Peterson to Illinois?

[Yosef10]

Tony please put these folks on the payroll, they’re earning every penny!

[App91]

A little of both. Eli didn’t run his offense either. He ran the offense that we had with Satt with a few wrinkles of his own. Only difference, is that he had healthy, experienced players all season.

Saying something repeatedly doesn’t make it truth.

Guys is a one string banjo

[appst89]

A little of both. Eli didn’t run his offense either. He ran the offense that we had with Satt with a few wrinkles of his own. Only difference, is that he had healthy, experienced players all season.

And the ability to adjust.

Hard to adjust when you are using 2nd and third string guys. Case in point. In the bowl game, we were doing a pretty good job of stuffing the NT rushing attack. Once Earle, (our 2nd string NT) left the game with an injury, things changed. NT ran on our 3rd and 4th string guys pretty handily. Mind you, they did a pretty decent job, but they showed that they weren’t quite to the same talent level of Earle. Not yet anyway. My point is this, no one cared since the offense was humming and we won handily. But I would say that some of you need to apply that same understanding of talent level disparity to the guys on offense. Wells, Horn, and Davis will be good. But they aren’t Hennigan, Virgil, and Sutton. Nor should they be expected to.

We're just going to have to disagree. We weren't the only team in the country affected by COVID or injuries. I know I'm not allowed to have that opinion, but I'm going to anyway.

[AppSt94]

A little of both. Eli didn’t run his offense either. He ran the offense that we had with Satt with a few wrinkles of his own. Only difference, is that he had healthy, experienced players all season.

Saying something repeatedly doesn’t make it truth.

Guys is a one string banjo

Believe what you want to believe. Happy New Year.

[Appstrong]

I’d take a look at the Valdosta St head coach, Gary Goff. He checks a lot of boxes. Of course what looks good on paper may not always translate, but he seems worth a look.

[JMappfan5]

A little of both. Eli didn’t run his offense either. He ran the offense that we had with Satt with a few wrinkles of his own. Only difference, is that he had healthy, experienced players all season.

Saying something repeatedly doesn’t make it truth.

Practice what you preach.

[NashvilleNeer]

He's a very average to below average coordinator, so this isn't a bad thing. Wish him well, but just didn't see why a P5 school would want him. We'll be OK, but I'd like a creative hire and would prefer someone who doesn't have ties to App. Hiring in the family is a lazy way to do things.

[AppSt94]

He's a very average to below average coordinator, so this isn't a bad thing. Wish him well, but just didn't see why a P5 school would want him. We'll be OK, but I'd like a creative hire and would prefer someone who doesn't have ties to App. Hiring in the family is a lazy way to do things.

Anyone we hire will have to adapt to what we do. Not the other way around.

[MtnMan14]

He's a very average to below average coordinator, so this isn't a bad thing. Wish him well, but just didn't see why a P5 school would want him. We'll be OK, but I'd like a creative hire and would prefer someone who doesn't have ties to App. Hiring in the family is a lazy way to do things.

Anyone we hire will have to adapt to what we do. Not the other way around.

I don’t think we should bring in a coordinator with the expectation that he should do something the way we’ve always done any more than I think we should have a coordinator that forces our players into their scheme. It needs to be organic. The OC needs to have freedom to scheme to the strengths of our players. The game evolves and there could be a better way to work with the personnel we have than what we’ve done to this point. We need to be open minded to a new look on offense as much as the OC needs to be open minded to adapting to the personnel we have. I don’t care what we look like on offense as long as it’s successful. When we do something repeatedly and it isn’t successful a la all of 2020, that’s when we have a problem. But we have to let the OC do their job and not give them strict parameters as to what our offense needs to look like. Then we sound like the boosters down in Auburn trying to hire a new head coach but telling him certain guys he’s gotta keep on staff...

[Black Saturday]

https://fightingillini.com/news/2020/12 ... nator.aspx

Does he need help packing?

[bigdaddyg]

I’ve watched a boatload of football in my lifetime. I’ve heard the terms schemes, styles, geniuses and gurus. I’ve seen teams run into the ground by genius and guru coaches. I’ve seen offenses and defenses do nothing coached by these same coaches. Why can’t our offense run the ball, throw short passes in space and every now and then try a deep pass? Can’t we mix things up in games, not be predictable and play to our strengths? Can’t we get a coordinator who doesn’t overthink stuff? Anyway that’s my take from watching lots of football.

