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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by AppStateNews » Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm

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MM Stay here ? Don"t know but he wanted the job and was crushed , the kids wanted him too as best I could tell.
Yup, kids wanted him. If it were the current transfer rules, Donald Sims would have transferred. Cobb threw him (and the other senior leaders) under the bus by saying they begged for Capel to be hired. That wasn't the case at all. The begged for Matt but Cobb followed the money the Harrill's threw to get a UNC guy in there (also, the only reason Fancher was fired)
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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by AppWyo » Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:56 pm

NewApp wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:03 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:49 pm
The Capel hire when McMahon was available was the worst move in the history of App State athletics.
Not moving up in football with ECU way back when is a VERY close second.
Moving at that particular time was a pipe dream. We were barely meeting the minimum number of schoarships to stay in SoCon even. Our stadium wasn't nearly big enough to meet Div I-A minimum requirements. We couldn't raise money worth a crap for scholarships, etc. There are people who would debate this but it was a stretch to say we were ready. ECU wasn't exactly burning up the road their few years until the leg forced NC State and I think UNC to play them and they got all cocky because they upset the big boys a few times. ECU was admitting anyone could walk and chew gum at the same time. They weren't called EZU for nothing.
I was not here then, but it sounds like had we moved up then we would not be where we are now. I imagine had we left when Marshall left we would not be where we are now. I bet Jerry Moore would not have taken the job and we would be mediocre at best and no one would care if we won or lost like we do now. Our bad season are considered fantastic season for most schools at any level.

We have been blessed most of all by not having any scandals that plague so many successful programs. I am sure that after we beat Michigan, everything that Appalachian did was put under an electron microscope.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by Yosef84 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:31 am

I'll buy the Capel hiring as #1 all time bad decision. Extending Fox was more understandable. He was dealing with off-court issues, but no doubt that his on-court performance was a disappointment. Just my opinion but I don't think the decision to remain in the -AA SoCon was a bad one based on the reality of that time. There is no comparison between where we were in 2014 compared with the early 80's. As much as I would have loved to be I-A/FBS earlier, the path we took seems to have been a good one. It's hard to argue with success.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by Boone Goon » Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:03 am

appdaze wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:24 pm
1 athletic item/building
1 campus building
1 campus infrastructure
1 Boone city item
1 App tradition
1 other

If you could change, remove, or add something in each category, what would it be?
...the topic is 'If you could change App' ...not if you could change history.

What would you like to see improved/changed going forward?

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by appgrad2010 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:49 am

NewApp wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:05 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:49 pm
The Capel hire when McMahon was available was the worst move in the history of App State athletics.
Not moving up in football with ECU way back when is a VERY close second.
Is it for sure McMahon really wanted the job other than just expressing an interest?
Yes, yes, and more yes! Crushed by the decision to hire someone with 1 overall years coaching is an understatement. From my understanding, Capel barely had any responsibilities as 3rd assistant coach in the 1 year. The program took a dive off a cliff. Props to Fox for at least improving the academic problems and other issues that came about as a result of the Capel years and developing relationships with alum etc.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by goapps93 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:45 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:10 am
- Need a full-service hotel, whether on-campus or off.

- Selfishly (see the username), I wish they would renovate East Hall rather than tear it down. I'm sure some others feel the same about their old dorms, but there is/was just so much funky history there.

- This isn't just a Boone trend, it's a college town trend, but I wish that King Street could remain mostly the domain of local businesses rather than national chains like Alumni Hall and Ben & Jerry's.
I get what you're saying about local businesses on King St. But I found Alumni Hall on a recent trip up the mountain and it's a great store. Lots of cool gear. I cannot count the number of times I have walked in and out of Mountaineer Mania and Appalachian T's having not found anything I liked. My wife ordered some Auburn shirts online from Alumni Hall because we have niece who is going there in the fall and we're going to wear them to her graduation party. The shirts came separately from two different local stores in or near Auburn. The invoice was placed in an envelope with a handwritten message from the staff, "Go Tigers" and "WDE!!!" Not only was it neat to have the personal messages but it also surprised us that they were picked and shipped from a local store, not a distribution center. I'm looking forward to ordering more App gear online and see what messages come with the order.
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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:48 am

goapps93 wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:45 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:10 am
- Need a full-service hotel, whether on-campus or off.

- Selfishly (see the username), I wish they would renovate East Hall rather than tear it down. I'm sure some others feel the same about their old dorms, but there is/was just so much funky history there.

