App State hires new assistant GM

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:12 pm

This is an interesting hire because his father is a NFL GM and Landon has worked for the Cardinals so he has NFL experience like Loggains and some of our other coaches. Congrats to Landon! I have to also give props to Weston Scambler on his coverage. He is a working hard at putting out info and does a good job. He is one of our own so we should all be pulling for him!

https://x.com/WestonScambler/status/1939804826252071230

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by 311neers » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:39 pm

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Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:12 pm
This is an interesting hire because his father is a NFL GM and Landon has worked for the Cardinals so he has NFL experience like Loggains and some of our other coaches. Congrats to Landon! I have to also give props to Weston Scambler on his coverage. He is a working hard at putting out info and does a good job. He is one of our own so we should all be pulling for him!

https://x.com/WestonScambler/status/1939804826252071230
The other son is on the team. Wide receiver.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:21 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:12 pm
This is an interesting hire because his father is a NFL GM and Landon has worked for the Cardinals so he has NFL experience like Loggains and some of our other coaches. Congrats to Landon! I have to also give props to Weston Scambler on his coverage. He is a working hard at putting out info and does a good job. He is one of our own so we should all be pulling for him!

https://x.com/WestonScambler/status/1939804826252071230
Weston is doing a great job providing info. He is putting in a lot of time and effort for free.

Now that we have a Grier on staff and on the roster, I hope Chris Grier is donating something to NIL :D

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:22 pm

311neers wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:39 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:12 pm
This is an interesting hire because his father is a NFL GM and Landon has worked for the Cardinals so he has NFL experience like Loggains and some of our other coaches. Congrats to Landon! I have to also give props to Weston Scambler on his coverage. He is a working hard at putting out info and does a good job. He is one of our own so we should all be pulling for him!

https://x.com/WestonScambler/status/1939804826252071230
The other son is on the team. Wide receiver.
I saw that he was transferring in. That certainly helps as well.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:23 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:21 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:12 pm
This is an interesting hire because his father is a NFL GM and Landon has worked for the Cardinals so he has NFL experience like Loggains and some of our other coaches. Congrats to Landon! I have to also give props to Weston Scambler on his coverage. He is a working hard at putting out info and does a good job. He is one of our own so we should all be pulling for him!

https://x.com/WestonScambler/status/1939804826252071230
Weston is doing a great job providing info. He is putting in a lot of time and effort for free.

Now that we have a Grier on staff and on the roster, I hope Chris Grier is donating something to NIL :D
He is putting in a lot of effort for sure. Love to see student show that passion! Everyone starts out doing free work in the biz it seems like. It will be interesting to see where he ends up!

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm

Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm

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Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm
Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm
Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.
It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm
Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.
It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:44 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm
Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.
It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
You sound like real fun at parties...
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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by Bootsy » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:09 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm
Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.
It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
Eric? Is that you?

On another note…Grier sorta looks like Jermaine Jackson, so he’s got that going for him.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:35 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:44 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm
Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.
It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
You sound like real fun at parties...
I love to joke around but after a joke is told once it does not need to keep being told, especially a lame one. That is what middle school kids do.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:36 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:09 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:24 pm
Couldn't DLo do this job in addition to HC responsibilities and serving drinks on the sidelines?
I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.
It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
Eric? Is that you?

On another note…Grier sorta looks like Jermaine Jackson, so he’s got that going for him.
No and if you look back I was not the one who said that our finances are a big problem. I was simply replying to AppSt94 saying that.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by Bootsy » Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:02 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:36 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:09 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:32 pm


I simply offered something as a way to lower costs to those of you complaining that we don't make enough money and saying maybe we can find ways to lower the budget. No need to make a lame joke about every hire. You know having Loggains do what you said is not what I meant.
It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
Eric? Is that you?

On another note…Grier sorta looks like Jermaine Jackson, so he’s got that going for him.
No and if you look back I was not the one who said that our finances are a big problem. I was simply replying to AppSt94 saying that.
OK. So, what ideas do YOU have (that don’t involve gutting every other sport or violating Title IX six ways from Sunday) to cure the budget ills of App State Football?

