A W is a W

[T-Dog]

I do think Lamb was hesitant at times as he stayed squared up to throw while rolling out. A couple times he took a 2-3 yard loss out of bounds when he should have thrown it away ans Satterfield mentioned it post-game. Troy made us uncomfortable on offense.

[Rekdiver]

I hear your comments but think you are off base Taylor is not elite but manages the offense. He got away from the rush multiple times and only made one poor decision. He has a good understanding of the game and has made big boats with his feet and arm. There is a respect from the players and a chemistry with Taylor that you don't want to mess with. Only injury or a complete meltdown will cost him his job

[appbio91]

I will say that David would not have come to App as a 3 star guy with other offers if he thought the position was locked down. He knows he will get a shot. As far as Lamb is concerned he is doing a great job leading this team. Putting the FCS label on him is unfair. Yes he was a red shirt that disastrous final year but he was recruited to be an FBS QB and he is a damn fine one. He is putting up great numbers. Even yesterday as bad as it looked at times he threw for two and ran for two, almost 200 yards passing I think. Would he be doing that in the SEC probably not but the Sun Belt aint the SEC. I get the OP's point that QB is key to a team on the rise, I just happen to think Taylor more than capable.



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[appstatealum]

I hate that my first post on here came off negatively. I love this team and I love the "are you crazy" responses. I want my App brethren to lift me up and say Lamb can get it done. Being "good enough" will never.be good enough for me. I will never boo a student athlete, but I will expect greatness from anyone who wears the Black and Gold.

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That is a ridiculous statement. Being good enough is never good enough for you? YOU expect greatness? YOU are a guy who sits in the stands and hopes the kids win. they are 18-22 year old kids and THEY are the ones who should strive for greatness. YOU are a spectator and nothing more. Your critique of Lamb is short sighted. He is a sophomore and his team is currently 7-1. What exactly do you mean the team is moving too fast for Lamb? Again, you will have some people on this board who are down on Lamb and will back you. I just don't get why you are borrowing problems our team doesn't have. You want the backup to play who doesn't even exist.

Apparently you just want to be confrontational.... Im not asking to bench Lamb, Im not saying he sucks, and I do not want an unproven back up QB to takeover. I am just seeing him as a chink in the armor moving forward. He may continue to develop and figure it out. It is just an observation and worth talking about. If you do not see it as an issue, say so in one comment and do not antagonize.

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[EastHallApp]

I disagree with appstatealum's post, but wish people would lay off the attacks.

I think Lamb is a very good QB. Is he an elite physical talent? No. But he's a very good G5 QB, and it's easy to forget he's only a sophomore because he's generally so reliable.

Other thing I will say is I think our athletic limitations are possibly greater at WR than at QB. Perhaps one reason he holds the ball too long or throws it away a lot is that nobody is open? Our senior WRs are smart, experienced players, but they're all limited athletically. I think we've got some higher-upside guys behind them who just need to learn to do what the coaches expect and play more consistently.

[AppSt94]

I hate that my first post on here came off negatively. I love this team and I love the "are you crazy" responses. I want my App brethren to lift me up and say Lamb can get it done. Being "good enough" will never.be good enough for me. I will never boo a student athlete, but I will expect greatness from anyone who wears the Black and Gold.

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That is a ridiculous statement. Being good enough is never good enough for you? YOU expect greatness? YOU are a guy who sits in the stands and hopes the kids win. they are 18-22 year old kids and THEY are the ones who should strive for greatness. YOU are a spectator and nothing more. Your critique of Lamb is short sighted. He is a sophomore and his team is currently 7-1. What exactly do you mean the team is moving too fast for Lamb? Again, you will have some people on this board who are down on Lamb and will back you. I just don't get why you are borrowing problems our team doesn't have. You want the backup to play who doesn't even exist.

Apparently you just want to be confrontational.... Im not asking to bench Lamb, Im not saying he sucks, and I do not want an unproven back up QB to takeover. I am just seeing him as a chink in the armor moving forward. He may continue to develop and figure it out. It is just an observation and worth talking about. If you do not see it as an issue, say so in one comment and do not antagonize.

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Your original statement suggest that it easy for us to go out and get an elite high school QB.