[Black Saturday]

Sounds like Peterson got a promotion. Going to a P-5.

I am Happy Appy for him.

[MtnMan14]

https://fightingillini.com/news/2020/12 ... nator.aspx

Does he need help packing?

Man, after actually taking the time to read that, I need whoever wrote that to write my resume. If you’ve actually seen his offense though then that whole thing reads like the script of a comedy.

[Champ24]

We should be looking at Tom Knotts. At Dutch Fork

[Appstrong]

We should be looking at Tom Knotts. At Dutch Fork

Unless something has changed, he does not have an interest in the college game.

https://www.wltx.com/article/sports/hig ... 886782db1c

[App_in_Maiden]

Good riddance.

[MtnMan14]

We should be looking at Tom Knotts. At Dutch Fork

Unless something has changed, he does not have an interest in the college game.

https://www.wltx.com/article/sports/hig ... 886782db1c

I grew up about 2 mins from Independence high school in Charlotte and attended high school there during the Knotts era. Knotts is an insanely talented high school coach, but I think the reason he really wasn’t a fan of coaching at Duke was because he wasn’t the head guy. He left independence for Dutch fork because he’s also the AD down there and controls everything. Obviously he likes to be in control. College coaching can be too political. Plus he’s gotta be in his mid 60s now and has a son in school still. Don’t see him moving.

[hapapp]

I think its important to put some of this in perspective. Obviously, record-wise we didn't match our 13 wins and had 2 more losses. Is that the fault of the OC? Perhaps. We did average 5 points less a game this year. On the other hand we actually had better offensive stats in terms of total offense, we had rushed for 34 more yards a game, threw for 14 fewer yards.

In our two conference losses, we did underperform our seasonal averages but then again our opponents did as well. In the Coastal game, our offense exceeded what Coastal was giving up on the year in terms of points and yards. In the UL game, our total offense was below their average. Keep in mind, the conditions in which that game was played. We did actually rush for more yards than they allowed. Our passing numbers were well under their average. We also committed six turnovers in those two games. Is that play calling or execution?

I think the most glaring deficiency in our 2020 offense, was, as has been pointed out, our underperforming in the red zone. In 2019 we were successful 91% of the time v. 2020 75%. We scored TDs 78% of the time last year while only doing 58% of the time this year. One area where we were significantly more successful was on 3rd conversion. This year we succeeded 51%, compared to 44% last year.

This is not to defend Tony Peterson. Clearly, there were some issues especially in the red zone. On the other hand, in some areas were actually more productive. I find a little hard to suggest that we failed this year offensively. Where we did have some issues, was it all play calling, or how much was execution? And, I do understand that sometimes poor execution can come from bad play calls.

I just think its too simple to say we were 9-3 this year and not 11-1 because of Peterson. Perhaps, he was the wrong choice. Hopefully, if that were the case, we'll find a better match this time.

[appgrad]

Time to bring Trey back. https://nguathletics.com/sports/footbal ... y-elder/61.
And Taylor too. https://gwusports.com/staff-directory/taylor-lamb/266

No.

We need to think bigger than handing jobs to former QBs either with no track record, or a non-descript one just because they played here.

Give me a proven innovator and talent developer. We have too much talent here to risk it on a Prodigal Son.

You need to have money to get that.

I agree - but hiring unproven, or largely unremarkable (as a coach), alumni isn't the solution to our problems either.

[appgrad]

Time to bring Trey back. https://nguathletics.com/sports/footbal ... y-elder/61.
And Taylor too. https://gwusports.com/staff-directory/taylor-lamb/266

No.

We need to think bigger than handing jobs to former QBs either with no track record, or a non-descript one just because they played here.

Give me a proven innovator and talent developer. We have too much talent here to risk it on a Prodigal Son.

Not disagreeing with you, but it’s going to be hard to find a proven innovator and talent developer for what we were paying Petersen at $200,000. I would prefer an up and coming position coach ready to move into the position versus a resurrection project that may jump ship at the next P5 offer (ie Roof, Petersen).

Perfectly fine with promoting, or hiring away, a position coach looking to take the next step. I also think you can find coordinators at the FCS, D2, even NAIA and D3 level who are winning without the benefit of having better talent. Need to do some digging, but they're out there.