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[AppStFan1]

I'm tired of Clark clearly lying about injuries in his Monday press conferences and us as fans having no clue what running backs will play on Saturday until we see what number is out there.

I'm not one to defend him at all costs but I would not put that stuff out either to be honest. Why give the opponents that info to know who to expect? I would be very vague and never confirm an injury so everyone would find out on game day. What I am tired of is how injury prone our backs are. Either these talented backs are really soft and have a track mentality or something is going wrong to get them injured constantly.

I really believe Clark won't last until December of 2023 and if he loses 3 more this year, which we could, he won't make it to December of 2022. This is the type of loss that either causes this team to regroup and we have a strong November or they fall apart and we win 5-6 games and gets Clark fired. We will see what happens. I hope we turn it around because I love Shawn personally and don't want him gone but I love the program more and winning the right way is what matters most.

With all due respect Clark is not getting fired if we finish 6-6. Some of these takes are absurd

I know several who have been 100% behind him this entire time and are actually now turning on him already. If we miss a bowl or go 6-6 do you not think he gets a lot of pressure? He could win out and this all goes away but if we lost 3 more then he is either gone or on a very, very hot seat next year. You see the way the 247 and this board have blown up with this loss. Imagine losing 3 more this year and another 6 next year.

What do you think would have to happen for him to truly be on the hot seat? After reading the 247 board, which has a lot of long time boosters, several want changes now after seeing the JMU and Texas State collapses.

[AppStFan1]

I remember when in 2019, the defense gave up 41 points to UNCC and it was a calamity. I myself said Roof should be fired ASAP. The players even said Roof was trying to do some new defensive things that didn't work.

The next day, Drinkwitz moved Roof to the booth, made sure some defensive gameplan changes were made and refused to let the defensive coaches speak to the media that week (which I disagreed with). The App defense has had two games worse than that UNCC game in the last seven played and a general issue with any team that has a QB who can throw the ball decently. Not to mention a putrid third down defense.

I think there needs to be serious changes with the defensive staff ASAP.

This lukewarm take is being vilkified on here and by the old heads on twitter.

In my opinion a change in DC is just the start.

As has been mentioned on here before that is very difficult to do since he is dating the daughter of a booster that is so important that he stands on the sideline at every single game, both on the road and home. I literally saw her father standing on the sideline at least a dozen times on TV in this loss. Of course he has enough money if he really loves App he would pay him 150k to sit home and not be our DC but you know that won't happen. lol

You are throwing around a lot of speculations I’ll give you that

What is the speculation? It is a fact that Dale Jones is in a relationship with Tommy Sofield's daughter. Tommy is a big money booster who is on our sideline every single game, has direct access to Clark, Gillin, and anyone else he wants in our program. For those who want Dale Jones gone this is not as simple as just getting rid of Dale without expecting major blow back.

[BambooRdApp]

This is the dumbest take ever..that is all.

"I really believe Clark won't last until December of 2023 and if he loses 3 more this year, which we could, he won't make it to December of 2022"

[ASUTed]

This pretty much nails it

What I see…

Only have one edge rusher - Hampton.
Out of fit Linebackers = arm tacklers.
Need a bigger hitting Safety.
One corner has trouble with man coverage.
Can’t get the other team off the field, defense has few 3 and outs.
Earle and S Jones are studs.

Must find a #1 back. Rotating backs 3-4 backs means they are all fresh, but no one gets in a rhythm.
OL is manhandled at guard and center positions. No inside zone gaps to run.
Stroman and Castle should be given more opportunities.
Pearson is a stud.

On field Intensity and discipline has slipped a little each year since 2018-2019. Transfer portal means most teams today are pretty equal athletically. Being physical and disciplined is critical to winning. We did neither tonight.

[AppUSMC]

We are 2-5 in the last 7 games without a Hail Mary and one of those wins was FCS El Cid. Deep down we all know that Troy win was a lucky last play. In 7 games we have one quality win vs Texas A&M.

Ponder that for a minute.

Im convinced the wheels have fallen off the cart and it makes me sick to my stomach to watch. The leadership looks like a rich kid put in a position they’re not qualified for out of nepotism and they’re just spending daddy’s trust fund. Well the money ran out and it shows. Two and five y’all. Two. And. Five. The lack of coaching talent is starting to take its toll.

I had high hopes after A&M but wow what a complete abortion this season has become.

[hapapp]

Not that it decided the game but what's the logic on going for it on 4th down the first drive? And I basically knew after Noel came up short on 3rd down they would give it to him again. Seen it way too many times in recent years. Brice isn't a threat to run so you crowd the box and even if it's play action you've got enough pressure to force a tough pass.

Play call aside, why risk giving an offense that just drove down the field the ball back with a short field that early in the game?