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by DoesntEvenGoHere » Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:22 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:02 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:36 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:09 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm

It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
Eric? Is that you?

On another note…Grier sorta looks like Jermaine Jackson, so he’s got that going for him.
No and if you look back I was not the one who said that our finances are a big problem. I was simply replying to AppSt94 saying that.
OK. So, what ideas do YOU have (that don’t involve gutting every other sport or violating Title IX six ways from Sunday) to cure the budget ills of App State Football?
See, the problem is admin have to eat their own to survive & very few in the country have had the gonads to do it.

Texas A&M just a few years ago hired a new AD & he restructured the department because of the insanity of spending. New hires and salary increases for staff for literally no reason. Not production, revenue generation, nothing. He came it, analyzed the situation and cut ties with a lot of people making more money than the position they held should be valued at & cut entire positions if they were not needed.

We can't do it that drastically because we don't have the fat like A&M did. But if anyone in our athletic department does have fat, and the most understanding of our financial crisis - it's the administration from the top down.

The budget should focus heavily on ensuring that we meet (at best effort) the status quo if not nationally, then regionally or compared to like schools for our main programs. If we can't get there by trimming staff & what fat we can find in our expenses, then admin must start looking at their own salaries & potentially cutting sports.

No one wants to do it, it's just the nature of the beast.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by Yosef10 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:39 pm

The trimming of athletic departments across the country is going to be a common theme with the revenue sharing.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:04 am

Bootsy wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:02 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:36 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:09 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:41 pm

It's a message board. If you do not want responses, put it in your personal Facebook page. Grow up

If you think we do not make enough money, give more yourself.
I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
Eric? Is that you?

On another note…Grier sorta looks like Jermaine Jackson, so he’s got that going for him.
No and if you look back I was not the one who said that our finances are a big problem. I was simply replying to AppSt94 saying that.
OK. So, what ideas do YOU have (that don’t involve gutting every other sport or violating Title IX six ways from Sunday) to cure the budget ills of App State Football?
I am not the one who complained. I have been the one asking others for ideas. A lot of tough decisions are going to be made. I don't want to violate Title IX but I am wondering if schools would have football separate from the school and just be sponsored so those scholarships don't count or if schools just drop to D3 to be non-scholarship? I do think these girls are going to sue their way into a situation they will not like eventually. ADs are openly talking about eventually having a CBA, which means it WILL happen. We know how the NFL works with it but I would imagine it would still be a little different with schools. This will be uncharted territory.

If non-revenue sports for men and women were really smart they would have just not sued and enjoyed having the opportunity. When you don't have games on TV and you can't attract more than 500 people to an event you can't expect to be treated the same as football. If the law says you have to be under the current system then something will be created to get around it and those non-revenue sports won't like what happens.

I know we have a few here who disagree with me but I bet if you polled every alumni and student the the majority of people would be fine with however other sports do as long as football and basketball (to smaller extent baseball) are championship caliber. For example, I wish women's and men's tennis luck but if they are the worst team in the league I won't be upset by it. I think these lawsuits are going to put colleges in a position that they might decide to just provide the opportunity to those sports but not really worry about how they do. The Michigan win in football did more for our school than 5 straight men's or women's national titles in tennis would do. Just a simple fact.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:46 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:04 am
Bootsy wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:02 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:36 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:09 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:25 pm


I welcome adult responses any time but I think lame jokes that we would have told in high school is beneath us after we are 21 years old.

You should tell others to give more because I was not the one complaining. I never have said we don't have enough money to be competitive in the SBC.
Eric? Is that you?

On another note…Grier sorta looks like Jermaine Jackson, so he’s got that going for him.
No and if you look back I was not the one who said that our finances are a big problem. I was simply replying to AppSt94 saying that.
OK. So, what ideas do YOU have (that don’t involve gutting every other sport or violating Title IX six ways from Sunday) to cure the budget ills of App State Football?
I am not the one who complained. I have been the one asking others for ideas. A lot of tough decisions are going to be made. I don't want to violate Title IX but I am wondering if schools would have football separate from the school and just be sponsored so those scholarships don't count or if schools just drop to D3 to be non-scholarship? I do think these girls are going to sue their way into a situation they will not like eventually. ADs are openly talking about eventually having a CBA, which means it WILL happen. We know how the NFL works with it but I would imagine it would still be a little different with schools. This will be uncharted territory.

