I'm sure that the Iggles won't be going for knees on the d-line...bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:14 amHopefully we can take care of South Alabama in the first half then rest some key guys and play the backups (without letting the game get close). If that goes our way we will be fine for Stink. Take care of that business and we have the extra time for the USC prep. The only issue we could have is if guys get dinged up against the Cocks. That could hurt a bit for the stretch run in the conference.
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That makes sense, and I agree with you. I guess we just disagree on what a "beatdown" is. I would consider 38-14 a pretty considerable whuppin'.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:06 pmGiven that we have a short turnaround this week and it is the middle of a three games in 13 days, I would expect to see some grind it out drives to keep the defense off the field. Assuming that we have a large lead after half, I could see a large dose of Huesman, Anderson, and Clark in the second half. That is of course assuming we can get a large lead. My point is that while I can see a 48-7 type score, I can also envision a scenario where it ends up a 38-14 type game. Score and margin of victory is far less of a concern to me than getting in and out with some guys getting reps so the starters can sit.
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99.9% of the time when someone says “Appy State” they aren’t trying to be belittling. Our fan base is comically sensitive.
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This. We even have alumni from a certain time period who use that moniker. Some of us need to thicken our skin. Mispronouncing Appalachian by coaches and media personnel, at this point however, is inexcusable.
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The official media guide and the weekly game notes issued by the university actually asks very nicely NOT to use "Appy" or "Appy State." So for an opposing coach to use it is just outright disrespectful. I personally see it as an intended slight and consequently don't like it but I don't get all bent out of shape about it. It's similar to the way some of our fans use "LaLA" or "Arky" State, they use it because they know it's belittling to the other fan bases and that's why they use it, it's meant as an insult.
Also, I agree that the mispronunciation of Appalachian is just a regional dialect thing and not intended as an insult but it's still fun to "correct" them .
Also, I agree that the mispronunciation of Appalachian is just a regional dialect thing and not intended as an insult but it's still fun to "correct" them .
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That's thin skinned, too.goapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 amThis. We even have alumni from a certain time period who use that moniker. Some of us need to thicken our skin. Mispronouncing Appalachian by coaches and media personnel, at this point however, is inexcusable.
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Rick83 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:59 amThe official media guide and the weekly game notes issued by the university actually asks very nicely NOT to use "Appy" or "Appy State." So for an opposing coach to use it is just outright disrespectful. I personally see it as an intended slight and consequently don't like it but I don't get all bent out of shape about it. It's similar to the way some of our fans use "LaLA" or "Arky" State, they use it because they know it's belittling to the other fan bases and that's why they use it, it's meant as an insult.
Also, I agree that the mispronunciation of Appalachian is just a regional dialect thing and not intended as an insult but it's still fun to "correct" them .
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goapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 amThis. We even have alumni from a certain time period who use that moniker. Some of us need to thicken our skin. Mispronouncing Appalachian by coaches and media personnel, at this point however, is inexcusable.
Read Rick83's post about the media guide.
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I read the post. I read most if not all before posting, unlike you in some cases. I'm very familiar with the media guide. I still think we need to get over the Appy aversion. Also, coaches are not media. Nor are fans. The media guide also says not to refer to us as ASU yet we have several chants that use it and it plays a prominent role in NC's Band of Distinction's pregame show.NewApp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:39 amgoapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 amThis. We even have alumni from a certain time period who use that moniker. Some of us need to thicken our skin. Mispronouncing Appalachian by coaches and media personnel, at this point however, is inexcusable.
Read Rick83's post about the media guide.
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Appy State is most commonly used by NC State, UNC and ECU fans used condescendingly towards App with a hint of "little brother" direction. Two instances of UNC columnists/bloggers using Appy State and Mounties while downplaying our success occurred just this season. Steve Campbell coached under Hudspeth at UL so his record there and at South Alabama against us is dismal. He knows exactly what he was doing and he did it with malintention, but just not smart of him IMO.goapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:53 amI read the post. I read most if not all before posting, unlike you in some cases. I'm very familiar with the media guide. I still think we need to get over the Appy aversion. Also, coaches are not media. Nor are fans. The media guide also says not to refer to us as ASU yet we have several chants that use it and it plays a prominent role in NC's Band of Distinction's pregame show.NewApp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:39 amgoapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 amThis. We even have alumni from a certain time period who use that moniker. Some of us need to thicken our skin. Mispronouncing Appalachian by coaches and media personnel, at this point however, is inexcusable.
Read Rick83's post about the media guide.
