgia last Saturday, and the national sports media and their fanbase all week. How many P4 and G5 would have taken the same ass whipping we got?

No doubt the talent divide is extremely wide. The issue is can our staff coach well enough to win the Sun Belt vs equal or less talent. So far the answer is clear. Will see if that changes by seasons end. At that point it will be time to make a coaching decision. Good or bad.

2020 9-3, 6-2, bowl win
2021 10-4, 7-1 bowl loss
2022 6-6, 3-5 no bowl
2023 9-5, 6-2 bowl win
2024 1-1
ECU+9 conference games
If we go 8-4 with a bowl win, then he will keep his job and get to finish his contract. Anything less, and he should be gone. At this point, there are no more excuses. It is all his team and his culture. This is year five, and he has yet to win the conference. 8-4 with a bowl loss will put him on the fence and should probably be gone, but it wouldn't happen until after January 1st. No move will be made during the season unless we truly tank and DG is forced. If they keep him this year then he has to win the conference in year 6 or he needs to go.

I've heard rumors that if he doesn't win the conference championship this year his contract won't be renewed. Is this year the last year on his current contract?

[Saint3333]

Let’s wait until October 1st to start this conversation.

[RaleighApp27609]

Let’s wait until October 1st to start this conversation.

It hasn't recently started. It's been an ongoing conversation. This is his fifth year.

[appstatealum]

Have we stopped anyone? What an embarrassment Clemson putting their back ups in 2:00 into the second half.

They played 66 different players in the first quarter per the TV crew. Their back ups were being mixed in early and their back ups backs ups played most of the second half.
I hope last night was an aberration but I fear it wasn't. It also makes me wonder Just how scary is Georgia and could they beat the Panthers.

Georgia would get smoked by the Panthers. Don't be one of those guys (I'm pretty sure you are joking).

[Saint3333]

I’ll be here next Sunday to discuss whether we win or loss to ECU, if we win some of you won’t be.

[AppinVA]

Let’s wait until October 1st to start this conversation.

It hasn't recently started. It's been an ongoing conversation. This is his fifth year.

All his goals are still in front of him.