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With 4 back, and "pinky toe", Castle, and ND we can rest Cam and have him 100 % against the Chickens.
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Chase is the best passing quarterback app has ever seen.
His mechanics are damn near perfect, and his deep ball is beautiful.
Our passing game is light years beyond where it has been in recent times.
His mechanics are damn near perfect, and his deep ball is beautiful.
Our passing game is light years beyond where it has been in recent times.
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“4” will be assuredly on a rep count. Not carries, but reps. Noel’s injury needs to be treated as a serious issue. An injury to the “pinky toe” affects balance and agility. Two things that he relies significantly on. Smith looked better this week and Castle is just a bulldozer.
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I like Chase , he isn't Armanti but he's a good college QB. Upgrade from the past few years? Appears to be.Castle will get better at finding gaps and getting yardage but depth at RB is a concern.We have got to have 3 or 4 that can make plays.If not they wear down and get dinged.I watched GSU go toe to toe with Auburn and beat them upfront.This game concerned me , yes we hit a lull ,but we blew them out , on the road.The next couple of games will be tests.If we get healthy I like our chances.
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Ive broken pinky toes. For three days you walk carefully. I broke my left one while distance running. I bound the pinky toe to the fourth toe and found I could still train for distance races. Plus it was easier and relatively painless to run over walking for about a week.
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I am not sure distance running is comparable to football running. Not diminishing the ability to long distance run. The ability of changing direction on a dime, which is what Noel does best, will be hindered by a pinky toe injury. IMO, we need 6 for the next two games at full strength or close to it.
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Some dumb ass sitting behind me when Chase got hurt shouted, "now lets see a real quarterback" presumably referring to Heusmann. Don't get me wrong, I love Jacob, but this was one of the most boneheaded things I've ever heard an App fan blurt out.
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You really can’t fix stupid.sixtoes9134 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:49 pmSome dumb ass sitting behind me when Chase got hurt shouted, "now lets see a real quarterback" presumably referring to Heusmann. Don't get me wrong, I love Jacob, but this was one of the most boneheaded things I've ever heard an App fan blurt out.
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Considering the situation and how crucial the next 2 games are putting your QB in a situation like that is a bonehead call...that said I hope we do see that play again this year. I've always loved how it has worked in the past.
Ponce is growing as a play caller and this is something that I hope he learns from. CB is the best QB we've had since Armanti and this team has one goal, win the conference and CB is the centerpiece to making that happen. Don't put him in unnecessary risk.
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Funny thing is if that play would have worked then some of you that are criticizing it would be all aglow at how creative and imaginative it was. It really wasn’t anymore risky than if he were exposed on a roll out or the shot he took in the first half from the free rusher. He’s not a China Doll.
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Well wasn't really disclosed but Chase was playing on a bum ankle and game plan was not to run him at all. Glad we have a few extra days off because it will be needed for some guys to heal.Tbatchelor1977 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:04 pmWe score 40+ on the road against a decent 1-3 team. Two losses to P5 teams that are decent P5 teams. An Army team that is 4-1. Also, wasn't the QB (supposedly better QB) out past couple of weeks. He was back today. We played without one of our better receivers (and one of the best returners in the game).
We played without our No. 1 RB. Our potential No. 2 (or tie with Noel) has been out with leg injury all season. One of our better RBs transferred to La. Tech. We have probably missed on some potential RB recruits based upon what our depth chart may have been with 4 and 8 projected to be in backfield. With an injury to 6, we really only have 20 that is decent...and he may not be most durable given size. You can see dropoff if 44 has to step in as No. 2......and we still scored 40+ on the road.
From defensive perspective, we did not give up TD until late in game when players in game that are deep in depth chart.
IMO, now that we made it to 4-1, our season starts this week. Personally, I would like to see balance on offense with a slightly heavy dose of 6 if healthy. I believe that Ponce needs to pull out even more plays from playbook. Although Brice probably will not run, did not see much read option look today if I recall correctly.
On defense, my concern is secondary. Marshall appear to have quite a few open WRs In some cases Wells was off target and other cases, he missed the reads. Not sure LaLa QB misses them...and 10 from chickens will definitely not miss them. For like the 5 game in a row, 6 plays 10+ yards off the line of scrimmage. I understand not wanting to get best deep...but a first down away from coverage. There were no worries today as there QBs were not good passing QBs.