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It's not when the university takes the time to publish a media guide and game notes that clearly state how the name of the school should be pronounced. Pronouncing it any other way is just disrespectful.NewApp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:37 amThat's thin skinned, too.goapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 amThis. We even have alumni from a certain time period who use that moniker. Some of us need to thicken our skin. Mispronouncing Appalachian by coaches and media personnel, at this point however, is inexcusable.
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appst89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:41 pmIt's not when the university takes the time to publish a media guide and game notes that clearly state how the name of the school should be pronounced. Pronouncing it any other way is just disrespectful.NewApp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:37 amThat's thin skinned, too.goapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 amThis. We even have alumni from a certain time period who use that moniker. Some of us need to thicken our skin. Mispronouncing Appalachian by coaches and media personnel, at this point however, is inexcusable.
Then so is Appy State if we rely on the media guide.
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The media guide is actually intended for...the MEDIA! I seriously doubt that opposing coaches sit there and read the media guides for all their opponents. I don't know if he intended anything or not but I don't think that most do. I did notice that Coach Drink used "ULL" a couple of times last week in his press conferences. That is as big a hot button for them as our name issues are for us (either pronunciation or "Appy").
I do understand that ULL reflects the initials of the actual university name, but they do actively market themselves as "Louisiana." The use of the Lafayette Leopard logo during our game with them is a really good example of why they don't like including that in their name.
I do understand that ULL reflects the initials of the actual university name, but they do actively market themselves as "Louisiana." The use of the Lafayette Leopard logo during our game with them is a really good example of why they don't like including that in their name.
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I never argued that it wasn't.NewApp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:55 pmappst89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:41 pmIt's not when the university takes the time to publish a media guide and game notes that clearly state how the name of the school should be pronounced. Pronouncing it any other way is just disrespectful.NewApp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:37 amThat's thin skinned, too.
Then so is Appy State if we rely on the media guide.
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The point about the media guide and game notes is that you can consider it the "official" university position that we are asking to not be called Appy in any way. ULL is not a derogatory reference, it's just an out-dated reference. However, LaLa is derogatory, and is meant that way when used.
The coach has a right to call us whatever he wishes but I also have the right to believe he's being disrespectful and behaving in a low-class manner and "one is how one behaves."
The coach has a right to call us whatever he wishes but I also have the right to believe he's being disrespectful and behaving in a low-class manner and "one is how one behaves."
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I have an opinion. I think it’s disrespectful to call us Appy or mispronounce Appalachian. So get over me not getting over it.
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That’s fair and I was just throwing out a number. There are some that would be upset over giving up 14 to USA after what the D did to the Louisiana schools. In my opinion, the most complete game we played last year was the Coastal Carolina game. Not a lot of points but we dominated all phases of the game.MrCraig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:59 amThat makes sense, and I agree with you. I guess we just disagree on what a "beatdown" is. I would consider 38-14 a pretty considerable whuppin'.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:06 pmGiven that we have a short turnaround this week and it is the middle of a three games in 13 days, I would expect to see some grind it out drives to keep the defense off the field. Assuming that we have a large lead after half, I could see a large dose of Huesman, Anderson, and Clark in the second half. That is of course assuming we can get a large lead. My point is that while I can see a 48-7 type score, I can also envision a scenario where it ends up a 38-14 type game. Score and margin of victory is far less of a concern to me than getting in and out with some guys getting reps so the starters can sit.
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Wow! He really knows how to hurt us. That's likely to intimidate us to the point we won't even show up. It's nice to play with a chip on our shoulder but this is a pretty thin-skinned reaction from some of our fans. The hypocrisy here is beyond the pale. Many of these same fans refer to many of our SBC foes with informal monikers as a means of insulting or belittling them.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:33 pmAppy State is most commonly used by NC State, UNC and ECU fans used condescendingly towards App with a hint of "little brother" direction. Two instances of UNC columnists/bloggers using Appy State and Mounties while downplaying our success occurred just this season. Steve Campbell coached under Hudspeth at UL so his record there and at South Alabama against us is dismal. He knows exactly what he was doing and he did it with malintention, but just not smart of him IMO.goapps93 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:53 amI read the post. I read most if not all before posting, unlike you in some cases. I'm very familiar with the media guide. I still think we need to get over the Appy aversion. Also, coaches are not media. Nor are fans. The media guide also says not to refer to us as ASU yet we have several chants that use it and it plays a prominent role in NC's Band of Distinction's pregame show.NewApp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:39 am
Read Rick83's post about the media guide.