[appstatealum]

I hate that my first post on here came off negatively. I love this team and I love the "are you crazy" responses. I want my App brethren to lift me up and say Lamb can get it done. Being "good enough" will never.be good enough for me. I will never boo a student athlete, but I will expect greatness from anyone who wears the Black and Gold.

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That is a ridiculous statement. Being good enough is never good enough for you? YOU expect greatness? YOU are a guy who sits in the stands and hopes the kids win. they are 18-22 year old kids and THEY are the ones who should strive for greatness. YOU are a spectator and nothing more. Your critique of Lamb is short sighted. He is a sophomore and his team is currently 7-1. What exactly do you mean the team is moving too fast for Lamb? Again, you will have some people on this board who are down on Lamb and will back you. I just don't get why you are borrowing problems our team doesn't have. You want the backup to play who doesn't even exist.

Apparently you just want to be confrontational.... Im not asking to bench Lamb, Im not saying he sucks, and I do not want an unproven back up QB to takeover. I am just seeing him as a chink in the armor moving forward. He may continue to develop and figure it out. It is just an observation and worth talking about. If you do not see it as an issue, say so in one comment and do not antagonize.

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I also take offense to your "just a spectator" comment. No true App fan/Alum should feel like "just a spectator". The spectators are the ones who walk out at halftime, dont show up when the weather is bad, and do not know the roster up and down. I feel a connection to the team, pride for my school, and support them with my hard earned money. Maybe that's what is missing, that incredible App State pride and aura that surrounded teams of old. I can tell you that a lot of the players and coaches of the `05 Championship team, quite a few that I was close to, never considered the App faithful "just spectators". We wouldn't be caring enough to post on here about a college football team, driving hours to games, teaching our kids the chants if we were all just spectators

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[appstatealum]

I hate that my first post on here came off negatively. I love this team and I love the "are you crazy" responses. I want my App brethren to lift me up and say Lamb can get it done. Being "good enough" will never.be good enough for me. I will never boo a student athlete, but I will expect greatness from anyone who wears the Black and Gold.

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That is a ridiculous statement. Being good enough is never good enough for you? YOU expect greatness? YOU are a guy who sits in the stands and hopes the kids win. they are 18-22 year old kids and THEY are the ones who should strive for greatness. YOU are a spectator and nothing more. Your critique of Lamb is short sighted. He is a sophomore and his team is currently 7-1. What exactly do you mean the team is moving too fast for Lamb? Again, you will have some people on this board who are down on Lamb and will back you. I just don't get why you are borrowing problems our team doesn't have. You want the backup to play who doesn't even exist.

Apparently you just want to be confrontational.... Im not asking to bench Lamb, Im not saying he sucks, and I do not want an unproven back up QB to takeover. I am just seeing him as a chink in the armor moving forward. He may continue to develop and figure it out. It is just an observation and worth talking about. If you do not see it as an issue, say so in one comment and do not antagonize.

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Your original statement suggest that it easy for us to go out and get an elite high school QB.

Not at all. I do not know what the answer is, just trying to break down this team and see where we can improve to continue to propel ourselves on the FBS stage. I wanted to start a conversation, see if people see similar things. I appreciate hearing differing opinions, I don't appreciate attacks to my character.

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[App91]

Wow. I guess I made a mistake in thinking this is a place where we can have an intelligent conversation. I am not "trolling" this board, im simply pointing out something a lot of App faithful are seeing. If you reference my original post, I like Lamb, he was a great FCS to FBS recruit. However, I have noticed his increasing indecisiveness in the pocket when under pressure. Im simply looking to have a conversation on where this team can improve to solidify their place as a top G5 school.

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Yes, you cannot offer any opinion other than everything is great,we are the best. Goes a few years back, some do not want to hear anything but roses and certainly cannot discuss without getting personal and calling names. Thought you said you had read this board a while?

[App91]

I disagree with appstatealum's post, but wish people would lay off the attacks.

I think Lamb is a very good QB. Is he an elite physical talent? No. But he's a very good G5 QB, and it's easy to forget he's only a sophomore because he's generally so reliable.