It was an absolutely reckless call and bordering on arrogance to think the same failed play would work. We did similar against JMU. Rather than showing confidence it's beginning to appear as desperation.

[Snaggy]

Games like this are why we continue to be a fluke and ‘lil ol App State’ to the mainstream. Barely beating an inferior Troy team on a miracle, blowing a 28-3 lead to JMU, and being absolutely dominated by Tx St… all 3 are inexcusable. I’m not ready to call for Clark’s just head yet, but if we don’t see a significant turnaround the collective screams will to too loud for DG to ignore.

[yosef69]

I'm tired of Clark clearly lying about injuries in his Monday press conferences and us as fans having no clue what running backs will play on Saturday until we see what number is out there.

I'm not one to defend him at all costs but I would not put that stuff out either to be honest. Why give the opponents that info to know who to expect? I would be very vague and never confirm an injury so everyone would find out on game day. What I am tired of is how injury prone our backs are. Either these talented backs are really soft and have a track mentality or something is going wrong to get them injured constantly.

I really believe Clark won't last until December of 2023 and if he loses 3 more this year, which we could, he won't make it to December of 2022. This is the type of loss that either causes this team to regroup and we have a strong November or they fall apart and we win 5-6 games and gets Clark fired. We will see what happens. I hope we turn it around because I love Shawn personally and don't want him gone but I love the program more and winning the right way is what matters most.

With all due respect Clark is not getting fired if we finish 6-6. Some of these takes are absurd and what does winning the right way even mean? By 40 points every game so we as fans don’t have to feel bad?

Clarks seat is far hotter than you think

[Rekdiver]

Well at least my investment account is doing well…oh wait…. It’s been a bad year to have a bad year.

[BambooRdApp]

Got up. Put my TIGMA T-shirt on as well as a long mg sleeve Black A long sleeve. Proud to be a Mountaineer!! Wearing it Proud! Let's Go App. St.!!

[appstatealum]

Games like this are why we continue to be a fluke and ‘lil ol App State’ to the mainstream. Barely beating an inferior Troy team on a miracle, blowing a 28-3 lead to JMU, and being absolutely dominated by Tx St… all 3 are inexcusable. I’m not ready to call for Clark’s just head yet, but if we don’t see a significant turnaround the collective screams will to too loud for DG to ignore.

The sad thing is, some people are stuck in that mentality and are content with it. I don't think we are far away from perennial relevance in the g5 ranks, and with the portal, expanded playoffs, and our desirable brand (as was proven this year), we can get the recruits and have national relevance. The little ol "appy culture" has to mature into a g5 powerhouse.

[App_in_Maiden]

Was in Boone Thursday recruiting at the career fair and saw Cam twice. Looked perfectly fine walking. Was wearing sunglasses when in the bookstore so either for fashion/privacy or possibly for whatever kept him out. I don’t want to speculate anything just saying what I saw.

Yesterday was pathetic. Nothing more to be said. Texas State took us to the woodshed and beat us to a pulp. The first half was arguably the worst half of App State football I’ve witnessed in 16 years. As others have mentioned, I always shake my head with our RBs. There’s a different back out there every play it seems so how can any of these guys get into a rhythm? I just don’t get it.

The defense gets no pressure. Texas States qb had all night to throw. We all wanted Roofs head in 2019, but he turned it around. We don’t look like we make any adjustments and if we do, they are the wrong ones. Often times I saw players getting mad on defense after a play. Is it because of the call or is because their teammates didn’t execute?

Whatever the issues are, I have faith they will be fixed one way or another. I will still continue to wear my App gear every Saturday and cheer this team on.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Football struggling is the tip of internal department issues as a whole, it's been lipstick on a pig and some people have been very lucky. Satterfield and his initial staff building the program have made a lot of people wealthy and the 13-1 team that he left Drink was an aberration. No coach coming in after the 13-1 team could have maintained that through COVID.

Plus the Sun Belt teams have caught up with App and quite frankly have more resources and academic less restrictions.

App football fan base has turned into spoiled UNC basketball attitude type fans. 'whine and cheese'

[AppDub]

Cam and Noel always being injured is hurting us. Chop, Marshal and Castle are great 4th quarter backs. Put #14 out there and ride Tecmo Bowl. Take the redshirts off all of the Defensive lineman and just let the best players play. Our LB’s and DB’s are fine, but our line SUCKS!

Free safety spot is an issue. Could use an upgrade there, but not sure where it comes from.

[MrCraig]

I just finished watching Thor: Love and Thunder. Christian Bale is great as the antagonist. And that is about it. The rest of the movie was less than average. I get where they are going with the set ups for future movies, but this was just hard to stay interested in with how terrible the writing is.