- This isn't just a Boone trend, it's a college town trend, but I wish that King Street could remain mostly the domain of local businesses rather than national chains like Alumni Hall and Ben & Jerry's.
I get what you're saying about local businesses on King St. But I found Alumni Hall on a recent trip up the mountain and it's a great store. Lots of cool gear. I cannot count the number of times I have walked in and out of Mountaineer Mania and Appalachian T's having not found anything I liked. My wife ordered some Auburn shirts online from Alumni Hall because we have niece who is going there in the fall and we're going to wear them to her graduation party. The shirts came separately from two different local stores in or near Auburn. The invoice was placed in an envelope with a handwritten message from the staff, "Go Tigers" and "WDE!!!" Not only was it neat to have the personal messages but it also surprised us that they were picked and shipped from a local store, not a distribution center. I'm looking forward to ordering more App gear online and see what messages come with the order.
Agree 100% on Alumni Hall. I feel like my wife and I have kept them in business we go in every time in town..I purchased my golf bag online from there. Similar to above, there was a note and extra stickers, etc. When we go in person, the customer service has been very friendly as well.
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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:35 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:48 am
goapps93 wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:45 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:10 am
- Need a full-service hotel, whether on-campus or off.

- Selfishly (see the username), I wish they would renovate East Hall rather than tear it down. I'm sure some others feel the same about their old dorms, but there is/was just so much funky history there.

- This isn't just a Boone trend, it's a college town trend, but I wish that King Street could remain mostly the domain of local businesses rather than national chains like Alumni Hall and Ben & Jerry's.
I get what you're saying about local businesses on King St. But I found Alumni Hall on a recent trip up the mountain and it's a great store. Lots of cool gear. I cannot count the number of times I have walked in and out of Mountaineer Mania and Appalachian T's having not found anything I liked. My wife ordered some Auburn shirts online from Alumni Hall because we have niece who is going there in the fall and we're going to wear them to her graduation party. The shirts came separately from two different local stores in or near Auburn. The invoice was placed in an envelope with a handwritten message from the staff, "Go Tigers" and "WDE!!!" Not only was it neat to have the personal messages but it also surprised us that they were picked and shipped from a local store, not a distribution center. I'm looking forward to ordering more App gear online and see what messages come with the order.
Agree 100% on Alumni Hall. I feel like my wife and I have kept them in business we go in every time in town..I purchased my golf bag online from there. Similar to above, there was a note and extra stickers, etc. When we go in person, the customer service has been very friendly as well.
Agree. Great store and nice folks. Alumni Hall is Boone’s version of Costco. Can’t leave without buying more than you intended when you walked in.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:11 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:45 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:10 am
- Need a full-service hotel, whether on-campus or off.

- Selfishly (see the username), I wish they would renovate East Hall rather than tear it down. I'm sure some others feel the same about their old dorms, but there is/was just so much funky history there.

- This isn't just a Boone trend, it's a college town trend, but I wish that King Street could remain mostly the domain of local businesses rather than national chains like Alumni Hall and Ben & Jerry's.
I get what you're saying about local businesses on King St. But I found Alumni Hall on a recent trip up the mountain and it's a great store. Lots of cool gear. I cannot count the number of times I have walked in and out of Mountaineer Mania and Appalachian T's having not found anything I liked. My wife ordered some Auburn shirts online from Alumni Hall because we have niece who is going there in the fall and we're going to wear them to her graduation party. The shirts came separately from two different local stores in or near Auburn. The invoice was placed in an envelope with a handwritten message from the staff, "Go Tigers" and "WDE!!!" Not only was it neat to have the personal messages but it also surprised us that they were picked and shipped from a local store, not a distribution center. I'm looking forward to ordering more App gear online and see what messages come with the order.
Hey, I like Ben & Jerry's too. It's not about hating on those stores. It's about keeping Boone unique and supporting local businesses when possible.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by HighlandsApp » Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:36 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:56 pm
NewApp wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:03 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:49 pm
The Capel hire when McMahon was available was the worst move in the history of App State athletics.
Not moving up in football with ECU way back when is a VERY close second.
Moving at that particular time was a pipe dream. We were barely meeting the minimum number of schoarships to stay in SoCon even. Our stadium wasn't nearly big enough to meet Div I-A minimum requirements. We couldn't raise money worth a crap for scholarships, etc. There are people who would debate this but it was a stretch to say we were ready. ECU wasn't exactly burning up the road their few years until the leg forced NC State and I think UNC to play them and they got all cocky because they upset the big boys a few times. ECU was admitting anyone could walk and chew gum at the same time. They weren't called EZU for nothing.
I was not here then, but it sounds like had we moved up then we would not be where we are now. I imagine had we left when Marshall left we would not be where we are now. I bet Jerry Moore would not have taken the job and we would be mediocre at best and no one would care if we won or lost like we do now. Our bad season are considered fantastic season for most schools at any level.

We have been blessed most of all by not having any scandals that plague so many successful programs. I am sure that after we beat Michigan, everything that Appalachian did was put under an electron microscope.
Jerry Moore was working at Arkansas for free when he was hired by his old buddy Jim Garner. He would have taken the job.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by goapps93 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:47 am

EastHallApp wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:11 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:45 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:10 am
- Need a full-service hotel, whether on-campus or off.

- Selfishly (see the username), I wish they would renovate East Hall rather than tear it down. I'm sure some others feel the same about their old dorms, but there is/was just so much funky history there.