Other thing I will say is I think our athletic limitations are possibly greater at WR than at QB. Perhaps one reason he holds the ball too long or throws it away a lot is that nobody is open? Our senior WRs are smart, experienced players, but they're all limited athletically. I think we've got some higher-upside guys behind them who just need to learn to do what the coaches expect and play more consistently.

Not sure that I agree about the WR, last nights poor play, and it was poor-no doubt-was i think due to the OL. We got whipped up front most of the night.

[appbio91]

I disagree with appstatealum's post, but wish people would lay off the attacks.

I think Lamb is a very good QB. Is he an elite physical talent? No. But he's a very good G5 QB, and it's easy to forget he's only a sophomore because he's generally so reliable.

Other thing I will say is I think our athletic limitations are possibly greater at WR than at QB. Perhaps one reason he holds the ball too long or throws it away a lot is that nobody is open? Our senior WRs are smart, experienced players, but they're all limited athletically. I think we've got some higher-upside guys behind them who just need to learn to do what the coaches expect and play more consistently.

Speaking of WR's what's going on with Meadors. He just does not seem to be involved at all. I assumed he would be a weapon this year.

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[appstatealum]

I disagree with appstatealum's post, but wish people would lay off the attacks.

I think Lamb is a very good QB. Is he an elite physical talent? No. But he's a very good G5 QB, and it's easy to forget he's only a sophomore because he's generally so reliable.

Other thing I will say is I think our athletic limitations are possibly greater at WR than at QB. Perhaps one reason he holds the ball too long or throws it away a lot is that nobody is open? Our senior WRs are smart, experienced players, but they're all limited athletically. I think we've got some higher-upside guys behind them who just need to learn to do what the coaches expect and play more consistently.

Speaking of WR's what's going on with Meadors. He just does not seem to be involved at all. I assumed he would be a weapon this year.

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Great point. I've even noticed he has not even been in the game at key times. Problems at practice? At times, Meadors has looked unstoppable. He definitely has some of the most reliable hands on the team.

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[AppSt94]

I hate that my first post on here came off negatively. I love this team and I love the "are you crazy" responses. I want my App brethren to lift me up and say Lamb can get it done. Being "good enough" will never.be good enough for me. I will never boo a student athlete, but I will expect greatness from anyone who wears the Black and Gold.

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That is a ridiculous statement. Being good enough is never good enough for you? YOU expect greatness? YOU are a guy who sits in the stands and hopes the kids win. they are 18-22 year old kids and THEY are the ones who should strive for greatness. YOU are a spectator and nothing more. Your critique of Lamb is short sighted. He is a sophomore and his team is currently 7-1. What exactly do you mean the team is moving too fast for Lamb? Again, you will have some people on this board who are down on Lamb and will back you. I just don't get why you are borrowing problems our team doesn't have. You want the backup to play who doesn't even exist.

Apparently you just want to be confrontational.... Im not asking to bench Lamb, Im not saying he sucks, and I do not want an unproven back up QB to takeover. I am just seeing him as a chink in the armor moving forward. He may continue to develop and figure it out. It is just an observation and worth talking about. If you do not see it as an issue, say so in one comment and do not antagonize.

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Your original statement suggest that it easy for us to go out and get an elite high school QB.

Not at all. I do not know what the answer is, just trying to break down this team and see where we can improve to continue to propel ourselves on the FBS stage. I wanted to start a conversation, see if people see similar things. I appreciate hearing differing opinions, I don't appreciate attacks to my character.

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Fair point. However, your original post suggest that Taylor isn't the answer and now you are saying that you aren't sure what the answer is. Maybe the answer is that we get better as a team by practicing hard everyday rather than looking to replace good players. Football is the ultimate team game. All 11 players must perform their job at a high level for a play to work the way it is supposed to. I get your point but when you single out the QB then you are essentially stirring up a QB controversy, (whether intended or not) and that is not a topic that generally spurns a friendly conversation.

[AppSt94]

Isn't Meadors behind Jones on the depth chart? If so that would explain why he isn't out there as much.