In terms of saying we are loaded with returnees....many of the teams (especially G5) are loaded with super seniors...so the opponents have good players too...
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There is no doubt that Chase is a better passer than ZT or Taylor. However, ZT's legs certainly kept the defense honest and probably the threat of him running allowed for a different playbook and he had the ability to break off long runs. So, while not knocking Chase, who i am pleased with, I don't know if we have an upgrade or just another solid QB.Stonewall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:18 pmI like Chase , he isn't Armanti but he's a good college QB. Upgrade from the past few years? Appears to be.Castle will get better at finding gaps and getting yardage but depth at RB is a concern.We have got to have 3 or 4 that can make plays.If not they wear down and get dinged.I watched GSU go toe to toe with Auburn and beat them upfront.This game concerned me , yes we hit a lull ,but we blew them out , on the road.The next couple of games will be tests.If we get healthy I like our chances.
Chase definitely throws a great deep ball.
Also, don't forget Spurlin at RB.

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I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, thus the purpose of this board. Also it probably wouldn't be as interesting of a discussion if everybody all agreed to the exact same opinions.
That being said, from my observations, Chase is the best passing QB I have ever seen at App in 40 yrs. It is not even close. In every aspect of his passing game he is superior to anybody before him, overall accuracy, timing, quick release, velocity on throws, even his decision making on which receiver to target on a given play. That all being said, I don't expect any QB at any level to never make a mistake. In passing game a QB/receiver have to push the limits and sometimes it works with good players on our side but sometimes a defender just makes a great play. In other words, against better opponents you don't always get uncontested passing situations. That is part of our offense's decision making process, do you/can you make a big play in tight coverage. Chase can flat out make throws we have not seen any previous App QB could make. That is difference in good vs great teams/players. In the decision making category, Chase is still improving his decision making game over game.
I remember hearing Brady saying, when he watches game film he always sees the play in terms of what "He can do", not what some other type skilled QB could run the play. That is a great point I think of when comparing Chase to Zac or Armanti. Each had different skills to execute a play, Chase seems to be continually improving on his decision making based on his capabilities.
That being said, from my observations, Chase is the best passing QB I have ever seen at App in 40 yrs. It is not even close. In every aspect of his passing game he is superior to anybody before him, overall accuracy, timing, quick release, velocity on throws, even his decision making on which receiver to target on a given play. That all being said, I don't expect any QB at any level to never make a mistake. In passing game a QB/receiver have to push the limits and sometimes it works with good players on our side but sometimes a defender just makes a great play. In other words, against better opponents you don't always get uncontested passing situations. That is part of our offense's decision making process, do you/can you make a big play in tight coverage. Chase can flat out make throws we have not seen any previous App QB could make. That is difference in good vs great teams/players. In the decision making category, Chase is still improving his decision making game over game.
I remember hearing Brady saying, when he watches game film he always sees the play in terms of what "He can do", not what some other type skilled QB could run the play. That is a great point I think of when comparing Chase to Zac or Armanti. Each had different skills to execute a play, Chase seems to be continually improving on his decision making based on his capabilities.
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No doubt that Zac was a better running QB than either Taylor or Chase, but Chase has picked up a few first downs with his legs over the last few games. He doesn't have to break off 50 yard runs to keep the D honest. I think he is accomplishing everything we need him to do.
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This is exactly how I feel. Each QB has their strengths but we have never had a passer anywhere near as good a Chase. With the receivers we have, Chase's increasing comfort within our system and our Defense that can pick him up if he does make a mistake, we have a chance to have a very special season.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:43 amI know everyone is entitled to their opinion, thus the purpose of this board. Also it probably wouldn't be as interesting of a discussion if everybody all agreed to the exact same opinions.
That being said, from my observations, Chase is the best passing QB I have ever seen at App in 40 yrs. It is not even close. In every aspect of his passing game he is superior to anybody before him, overall accuracy, timing, quick release, velocity on throws, even his decision making on which receiver to target on a given play. That all being said, I don't expect any QB at any level to never make a mistake. In passing game a QB/receiver have to push the limits and sometimes it works with good players on our side but sometimes a defender just makes a great play. In other words, against better opponents you don't always get uncontested passing situations. That is part of our offense's decision making process, do you/can you make a big play in tight coverage. Chase can flat out make throws we have not seen any previous App QB could make. That is difference in good vs great teams/players. In the decision making category, Chase is still improving his decision making game over game.