- This isn't just a Boone trend, it's a college town trend, but I wish that King Street could remain mostly the domain of local businesses rather than national chains like Alumni Hall and Ben & Jerry's.
I get what you're saying about local businesses on King St. But I found Alumni Hall on a recent trip up the mountain and it's a great store. Lots of cool gear. I cannot count the number of times I have walked in and out of Mountaineer Mania and Appalachian T's having not found anything I liked. My wife ordered some Auburn shirts online from Alumni Hall because we have niece who is going there in the fall and we're going to wear them to her graduation party. The shirts came separately from two different local stores in or near Auburn. The invoice was placed in an envelope with a handwritten message from the staff, "Go Tigers" and "WDE!!!" Not only was it neat to have the personal messages but it also surprised us that they were picked and shipped from a local store, not a distribution center. I'm looking forward to ordering more App gear online and see what messages come with the order.
Hey, I like Ben & Jerry's too. It's not about hating on those stores. It's about keeping Boone unique and supporting local businesses when possible.
Yeah, I get it. I didn't know a thing about Alumni Hall until I saw the one in Boone. My wife informed that they're all over the place. They don't seem to operate like a chain though. The Alumni Hall in Boone is unique in that it only sells App gear. Maybe we can call them quasi-local. I have a tough time supporting local businesses if I can never find anything I want to purchase in their stores.
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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by EastHallApp » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:28 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:47 am
EastHallApp wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:11 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:45 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:10 am
- Need a full-service hotel, whether on-campus or off.

- Selfishly (see the username), I wish they would renovate East Hall rather than tear it down. I'm sure some others feel the same about their old dorms, but there is/was just so much funky history there.

- This isn't just a Boone trend, it's a college town trend, but I wish that King Street could remain mostly the domain of local businesses rather than national chains like Alumni Hall and Ben & Jerry's.
I get what you're saying about local businesses on King St. But I found Alumni Hall on a recent trip up the mountain and it's a great store. Lots of cool gear. I cannot count the number of times I have walked in and out of Mountaineer Mania and Appalachian T's having not found anything I liked. My wife ordered some Auburn shirts online from Alumni Hall because we have niece who is going there in the fall and we're going to wear them to her graduation party. The shirts came separately from two different local stores in or near Auburn. The invoice was placed in an envelope with a handwritten message from the staff, "Go Tigers" and "WDE!!!" Not only was it neat to have the personal messages but it also surprised us that they were picked and shipped from a local store, not a distribution center. I'm looking forward to ordering more App gear online and see what messages come with the order.
Hey, I like Ben & Jerry's too. It's not about hating on those stores. It's about keeping Boone unique and supporting local businesses when possible.
Yeah, I get it. I didn't know a thing about Alumni Hall until I saw the one in Boone. My wife informed that they're all over the place. They don't seem to operate like a chain though. The Alumni Hall in Boone is unique in that it only sells App gear. Maybe we can call them quasi-local. I have a tough time supporting local businesses if I can never find anything I want to purchase in their stores.
Fair enough. It's up to every business to meet the customer's needs.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by Blackshirt68 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:55 pm

Get rid of the EMC commercials on the scoreboard that show fans at the Tennessee games. I think we could find some footage of App fans.

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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by NewApp » Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:02 pm

HighlandsApp wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:36 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:56 pm
NewApp wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:03 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:49 pm
The Capel hire when McMahon was available was the worst move in the history of App State athletics.
Not moving up in football with ECU way back when is a VERY close second.
Moving at that particular time was a pipe dream. We were barely meeting the minimum number of schoarships to stay in SoCon even. Our stadium wasn't nearly big enough to meet Div I-A minimum requirements. We couldn't raise money worth a crap for scholarships, etc. There are people who would debate this but it was a stretch to say we were ready. ECU wasn't exactly burning up the road their few years until the leg forced NC State and I think UNC to play them and they got all cocky because they upset the big boys a few times. ECU was admitting anyone could walk and chew gum at the same time. They weren't called EZU for nothing.
I was not here then, but it sounds like had we moved up then we would not be where we are now. I imagine had we left when Marshall left we would not be where we are now. I bet Jerry Moore would not have taken the job and we would be mediocre at best and no one would care if we won or lost like we do now. Our bad season are considered fantastic season for most schools at any level.

We have been blessed most of all by not having any scandals that plague so many successful programs. I am sure that after we beat Michigan, everything that Appalachian did was put under an electron microscope.
Jerry Moore was working at Arkansas for free when he was hired by his old buddy Jim Garner. He would have taken the job.

Best hire in ASU football history.
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Re: If you could change App.

Unread post by Boone Goon » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:53 pm

Blackshirt68 wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:55 pm
Get rid of the EMC commercials on the scoreboard that show fans at the Tennessee games. I think we could find some footage of App fans.
YES!!!!!!!!!!

With today’s editing software, just color-swap them to yellow!

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