Drink interviews w/ Ark

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:53 pm

ericsaid wrote:
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Saw this on Arkansas thread, and also heard from a reliable source that Drink had a face to face interview with Ark. AD. Just posting the info and screen shot. This is a plane track from Ark. to North Wilkesboro (Drink) to Boca (Kiffin) and Idaho (Leech). Just thought I would share.
I don't care if he goes or not. I like Drink but if they offer congrats and see you. I don't mind coaches coming and leaving after a few years but our next HC could see the same result next year and then bolt if we hire another like Drink. I say hire Shawn Clark immediately. He will stay for a while and I know Shawn can run the show.
Why not explore bringing Bryan Brown back, if that's the case.
Brown would be out the door very quickly as well. I would go with Clark or Ivey. They are older than Brown and both love App. If we don't want to lose coaches every year those are the two best chances. They would stay for a long time.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:56 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:53 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:48 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:45 pm
beachneer40 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:56 pm
Saw this on Arkansas thread, and also heard from a reliable source that Drink had a face to face interview with Ark. AD. Just posting the info and screen shot. This is a plane track from Ark. to North Wilkesboro (Drink) to Boca (Kiffin) and Idaho (Leech). Just thought I would share.
I don't care if he goes or not. I like Drink but if they offer congrats and see you. I don't mind coaches coming and leaving after a few years but our next HC could see the same result next year and then bolt if we hire another like Drink. I say hire Shawn Clark immediately. He will stay for a while and I know Shawn can run the show.
Why not explore bringing Bryan Brown back, if that's the case.
Brown would be out the door very quickly as well. I would go with Clark or Ivey. They are older than Brown and both love App. If we don't want to lose coaches every year those are the two best chances. They would stay for a long time.
I can’t say that I hate the Clark idea, Think the boat may have sailed on Ivey though.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:00 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:56 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:53 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:48 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:45 pm
beachneer40 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:56 pm
Saw this on Arkansas thread, and also heard from a reliable source that Drink had a face to face interview with Ark. AD. Just posting the info and screen shot. This is a plane track from Ark. to North Wilkesboro (Drink) to Boca (Kiffin) and Idaho (Leech). Just thought I would share.
I don't care if he goes or not. I like Drink but if they offer congrats and see you. I don't mind coaches coming and leaving after a few years but our next HC could see the same result next year and then bolt if we hire another like Drink. I say hire Shawn Clark immediately. He will stay for a while and I know Shawn can run the show.
Why not explore bringing Bryan Brown back, if that's the case.
Brown would be out the door very quickly as well. I would go with Clark or Ivey. They are older than Brown and both love App. If we don't want to lose coaches every year those are the two best chances. They would stay for a long time.
I can’t say that I hate the Clark idea, Think the boat may have sailed on Ivey though.
It may have. Rumors are that that Ivey was mad when he left. I really think it would be Clark. Regardless, we don't need to waste money on these firms. Gillin or even our top boosters could come up with a good list for free. Clark would take the job and stay a while.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by Yosefus » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:04 pm

Could have been a Tyson jet dropping off or picking up Tyson dignitaries. They have a big complex with 3 plants in Wilkesboro and quarterly meetings in Springdale this week.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:05 pm

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I’m more concerned about the time away from prepping for this week.
Hopefully we all should be concerned about that, players, potential recruits, fans, and administration. Perhaps Coach Drinkwitzis just jockeying for more salary and benefits from us. Coach Satterfield was thought to do that on occasion.
I've done that before as well. Worked well.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:07 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:00 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:56 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:53 pm
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:48 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
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I don't care if he goes or not. I like Drink but if they offer congrats and see you. I don't mind coaches coming and leaving after a few years but our next HC could see the same result next year and then bolt if we hire another like Drink. I say hire Shawn Clark immediately. He will stay for a while and I know Shawn can run the show.
Why not explore bringing Bryan Brown back, if that's the case.
Brown would be out the door very quickly as well. I would go with Clark or Ivey. They are older than Brown and both love App. If we don't want to lose coaches every year those are the two best chances. They would stay for a long time.
I can’t say that I hate the Clark idea, Think the boat may have sailed on Ivey though.
It may have. Rumors are that that Ivey was mad when he left. I really think it would be Clark. Regardless, we don't need to waste money on these firms. Gillin or even our top boosters could come up with a good list for free. Clark would take the job and stay a while.
At least until somebody came and offered him $3MM+. This is the nature of the beast. We want to win, so people will want our coaches. If anything, we should be donating to up Gillen's salary to keep him.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:10 pm

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The amount had to be negotiated, approved by the BOT and written into the terms of the App contract before Drink was hired.
So the buy out can't be adjusted with an extension? And what is the baseline for the buy out clause in the contract? Where does it come from? I assume it can't be some arbitrary number but if you assigned a number to it commiserate with the expected future value of the coach, you would get significantly more money in return if they leave.