I remember hearing Brady saying, when he watches game film he always sees the play in terms of what "He can do", not what some other type skilled QB could run the play. That is a great point I think of when comparing Chase to Zac or Armanti. Each had different skills to execute a play, Chase seems to be continually improving on his decision making based on his capabilities.
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The result definitely is the reason for most of the uproar. I thought the play with a guy like Zac was smart because he could fly but Brice is not that fast so I wonder what we were trying to set up with it. I think a few on 247 mentioned just the fact it was Brice and his lack of big time speed. I thought that play would be better if we put Wells or Virgil in Brice's spot and put Brice in the slot and maybe had Malik or Brice throw that ball to someone with their type speed if we were going to do that. That can be a big play if you have right personnel and executed correctly but definitely has to be set up by some prior plays.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:14 pmFunny thing is if that play would have worked then some of you that are criticizing it would be all aglow at how creative and imaginative it was. It really wasn’t anymore risky than if he were exposed on a roll out or the shot he took in the first half from the free rusher. He’s not a China Doll.
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Agree that Brice is doing everything we need him to and has been a pleasant surprise. He is getting better and hopefully with more players back from injury we can hit on all cylinders at the right time with ULL and CCU coming up. Right now there is no question that McCall and Brice are the two best passers in the league.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:43 amI know everyone is entitled to their opinion, thus the purpose of this board. Also it probably wouldn't be as interesting of a discussion if everybody all agreed to the exact same opinions.
That being said, from my observations, Chase is the best passing QB I have ever seen at App in 40 yrs. It is not even close. In every aspect of his passing game he is superior to anybody before him, overall accuracy, timing, quick release, velocity on throws, even his decision making on which receiver to target on a given play. That all being said, I don't expect any QB at any level to never make a mistake. In passing game a QB/receiver have to push the limits and sometimes it works with good players on our side but sometimes a defender just makes a great play. In other words, against better opponents you don't always get uncontested passing situations. That is part of our offense's decision making process, do you/can you make a big play in tight coverage. Chase can flat out make throws we have not seen any previous App QB could make. That is difference in good vs great teams/players. In the decision making category, Chase is still improving his decision making game over game.
I remember hearing Brady saying, when he watches game film he always sees the play in terms of what "He can do", not what some other type skilled QB could run the play. That is a great point I think of when comparing Chase to Zac or Armanti. Each had different skills to execute a play, Chase seems to be continually improving on his decision making based on his capabilities.
When you say best passing do you mean just most accurate or decision maker? I ask because Armanti and Joe Burchette both had stronger arms. Just hard for me to say anyone is better than Armanti and you know we had some real good ones back in 60s, 70s, and 80s. I do think if Brice keeps it up and continues to improve that he could end up being among our top 5 QBs all-time for sure.
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As I recall, most, if not all, of the throwbacks to ZT were to him in the endzone. I have no issue with the call. The execution was the problem. Malik was late with the throw, which allowed the Defender to get there. I’m not laying it all on Malik, but if the throw is there, Brice catches it, steps out of bounds to avoid the hit. Life moves on and we are lauding Ponce for a brilliant play call.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:14 amThe result definitely is the reason for most of the uproar. I thought the play with a guy like Zac was smart because he could fly but Brice is not that fast so I wonder what we were trying to set up with it. I think a few on 247 mentioned just the fact it was Brice and his lack of big time speed. I thought that play would be better if we put Wells or Virgil in Brice's spot and put Brice in the slot and maybe had Malik or Brice throw that ball to someone with their type speed if we were going to do that. That can be a big play if you have right personnel and executed correctly but definitely has to be set up by some prior plays.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:14 pmFunny thing is if that play would have worked then some of you that are criticizing it would be all aglow at how creative and imaginative it was. It really wasn’t anymore risky than if he were exposed on a roll out or the shot he took in the first half from the free rusher. He’s not a China Doll.