Liberty question

[MJ1988]

384 people have looked at this post, 19 have responded but only 3 have answered the question. That tells me that very few of us fans are willing to put any expectation on this coaching staff. I asked, should this coaching staff be able to take the players they currently have and beat a good FCS team, Liberty? Not will we win or lose but should we? I can only hope that those in position of power within our athletic department are more willing to make it clear to this coaching staff that ASU has real and high expectations. As for me my answer is yes, I think we should expect this coaching staff to take the players they have and beat a good FCS team.

[appbio91]

384 people have looked at this post, 19 have responded but only 3 have answered the question. That tells me that very few of us fans are willing to put any expectation on this coaching staff. I asked, should this coaching staff be able to take the players they currently have and beat a good FCS team, Liberty? Not will we win or lose but should we? I can only hope that those in position of power within our athletic department are more willing to make it clear to this coaching staff that ASU has real and high expectations. As for me my answer is yes, I think we should expect this coaching staff to take the players they have and beat a good FCS team.

I will answer this way. Yes 100% we should expect to win. Our coach just got a raise that puts him in line with other SB head coaches. If we can't put together a game plan to beat Liberty then we have the right to question the coaching staff. But if we see what we have seen so far which is poor play and total lack of execution then we have to conclude we are just not worth a shit and Jerry Moore or Jesus himself could not help this team.

See my previous post as to what I true believe will happen this weekend.

[Saint3333]

Should we beat Liberty? Yes

Should we lose does that change the position that Satterfield should get 2015 if not 2016 given what he inherited and the move to FBS? No

That may not sit well with some. But that is reality.

[App91]

SHOULD we? Yes. We are APP STATE!
Should and did are 2 different things. So far this team has shown nothing that they SHOULD do anything.
It is what is expected from us as it SHOULD be. We are APP STATE!
Will is happen, I have my doubts. See CSU and A&T circa 2013.

[huskie3]

Should we win, YES
Will we win I HAVE EVERY EXPECTATION WE WILL
Will I be there YES

[AppState89]

384 people have looked at this post, 19 have responded but only 3 have answered the question. That tells me that very few of us fans are willing to put any expectation on this coaching staff. I asked, should this coaching staff be able to take the players they currently have and beat a good FCS team, Liberty? Not will we win or lose but should we? I can only hope that those in position of power within our athletic department are more willing to make it clear to this coaching staff that ASU has real and high expectations. As for me my answer is yes, I think we should expect this coaching staff to take the players they have and beat a good FCS team.

We went 4-8 last year against just okay FCS teams. Liberty is a good FCS team and we are playing the same as we did last year. WE SHOULD, but ......I beat we don't...

[WataugaMan]

Just because we have been "battle tested" has no bearing on beating Liberty.

Just trying hard to be positive, that's all. By the way, I believe the coach you're speaking of said, "You are what your record says you are."

I'm thinking of Bill Parcells.

[appbio91]

384 people have looked at this post, 19 have responded but only 3 have answered the question. That tells me that very few of us fans are willing to put any expectation on this coaching staff. I asked, should this coaching staff be able to take the players they currently have and beat a good FCS team, Liberty? Not will we win or lose but should we? I can only hope that those in position of power within our athletic department are more willing to make it clear to this coaching staff that ASU has real and high expectations. As for me my answer is yes, I think we should expect this coaching staff to take the players they have and beat a good FCS team.

We went 4-8 last year against just okay FCS teams. Liberty is a good FCS team and we are playing the same as we did last year. WE SHOULD, but ......I beat we don't...

If we don't win this board will totally melt down. It is in partial melt down already.

[HeffnerIV]

384 people have looked at this post, 19 have responded but only 3 have answered the question. That tells me that very few of us fans are willing to put any expectation on this coaching staff. I asked, should this coaching staff be able to take the players they currently have and beat a good FCS team, Liberty? Not will we win or lose but should we? I can only hope that those in position of power within our athletic department are more willing to make it clear to this coaching staff that ASU has real and high expectations. As for me my answer is yes, I think we should expect this coaching staff to take the players they have and beat a good FCS team.

We went 4-8 last year against just okay FCS teams. Liberty is a good FCS team and we are playing the same as we did last year. WE SHOULD, but ......I beat we don't...

If we don't win this board will totally melt down. It is in partial melt down already.

Nothing more true has been written on this board. Considering how much some folks here hate Liberty, we may have to confiscate belts and shoe laces.

[asutrnr81]

This may be the wrong thread but....

After listening to S. Miss, watching in person GSU and not SA, the recruiting required to make this move was NOT in place prior, and maybe not to be a strong FCS team.

We are physically and athletically overmatched right now with the FBS schedule we are playing. That being said.....we'd be probably winning in the SoCon but I could not stand that. I do not think our coaching staff has lost anyone, or anything. We are just simply physically and athletically overmatched right now.

Now effort is a whole other story. I expect us to compete, and where heart and intent come together, good things can hAPPen.

[AppGrad1]

This may be the wrong thread but....

After listening to S. Miss, watching in person GSU and not SA, the recruiting required to make this move was NOT in place prior, and maybe not to be a strong FCS team.

We are physically and athletically overmatched right now with the FBS schedule we are playing. That being said.....we'd be probably winning in the SoCon but I could not stand that. I do not think our coaching staff has lost anyone, or anything. We are just simply physically and athletically overmatched right now.

Now effort is a whole other story. I expect us to compete, and where heart and intent come together, good things can hAPPen.

We have been physically out matched in the fcs for years too when we reached the playoffs.