When Arkansas State had a revolving door of coaches they were able to pay their next hire with the buy out from the previous one, continuously upping their salary. Louisiana pays Napier close to $1 mm. App will need to get in that range to stave off some of the less attractive P5 positions that come calling.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by beachneer40 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:17 pm

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Could have been a Tyson jet dropping off or picking up Tyson dignitaries. They have a big complex with 3 plants in Wilkesboro and quarterly meetings in Springdale this week.
I thought that too, but then Idaho airport which is 25 minutes from Leach and Boca which is is Kiff plus Nola, which rumors are Dave Aranda got a look too and it starts to be too much coincidence.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:26 pm

Apparently Hog fans believe that Kiffin is the savior they need and he will help them beat Alabama. And this will all happen without cheating or breaking any rules on the recruiting trail. Has Arkansas really ever had any sustained success? I am not talking like one or two good years in a row but sustained with 9 win seasons?

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by Appalachman » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:31 pm

Napier is also on a lot of list and likely taking some calls and meetings. He is probably more likely to move this year than drink, but either it both could move up to nice paydays. Both and both teams have some of this talk and distractions this week.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:34 pm

Apparently Hog fans believe that Kiffin is the savior they need and he will help them beat Alabama. And this will all happen without cheating or breaking any rules on the recruiting trail. Has Arkansas really ever had any sustained success? I am not talking like one or two good years in a row but sustained with 9 win seasons?

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:40 pm

What makes you so sure Clark would stay awhile? I would think that he like many others would seek advancement and more pay.
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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by HkyMtneer » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:40 pm

Yosefus wrote:
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Could have been a Tyson jet dropping off or picking up Tyson dignitaries. They have a big complex with 3 plants in Wilkesboro and quarterly meetings in Springdale this week.
This particular jet is registered to a petroleum company based in Tulsa, OK, by way of Rogers, AR...so my guess is that if you find a big Razorbacks backer with ties to this company you'll find the connection. Wouldn't shock me if it's Jerry Jones or affiliates. Also, this plane has since gone "radio-silent" in regards to public tracking.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by Yosef10 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:41 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:48 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:45 pm
beachneer40 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:56 pm
Saw this on Arkansas thread, and also heard from a reliable source that Drink had a face to face interview with Ark. AD. Just posting the info and screen shot. This is a plane track from Ark. to North Wilkesboro (Drink) to Boca (Kiffin) and Idaho (Leech). Just thought I would share.
I don't care if he goes or not. I like Drink but if they offer congrats and see you. I don't mind coaches coming and leaving after a few years but our next HC could see the same result next year and then bolt if we hire another like Drink. I say hire Shawn Clark immediately. He will stay for a while and I know Shawn can run the show.
Why not explore bringing Bryan Brown back, if that's the case.
I forget the context it was in, may have been BB turning down an interview from DG, but i remember hearing BB wasn’t all that interested in being a head coach.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by Yosef10 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:43 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:00 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:56 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:53 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:48 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:45 pm


I don't care if he goes or not. I like Drink but if they offer congrats and see you. I don't mind coaches coming and leaving after a few years but our next HC could see the same result next year and then bolt if we hire another like Drink. I say hire Shawn Clark immediately. He will stay for a while and I know Shawn can run the show.
Why not explore bringing Bryan Brown back, if that's the case.
Brown would be out the door very quickly as well. I would go with Clark or Ivey. They are older than Brown and both love App. If we don't want to lose coaches every year those are the two best chances. They would stay for a long time.
I can’t say that I hate the Clark idea, Think the boat may have sailed on Ivey though.
It may have. Rumors are that that Ivey was mad when he left. I really think it would be Clark. Regardless, we don't need to waste money on these firms. Gillin or even our top boosters could come up with a good list for free. Clark would take the job and stay a while.
Firms do a lot more than you think and at a school with our resources, unless there is a clear cut choice in the ADs mind, then it’s actually best to go search firm route.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by fjblair » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:46 pm

This kind of circus has to have negative consequences with our recruiting. We can expect this every couple of years as long as we are successful. I don't know how any mid major can sustain success with the staff turning over every other year.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:52 pm

So the Arkansas AD flew to Boone (Drinkwitz) then Boca (Kiffin) then New Orleans (Fritz?) then to Terrell TX (outside Dallas, maybe the SMU guy?) and last to Idaho (Leach). My money is on Kiffin, or maybe he keeps striking out.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:55 pm

AppfaninCAALand wrote:
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So the Arkansas AD flew to Boone (Drinkwitz) then Boca (Kiffin) then New Orleans (Fritz?) then to Terrell TX (outside Dallas, maybe the SMU guy?) and last to Idaho (Leach). My money is on Kiffin, or maybe he keeps striking out.
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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:56 pm

fjblair wrote:
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This kind of circus has to have negative consequences with our recruiting. We can expect this every couple of years as long as we are successful. I don't know how any mid major can sustain success with the staff turning over every other year.
Think recruits may be more interested in the foundation of success and excellence at App. Coaching staff matters but it isn't the only factor.

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Re: Drink interviews w/ Ark

Unread post by The Rock » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:56 pm

Kiffin is likely the top choice of a couple of the open positions. I'm glad, and hope that he is Arkansas' first choice, but that don't mean he will take that particular job. Same way Brohm didn't take the Louisville job and opened the door for Satt. Hopefully this is just a formality and keeping his name out there gesture and will come back for at least another year or two.

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