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[Stonewall]

Roberts looks like he’s found his groove. Receivers made some impressive snags. 4 is giving his all. Just making too many mistakes to win.

[WASU 93]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

Actually, I think the play calling was right. In the second half, those 15 yard runs turned into 4 yard runs, because they started keying on the run. The Strohman interception was in his hands and he bobbled it into the defender. The Strohman sideline catch was a heck of an effort, but Joey put the ball too far outside. Execute on those two plays and have the correct call on the fumble and we're probably having a different conversation.

The other three interceptions were 100% on the QB and their were a few more errant throws that could have been picked off.

But, it's time to hand the reins over to Wiles. QB play has been off all year and our receivers have made a lot of bad throws into positive plays.

[WASU 93]

One thing that I’ve observed over the last couple years and maybe it’s been addressed. Why doesn’t the offense ever run pre-snap motion? I see it once or twice a game and they’re successful. But for 95% of the time they’re in a base concept that is very predictable. Using motion is the ultimate cheat code. That’s just my two cents. I just didn’t know if anybody had any insight.

It's not just the offense. Our defense also doesn't have any pre-snap movement. Watched WKU/UTEP the other night and WKU is always moving pre-snap. There were shifts on their entire D-Line, backers and safeties creeping up, db's changing looks and coverage pre-snap. Creating confusion for the other team can lead to mis-matches, broken coverage and missed assignments.

[Stonewall]

14 point swing on fumble fumble plays in fourth quarter. The first call I just don’t see it.

[ASUTodd]

All these coulda wouldas.... Everyone should have known how this was going to go as soon as the first snap took place and it was a false start. Coulda wouldas are just a fantasy world people live in to make themselves feel better about losing.

[Pikapp79]

What a sad time for App football.

[spacemonkey]

Yeah....I think Louisiana may have some coaching issues as well....they did us a favor of not throwing deep amd not running their quarterback. We cannot stop either.

Every quarterback keeper has gone for 8 or more yards and we only run it twice a game. We have a backup if he gets hurt. He should be pulling the ball more. It is what made taylor and Zach Thomas so successful. Our coaches think we are an NFL pro team with some irreplaceable qb. We live and die from a slant route....which is low percentage in college football, especially when the defense is sitting on the route.

[AppDub]

#CleanHouse

It's time.

Justin Watts man his timing was perfect, got out of dodge at the right time.

Facts!

[AppStFan1]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Fans had his cell number and sent him hate messages online and to his cell number. It's documented on the Cabin.

We need to have a researcher for the board.

oh how we forget....

DOTE vs AppFAN1 in the debate ring on Network news Channels is my dream!!!!

[AppStFan1]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Fans had his cell number and sent him hate messages online and to his cell number. It's documented on the Cabin.

We need to have a researcher for the board.

oh how we forget....

DOTE vs AppFAN1 in the debate ring on Network news Channels is my dream!!!!

I remember hearing that but a couple stupid fans should not be the entire reason for that. I would love to see the thread. I figured he heard a lot of crap from students online but I bet 99% of those people would not say a word to any of these players in person.

[Pikapp79]

Hard to have a decent season with zero defense. It’s a shame we don’t have talent to stop a sniffle.

[ASUFan4863]

We could do better on misdirection and pre-snap movement. Some creativity could help. Our coaches are - or should be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the team. All teams have strengths and weaknesses. The good teams navigate around them - and are still successful. We are not doing that. If a team stuffs our run game - we continue to run etc.... Not saying there are no other issues - just that teams know what we are going to go - or at least try to do and game plan to stop us.

Creativity would be a sight to see. Our offense has been the same for 10 years and we wonder why teams have caught up to us or passed us.

[AppState89]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Fans had his cell number and sent him hate messages online and to his cell number. It's documented on the Cabin.

We need to have a researcher for the board.

oh how we forget....

DOTE vs AppFAN1 in the debate ring on Network news Channels is my dream!!!!

You are so correct about those hate messages. Even directed some at his girlfriend (wife now) at the time. A lot of hateful people out there and Zac is one of the nicest guys you would ever meet. Good chance he would have come back, but that's all history now. App State lost out on that one.

[RaleighApp27609]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Fans had his cell number and sent him hate messages online and to his cell number. It's documented on the Cabin.

We need to have a researcher for the board.

oh how we forget....

DOTE vs AppFAN1 in the debate ring on Network news Channels is my dream!!!!

You are so correct about those hate messages. Even directed some at his girlfriend (wife now) at the time. A lot of hateful people out there and Zac is one of the nicest guys you would ever meet. Good chance he would have come back, but that's all history now. App State lost out on that one.

What was the reasoning for the hate? He won how many conference championships for us?

[AppState89]

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Fans had his cell number and sent him hate messages online and to his cell number. It's documented on the Cabin.

We need to have a researcher for the board.

oh how we forget....

DOTE vs AppFAN1 in the debate ring on Network news Channels is my dream!!!!

You are so correct about those hate messages. Even directed some at his girlfriend (wife now) at the time. A lot of hateful people out there and Zac is one of the nicest guys you would ever meet. Good chance he would have come back, but that's all history now. App State lost out on that one.

What was the reasoning for the hate? He won how many conference championships for us?

The Coastal Carolina game was the biggie when he threw several ints. It really got bad, really bad.

[appstatealum]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Zac was a head case. Not saying that lightly or to be funny. No OC would have helped that. He struggled with poise. Ponce lack of play calling ability would've made things worse

[AppStFan1]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Zac was a head case. Not saying that lightly or to be funny. No OC would have helped that. He struggled with poise. Ponce lack of play calling ability would've made things worse

That is true he was a head case? I just remember the talk that he would have preferred playing for Ponce. I had heard from a couple people around the team that if not for TP they believe Zac would have returned.

[MrCraig]

We could do better on misdirection and pre-snap movement. Some creativity could help. Our coaches are - or should be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the team. All teams have strengths and weaknesses. The good teams navigate around them - and are still successful. We are not doing that. If a team stuffs our run game - we continue to run etc.... Not saying there are no other issues - just that teams know what we are going to go - or at least try to do and game plan to stop us.

Creativity would be a sight to see. Our offense has been the same for 10 years and we wonder why teams have caught up to us or passed us.

No it hasn’t. During the Satterfield days App won a primarily stretch run- zone blocking scheme out of the pistol. They don’t do that anymore. Most plays are out of the shotgun. It would actually be nice if we had a more solid offensive identity.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Joey has the tools to be a solid QB, but the play calling must put him in a position to be successful. The way Roberts was running last night should have allowed us to be more conservative with deep balls. ULL also struggled to cover WRs on the short crossing patterns.

Our situational play calling was way too aggressive at various parts of the game.

Joey will make at least one bad decision a game, but we shouldn’t put him in a position to make 5-6 per game.

More than one my friend....

Go find a Zac Thomas type, fanbase ran him out after year 4 and he had a CoVID year he passed on, blame yourselves for that one.

Fans did not do that. He was not a big fan of the OC at the time and if Ponce had come in the first week of December I believe Zac would have returned.

Zac was a head case. Not saying that lightly or to be funny. No OC would have helped that. He struggled with poise. Ponce lack of play calling ability would've made things worse

That is true. I just remember the talk that he would have preferred playing for Ponce. I had heard from a couple people around the team that if not for TP they believe Zac would have returned.

Zac Thomas was the QB on the 2019 team that went 13-1, ranked 18/19 in the polls and you guys are calling him a Head Case, this proves all of my points.......... OMG

He beat UNC and USC !!!

the above members should be banned. unreal.