[Saint3333]

That is a good point. Since 2009 we got beat on the lines in the playoffs. The weakness/decline of the SoCon in the late 2000's masked those weaknesses.

I do think we have some young talented lineman in Fernandez, Small, Nunn, Collins, Gossett, but we don't have enough of them through a year or two of good S&C programming.

[WVAPPeer]

That is a good point. Since 2009 we got beat on the lines in the playoffs. The weakness/decline of the SoCon in the late 2000's masked those weaknesses.

I do think we have some young talented lineman in Fernandez, Small, Nunn, Collins, Gossett, but we don't have enough of them through a year or two of good S&C programming.

True - plus we had to build the defense to win the SoCon where half the opponents ran some variation of the triple option - teams usually employ that offense when they can't overmatch the defense with size and strength - we were built to win the SoCon --- plus as the years went on more teams were learning how to defense the spread option - APP was surely ahead of the curve with that offense ---

[AppState89]

That is a good point. Since 2009 we got beat on the lines in the playoffs. The weakness/decline of the SoCon in the late 2000's masked those weaknesses.

I do think we have some young talented lineman in Fernandez, Small, Nunn, Collins, Gossett, but we don't have enough of them through a year or two of good S&C programming.

I agree and I think we all saw that Saturday night. USA's O and D linemen looked like the HULK out there. They were so much stronger than we were. I know they were mostly senior and we will get stronger too, but I think we will see the same each week until the end of the season, even from Ga State and Idaho.

[ASUPATCH]

Liberty is coming off two straight FCS losses, this could get CAMPBELL ugly.

They lost in OT to UR and lost on the road to 4-1 Indiana State. We are not playing another Campbell.

They also gave up 400+ rushing yards to BREVARD COLLEGE........we will do what we want on offense.

[hapapp]

Liberty is coming off two straight FCS losses, this could get CAMPBELL ugly.

They lost in OT to UR and lost on the road to 4-1 Indiana State. We are not playing another Campbell.

They also gave up 400+ rushing yards to BREVARD COLLEGE........we will do what we want on offense.

I don't disagree that we should be able to move the ball on them. But, they are much better on both sides of the ball than Campbell. I believe we will win this game but I don't think we should take them too lightly.

[Rekdiver]

This may be the wrong thread but....

After listening to S. Miss, watching in person GSU and not SA, the recruiting required to make this move was NOT in place prior, and maybe not to be a strong FCS team.

We are physically and athletically overmatched right now with the FBS schedule we are playing. That being said.....we'd be probably winning in the SoCon but I could not stand that. I do not think our coaching staff has lost anyone, or anything. We are just simply physically and athletically overmatched right now.

Now effort is a whole other story. I expect us to compete, and where heart and intent come together, good things can hAPPen.

We have been physically out matched in the fcs for years too when we reached the playoffs.

Ding Ding Ding!!! Tell the folks what they've won Don!

[WVAPPeer]

Liberty is coming off two straight FCS losses, this could get CAMPBELL ugly.

They lost in OT to UR and lost on the road to 4-1 Indiana State. We are not playing another Campbell.

They also gave up 400+ rushing yards to BREVARD COLLEGE........we will do what we want on offense.

I don't disagree that we should be able to move the ball on them. But, they are much better on both sides of the ball than Campbell. I believe we will win this game but I don't think we should take them too lightly.

Don't think we can take anyone lightly even if we were playing Campbell again ---

[WVAPPeer]

This may be the wrong thread but....

After listening to S. Miss, watching in person GSU and not SA, the recruiting required to make this move was NOT in place prior, and maybe not to be a strong FCS team.

We are physically and athletically overmatched right now with the FBS schedule we are playing. That being said.....we'd be probably winning in the SoCon but I could not stand that. I do not think our coaching staff has lost anyone, or anything. We are just simply physically and athletically overmatched right now.

Now effort is a whole other story. I expect us to compete, and where heart and intent come together, good things can hAPPen.

We have been physically out matched in the fcs for years too when we reached the playoffs.

Well I don't quite remember that the same as you - In '08 we lost to Richmond because Armanti was hurt and they went on to win the NC --- In '09 we lost at Montana in a game which could have gone either way --- In '10 we lost to Villanova who were defending national champs and better than us and yes they did overmatch us --- In '11 we lost to Maine which was not a better team than us --- In - '12 we lost to Ill State (unfortunately I missed that one because of a family death) but wasn't it a 1 point game in OT? - again a game which could have gone either way ---

[ASUMountaineer]

This may be the wrong thread but....

After listening to S. Miss, watching in person GSU and not SA, the recruiting required to make this move was NOT in place prior, and maybe not to be a strong FCS team.

We are physically and athletically overmatched right now with the FBS schedule we are playing. That being said.....we'd be probably winning in the SoCon but I could not stand that. I do not think our coaching staff has lost anyone, or anything. We are just simply physically and athletically overmatched right now.

Now effort is a whole other story. I expect us to compete, and where heart and intent come together, good things can hAPPen.

We have been physically out matched in the fcs for years too when we reached the playoffs.

Well I don't quite remember that the same as you - In '08 we lost to Richmond because Armanti was hurt and they went on to win the NC --- In '09 we lost at Montana in a game which could have gone either way --- In '10 we lost to Villanova who were defending national champs and better than us and yes they did overmatch us --- In '11 we lost to Maine which was not a better team than us --- In - '12 we lost to Ill State (unfortunately I missed that one because of a family death) but wasn't it a 1 point game in OT? - again a game which could have gone either way ---

A 1-point game due to a blocked PAT...with white helmet decals!