If non-revenue sports for men and women were really smart they would have just not sued and enjoyed having the opportunity. When you don't have games on TV and you can't attract more than 500 people to an event you can't expect to be treated the same as football. If the law says you have to be under the current system then something will be created to get around it and those non-revenue sports won't like what happens.

I know we have a few here who disagree with me but I bet if you polled every alumni and student the the majority of people would be fine with however other sports do as long as football and basketball (to smaller extent baseball) are championship caliber. For example, I wish women's and men's tennis luck but if they are the worst team in the league I won't be upset by it. I think these lawsuits are going to put colleges in a position that they might decide to just provide the opportunity to those sports but not really worry about how they do. The Michigan win in football did more for our school than 5 straight men's or women's national titles in tennis would do. Just a simple fact.
No one was complaining. What you took as complaining was in fact the reality of the current situation. Because it wasn’t what you wanted to hear, you called it complaining, or as others have used the term “excuses”. The “ideas” that you were asking for weren’t what you wanted to hear.

To keep things going we need to invent new revenue streams. It’s that simple. Giving football and basketball a larger piece of the pie isn’t making more pie, it’s just starving those that are losing what is already crumbs. Is that an option? Certainly. Is it a good option? No. What you are suggesting is a fan centric model. The Athletic Department and the University have to operate within rules and guidelines that mitigate the risk of losing federal and state funding.

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Re: App State hires new assistant GM

Unread post by appst89 » Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:57 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:46 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:04 am
Bootsy wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:02 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:36 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:09 pm

Eric? Is that you?

On another note…Grier sorta looks like Jermaine Jackson, so he’s got that going for him.
No and if you look back I was not the one who said that our finances are a big problem. I was simply replying to AppSt94 saying that.
OK. So, what ideas do YOU have (that don’t involve gutting every other sport or violating Title IX six ways from Sunday) to cure the budget ills of App State Football?
I am not the one who complained. I have been the one asking others for ideas. A lot of tough decisions are going to be made. I don't want to violate Title IX but I am wondering if schools would have football separate from the school and just be sponsored so those scholarships don't count or if schools just drop to D3 to be non-scholarship? I do think these girls are going to sue their way into a situation they will not like eventually. ADs are openly talking about eventually having a CBA, which means it WILL happen. We know how the NFL works with it but I would imagine it would still be a little different with schools. This will be uncharted territory.

If non-revenue sports for men and women were really smart they would have just not sued and enjoyed having the opportunity. When you don't have games on TV and you can't attract more than 500 people to an event you can't expect to be treated the same as football. If the law says you have to be under the current system then something will be created to get around it and those non-revenue sports won't like what happens.

I know we have a few here who disagree with me but I bet if you polled every alumni and student the the majority of people would be fine with however other sports do as long as football and basketball (to smaller extent baseball) are championship caliber. For example, I wish women's and men's tennis luck but if they are the worst team in the league I won't be upset by it. I think these lawsuits are going to put colleges in a position that they might decide to just provide the opportunity to those sports but not really worry about how they do. The Michigan win in football did more for our school than 5 straight men's or women's national titles in tennis would do. Just a simple fact.
No one was complaining. What you took as complaining was in fact the reality of the current situation. Because it wasn’t what you wanted to hear, you called it complaining, or as others have used the term “excuses”. The “ideas” that you were asking for weren’t what you wanted to hear.

To keep things going we need to invent new revenue streams. It’s that simple. Giving football and basketball a larger piece of the pie isn’t making more pie, it’s just starving those that are losing what is already crumbs. Is that an option? Certainly. Is it a good option? No. What you are suggesting is a fan centric model. The Athletic Department and the University have to operate within rules and guidelines that mitigate the risk of losing federal and state funding.
I'm curious how you think the clash between Title IX and the the Sherman Act is going to play out. They cannot both be enforced at the same time.

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