[appstatealum]

That is a ridiculous statement. Being good enough is never good enough for you? YOU expect greatness? YOU are a guy who sits in the stands and hopes the kids win. they are 18-22 year old kids and THEY are the ones who should strive for greatness. YOU are a spectator and nothing more. Your critique of Lamb is short sighted. He is a sophomore and his team is currently 7-1. What exactly do you mean the team is moving too fast for Lamb? Again, you will have some people on this board who are down on Lamb and will back you. I just don't get why you are borrowing problems our team doesn't have. You want the backup to play who doesn't even exist.

Apparently you just want to be confrontational.... Im not asking to bench Lamb, Im not saying he sucks, and I do not want an unproven back up QB to takeover. I am just seeing him as a chink in the armor moving forward. He may continue to develop and figure it out. It is just an observation and worth talking about. If you do not see it as an issue, say so in one comment and do not antagonize.

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Your original statement suggest that it easy for us to go out and get an elite high school QB.

Not at all. I do not know what the answer is, just trying to break down this team and see where we can improve to continue to propel ourselves on the FBS stage. I wanted to start a conversation, see if people see similar things. I appreciate hearing differing opinions, I don't appreciate attacks to my character.

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Fair point. However, your original post suggest that Taylor isn't the answer and now you are saying that you aren't sure what the answer is. Maybe the answer is that we get better as a team by practicing hard everyday rather than looking to replace good players. Football is the ultimate team game. All 11 players must perform their job at a high level for a play to work the way it is supposed to. I get your point but when you single out the QB then you are essentially stirring up a QB controversy, (whether intended or not) and that is not a topic that generally spurns a friendly conversation.

Good point. Message boards are like talking sports over a few cold ones at the bar. I think this team is on a great position right now, and a big part of that is the play of Lamb. No knock on him, just that his weaknesses have shown recently. Nothing wrong.with having weaknesses if you are aware of them and work to improve them.

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[Rick0714]

I think the best statement, that has been glossed over a bit, is Taylor is just a Sophmore. His physical tools are not going to change overnight, but his decision-making and any "indecisveness(?)" can and will change with time. AE made some bad decisions, but had the physical tools to make us forget them. We've had some all-american type players on D this year that have taken some horrible angles, not wrapped up, been out-of-position, got caught peeking in the backfield, etc etc ... but they are not the QB and everyone likes to be critical of the QB (and coaches). This is an FBS QB growing right in front of us. Let the guys that get paid to make the decisions make them. They know more and know better than we do, and in my eyes, we're doing just a little better than anyone expected. I think they got this.

[goapps93]

Everyone who sits in the stands to watch the game has to realize that the QB does not see the field like we do. He does not have our vantage point. It's easy for us to see open receivers, we don't have 300 lb defenders standing in front of us or chasing us down. And we also have to realize that we don't see the field like the QB does. I would much rather for the QB to take a 2-3 yard sack than to throw it to the other team. Taylor has made some mistakes and will continue to make some as he progresses. And I would bet good money that his mistakes bother him a lot more than they do any of us. We beat a good, better than we expected, team despite us playing as poorly as some of you think. What's really sad is that here we are talking about offensive woes when our offense had 432 total yards against what turned out to be a pretty good defense. We need to be breaking down our defensive deficiencies instead of debating whether it's time to send our sophomore QB out to pasture. I think we'll see any perceived defensive issues ironed out Thursday night. And remember, too, that, in reality, it took 2 gimmick plays to make the game closer than it should have been. We're gonna be just fine, just you wait and see.

[Saint3333]

I think there is some truth to his post. Lamb is a great QB, he has all the tools to lead this team to 11-1 this season, but I would agree he tends to get happy feet. He had the chance to step up into the pocket vs run outside of it which led to quite a few holding calls.

I think he'll follow up a below average showing (based on what we've seen from him) this Thursday. He's a good smart player that is continuing to improve.


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[APPdiesel]

Want to know how Taylor will respond? See Old Dominion.

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[AppState89]

Think our defense or lack of makes a QB look bad, if the QB makes some mistakes during the game. Yes, the defense had a bad night Saturday night. They are one of the best, but not every game will be lights out. Even Clemson gave up a crap load of points to NC State, and Clemson has one of the best defenses in the country. To put up 37pts (defense scored 7), that's pretty darn good. And I agree, a WIN is a WIN.