Recent realignment rumors/discussion

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:21 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:15 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:09 pm
Yosef10 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:50 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:42 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:27 pm
At some point they need to have football and basketball conferences and then regionalize the Olympic sports conferences. Athletic revenues are about 80% football and 20% basketball, it doesn’t make a ton of sense to continue to allow non-revenue generating sports to handcuff these athletic departments.
You need to investigate that a little better.
What do you mean? It’s been rumored for years that at some point college football could separate entirely from the NCAA umbrella, the playoff is already not controlled by the NCAA for example. That’s about all you need to happen to allow football conferences to be completely separate from the Olympic sport conferences.
I am talking about your revenue stream.
And right on cue, here’s a thread from a pretty plugged in ACC media member:

Again, not sure what point you’re trying to make by painting a pretty logical idea as outlandish.
Not trying to make any point about that idea. Again I am talking about your revenue stream.

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by PhillyApp1 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:22 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:11 pm
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Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:28 pm
PhillyApp1.... the original PhillyApp... thinks Temple is about to be a Penn State minor league ... free agency is gonna kill the Owls, already started
But would you like to have App State visit the Philly area every other year for a football game and every year for basketball and other sports?

Maybe someone could even send you another SEPTA card for some free transit to a game? 8-)
Well, I would love App to kick some Owl on the field at The Linc..... I am not taking Septa to Temple for a bball game but I do know where to park 😉

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:45 pm

PhillyApp1 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:22 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:11 pm
PhillyApp1 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:28 pm
PhillyApp1.... the original PhillyApp... thinks Temple is about to be a Penn State minor league ... free agency is gonna kill the Owls, already started
But would you like to have App State visit the Philly area every other year for a football game and every year for basketball and other sports?

Maybe someone could even send you another SEPTA card for some free transit to a game? 8-)
Well, I would love App to kick some Owl on the field at The Linc..... I am not taking Septa to Temple for a bball game but I do know where to park 😉
Looks like there is a lot of action at the Temple Station though it is all regional rail it seems on the SEPTA webpage for this station. I don't claim to know where Temple plays their sports beyond football which was a nice subway ride to the neighboring home of the Phillies. I assume I was looking at the Linc walking to/from the SEPTA subway to the baseball stadium.
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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:51 pm

You can stop in at Chickie and Pete’s for some Crab Fries and take the shuttle from the restaurant to the stadium.

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:48 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:50 pm
bcoach wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:42 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:27 pm
At some point they need to have football and basketball conferences and then regionalize the Olympic sports conferences. Athletic revenues are about 80% football and 20% basketball, it doesn’t make a ton of sense to continue to allow non-revenue generating sports to handcuff these athletic departments.
You need to investigate that a little better.
What do you mean? It’s been rumored for years that at some point college football could separate entirely from the NCAA umbrella, the playoff is already not controlled by the NCAA for example. That’s about all you need to happen to allow football conferences to be completely separate from the Olympic sport conferences.
I don't think it would or could ever happen due to conference control of TV rights, but I have long felt that each NCAA sport should be governed separately (say by each sport's national governing body such as the US Soccer Federation or USA Field Hockey, for example) with single-sport conferences across the board.

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by asu66 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:32 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:27 pm
At some point they need to have football and basketball conferences and then regionalize the Olympic sports conferences. Athletic revenues are about 80% football and 20% basketball, it doesn’t make a ton of sense to continue to allow non-revenue generating sports to handcuff these athletic departments.
Strongly disagree. Collegiate athletic programs exist to provide opportunities for college students to experience being a part of a cohesive athletic team; provide opportunities for them to develop strong leadership skills, provide opportunities for them to further develop their minds and bodies, teach them to handle strong competition and teach them to handle winning and losing with class.

Certainly, there are limits to what sports programs an institution can field, but limiting their program offerings to just one or two team sports would make for some dull places and for some hot Title IX investigations. There's so much more, but I'll impose a word count on myself.
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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by Yosefus » Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:27 pm

My thoughts, P5 will be a P4 superconference once its all said and done with a P4 expanded playoff. G5 will consolidate into larger conferences as well with a G5 or 4 playoff. No way Power conferences share the money with group of 5. I don't see conferences in either group resembling conferences of today. So much can may or will change over next couple years its going to be a interesting journey. I do believe we will wind up in a top tier G5 conference in the end with others. Unfortunately I believe it will look much like the FCS, 1AA days of old. But if I remember right part of the logic for moving up was based on the idea the P5 would eventually part ways with the rest of us. Sorry for the ramble.

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by spacemonkey » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:38 pm

The Athletic reporting tonight that the ACC, Big 10, Pac 12 form alliance to shape college football

https://theathletic.com/news/big-ten-pa ... v1mfs4guai


Big Ten, Pac-12, ACC in discussions about forming alliance

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by 1ASU78 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:31 pm

Well at least this guy is honest.

I’ve been in frequent and regular contact with all of the other A5 commissioners the last few weeks about the complex issues that are facing the industry,” Kliavkoff said, adding that there’s “nothing to report on this specific matter at this time.”

“The industry “ not college athletes.

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:34 pm

As long as we keep a spot for the top g5 in the CFP and the bowl games that ESPN matches up.....I will be happy. Still would like the Sunbelt pick up Marshall, ECU and Charlotte or make the move to which ever conference include Marshall ECU and Charlotte and hopefully not lose Georgia Southern and Coastal in the process.

I also would like to see an NIT type football 12 team tournament that includes all G5 champions minus the CFP selection.

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by t4pizza » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:24 pm

The last thing I want to see is a separate tournament without the CFP selections, that would simply be one step closer to another break in divisions.

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Re: Recent realignment rumors/discussion

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:19 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:24 pm
The last thing I want to see is a separate tournament without the CFP selections, that would simply be one step closer to another break in divisions.
I want it to include p5s.

Think New York Life invitational Tournament.
ESPN/New York Life/Pepsi sponsor it. Money split by 12 teams or conferences.

Think ACC number 4 team. SEC number 6 and 7(Virginia, Virginia tech, NCState, Duke, wake forest, Arkansas, Miss. st., South Carolina, Memphis, UcF .). All the conferences that signed up for ESPN bowl coalition. If a conference sends a team they get paid. Instead of meaningless bowl games.

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