Speaking of terrible writing, Rings of Power is just pathetic. The writing is about CW DC show level of bad. They are butchering the timelines that Tolkien created and have just totally gone off the rails at this point making up all sorts of stuff to try and tell their version of his world. I despise that this will be what many younger generations get to see as Tolkien lore and Amazon will use their billions to make it so. Thankfully they can never get rid of Tolkien's original work or they probably would.

Andor is a series that is growing on me a bit even though the main character is such a huge han solo rip off. Truly, read the Han Solo trilogy to get the really story behind the rebellion. It also tells the true ways that han and chewie met and their dealings with the hutts and others as well as why he was on tattooine to begin with. But the andor series is pretty good. It's interesting to see what these mortals are doing in the universe of demi God force users.

You cray cray. Rings of Power is awesome. And the part in Thor where he gave the kids his power was lit.

By calling him cray cray you might have summed up why you like Ring of Power. I kid I kid. However you are in the minority with your take. That show is getting roasted

Interesting, I’ve read the books and enjoy all the Easter Eggs and wondering if the stranger is Sauron or one of the blue wizards. Not sure if you’re aware, but Tolkien Estate did not allow use of Tolkiens other books, and only references from existing movies. So if it doesn’t follow the book timelines, it’s one Tolkien Estates

I’ve really enjoyed 2/3 of Rings of Power. But as soon as the Harfoots show up, I get my phone and check out. I don’t care about those goofy, moon faced, boring little weirdos. And they’re story line is so jarring when they switch to it. Like, here are two story lines about the fate of Middle Earth, the elves, and Numenor- oh now let’s spend 20 minutes watching these proto-hobbits goof around with a wizard guy for seemingly no reason. I haven’t watched this week’s episode. I hope that part get better.

Related- thoughts on House of the Dragon? To me, it seems like every episode is 50 minutes of boring, mostly pointless conversation, and then crazy stuff happens the last 10 minutes. I’m close to giving up to it because it just feels like cheap cliffhangers every episode.

[Longrifle28]

After sleeping on it, about the only thing I can say, is that we are consistently inconsistent.....

[MrCraig]

I remember when in 2019, the defense gave up 41 points to UNCC and it was a calamity. I myself said Roof should be fired ASAP. The players even said Roof was trying to do some new defensive things that didn't work.

The next day, Drinkwitz moved Roof to the booth, made sure some defensive gameplan changes were made and refused to let the defensive coaches speak to the media that week (which I disagreed with). The App defense has had two games worse than that UNCC game in the last seven played and a general issue with any team that has a QB who can throw the ball decently. Not to mention a putrid third down defense.

I think there needs to be serious changes with the defensive staff ASAP.

This lukewarm take is being vilkified on here and by the old heads on twitter.

In my opinion a change in DC is just the start.

As has been mentioned on here before that is very difficult to do since he is dating the daughter of a booster that is so important that he stands on the sideline at every single game, both on the road and home. I literally saw her father standing on the sideline at least a dozen times on TV in this loss. Of course he has enough money if he really loves App he would pay him 150k to sit home and not be our DC but you know that won't happen. lol

You are throwing around a lot of speculations I’ll give you that

What is the speculation? It is a fact that Dale Jones is in a relationship with Tommy Sofield's daughter. Tommy is a big money booster who is on our sideline every single game, has direct access to Clark, Gillin, and anyone else he wants in our program. For those who want Dale Jones gone this is not as simple as just getting rid of Dale without expecting major blow back.

Any program ham strung by one donor is not a good program. If you make decisions based on the romantic relationships of people who give money to the program, you are asking for program rot. I don’t care how much this dude donates, if App keeps losing, fans quit showing up. Fans quit showing up, money stops coming in, and ALL sports will suffer. IF all that is true, it certainly taints my view of Clark and Gillin a lot.

[appstatealum]

Right. Caring about one donor is small time BS. We are past that. If he takes his name off stuff bc his Beau gets fired, he can go throw money at Western.

[Howard Street Hooligan]

Football struggling is the tip of internal department issues as a whole, it's been lipstick on a pig and some people have been very lucky. Satterfield and his initial staff building the program have made a lot of people wealthy and the 13-1 team that he left Drink was an aberration. No coach coming in after the 13-1 team could have maintained that through COVID.

Plus the Sun Belt teams have caught up with App and quite frankly have more resources and academic less restrictions.

App football fan base has turned into spoiled UNC basketball attitude type fans. 'whine and cheese'

We’ve been consistently inconsistent under Clark and declined in every phase. Very easily could be winless right now but sure go on about wine and cheese. SMH

[appgrad95&97]

Looking back, the Marshall game in 2020 looks pretty instructive. We looked overwhelmed. I think we were more talented than Marshall, but we never seemed to get it together. I don't think we play up to our talent.