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[t4pizza]

The comments from former players on Twitter show surprise and concern….
We are not alone….

link? or links if it’s multiple tweets. Would like to see what they are saying. i saw darrynton a little and henni

I'd like to see some of the available alum like AE, TL, Zac, Jalin Moore, Middleton, Henni, Fehr, Demarco, Duck, etc come to Boone and have a little "chat" with the locker room. Perhaps it would fire up the troops who are not "giving their all", or show them the transfer portal.

That’s cool but these conversations need to happen with the current leaders of this team.

Im good with this! If the guys who have been there and are stakeholders in "the culture" have a say, I think it stands a good chance of being heard..

I think that kids nowadays often turn a deaf ear to "old timers" and yes that includes guys that just graduated a few years ago. We all remember AE but most of these kids 3-7 when he was playing. I really don't think bringing in the old guard will matter at all, this has to come from within the current roster.

[AppStateNews]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but I believe we are going through what happens when you have 3 head coaches in 3 years (Satt-Drink-Clark), 5 OC's in the last 5 years, and the COVID year in the middle of it all. Lack of consistency with recruiting and player development has put us where we are today. We've lost our traditional depth at many positions, and with the recent senior class that graduated we just haven't been able to "reload" like normal. Add injuries to the mix of already thin rotations and position groups and no on the field coaching/play calling will solve the roster issues. I do believe the ship will be righted, and that bailing on this staff for another coach would just delay that process even more.

Clarks 4th and 5th years we should see that consistency and depth at key/ALL positions

Don’t forget about coaching turnover at CB. We only have 1 guy that was recruited to play CB between 2018 and 2021 left on the roster.

Isn't that what the transfer portal is for? I know it's hard to find instant plug and plays, but with our winning tradition and culture the portal should be a benefit to us. If our secondary room looked this bad on paper 8 months ago, you think we would go out and add more than 1 juco CB...not rocket science. He's had plenty of time with the portal to add pieces, depth and starters.
PS- I know we lost a lot on defense and offense last year, but we also returned a ton of talent...not sure how we are lacking in so many KEY positions (all positions are key) right now.

I guess you haven't been paying attention? They tried.

[AppTillIDie]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but I believe we are going through what happens when you have 3 head coaches in 3 years (Satt-Drink-Clark), 5 OC's in the last 5 years, and the COVID year in the middle of it all. Lack of consistency with recruiting and player development has put us where we are today. We've lost our traditional depth at many positions, and with the recent senior class that graduated we just haven't been able to "reload" like normal. Add injuries to the mix of already thin rotations and position groups and no on the field coaching/play calling will solve the roster issues. I do believe the ship will be righted, and that bailing on this staff for another coach would just delay that process even more.

Clarks 4th and 5th years we should see that consistency and depth at key/ALL positions

Don’t forget about coaching turnover at CB. We only have 1 guy that was recruited to play CB between 2018 and 2021 left on the roster.

Isn't that what the transfer portal is for? I know it's hard to find instant plug and plays, but with our winning tradition and culture the portal should be a benefit to us. If our secondary room looked this bad on paper 8 months ago, you think we would go out and add more than 1 juco CB...not rocket science. He's had plenty of time with the portal to add pieces, depth and starters.
PS- I know we lost a lot on defense and offense last year, but we also returned a ton of talent...not sure how we are lacking in so many KEY positions (all positions are key) right now.

We chased CBs all off season and nothing played out. I know a couple of guys committed then decommitted to go to a P5. Clark tried.

[311neers]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but I believe we are going through what happens when you have 3 head coaches in 3 years (Satt-Drink-Clark), 5 OC's in the last 5 years, and the COVID year in the middle of it all. Lack of consistency with recruiting and player development has put us where we are today. We've lost our traditional depth at many positions, and with the recent senior class that graduated we just haven't been able to "reload" like normal. Add injuries to the mix of already thin rotations and position groups and no on the field coaching/play calling will solve the roster issues. I do believe the ship will be righted, and that bailing on this staff for another coach would just delay that process even more.

Clarks 4th and 5th years we should see that consistency and depth at key/ALL positions

Don’t forget about coaching turnover at CB. We only have 1 guy that was recruited to play CB between 2018 and 2021 left on the roster.

Isn't that what the transfer portal is for? I know it's hard to find instant plug and plays, but with our winning tradition and culture the portal should be a benefit to us. If our secondary room looked this bad on paper 8 months ago, you think we would go out and add more than 1 juco CB...not rocket science. He's had plenty of time with the portal to add pieces, depth and starters.
PS- I know we lost a lot on defense and offense last year, but we also returned a ton of talent...not sure how we are lacking in so many KEY positions (all positions are key) right now.

I guess you haven't been paying attention? They tried.

We know he tried and that we had 2 guys committed in February. We needed a lot of pieces at different position groups.... DL, DT, Secondary, WR. We got a couple pieces at each, but maybe not enough. Keep trying and calling the P5- SEC/ACC kids that want more PT and a winning tradition and culture. I do wish our academic transfer situation would become easier for kids to transfer in, that seems to be hurting us while others are succeeding with the portal.

[bcoach]

Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?

[Appmountaineers19]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but I believe we are going through what happens when you have 3 head coaches in 3 years (Satt-Drink-Clark), 5 OC's in the last 5 years, and the COVID year in the middle of it all. Lack of consistency with recruiting and player development has put us where we are today. We've lost our traditional depth at many positions, and with the recent senior class that graduated we just haven't been able to "reload" like normal. Add injuries to the mix of already thin rotations and position groups and no on the field coaching/play calling will solve the roster issues. I do believe the ship will be righted, and that bailing on this staff for another coach would just delay that process even more.

Clarks 4th and 5th years we should see that consistency and depth at key/ALL positions

Don’t forget about coaching turnover at CB. We only have 1 guy that was recruited to play CB between 2018 and 2021 left on the roster.

Isn't that what the transfer portal is for? I know it's hard to find instant plug and plays, but with our winning tradition and culture the portal should be a benefit to us. If our secondary room looked this bad on paper 8 months ago, you think we would go out and add more than 1 juco CB...not rocket science. He's had plenty of time with the portal to add pieces, depth and starters.
PS- I know we lost a lot on defense and offense last year, but we also returned a ton of talent...not sure how we are lacking in so many KEY positions (all positions are key) right now.

I guess you haven't been paying attention? They tried.

We know he tried and that we had 2 guys committed in February. We needed a lot of pieces at different position groups.... DL, DT, Secondary, WR. We got a couple pieces at each, but maybe not enough. Keep trying and calling the P5- SEC/ACC kids that want more PT and a winning tradition and culture. I do wish our academic transfer situation would become easier for kids to transfer in, that seems to be hurting us while others are succeeding with the portal.

So I think WR is in really good shape. DL and secondary is where APP needed help for sure. The more pressure you can get with the line the better the back half will be. Sure you can keep calling the P5's but they are also getting offers from possibly other P5's or schools they deem a better fit. It's just not that easy as saying come to a winning culture - many more factors involved for both sides.

[AppSt94]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but I believe we are going through what happens when you have 3 head coaches in 3 years (Satt-Drink-Clark), 5 OC's in the last 5 years, and the COVID year in the middle of it all. Lack of consistency with recruiting and player development has put us where we are today. We've lost our traditional depth at many positions, and with the recent senior class that graduated we just haven't been able to "reload" like normal. Add injuries to the mix of already thin rotations and position groups and no on the field coaching/play calling will solve the roster issues. I do believe the ship will be righted, and that bailing on this staff for another coach would just delay that process even more.

Clarks 4th and 5th years we should see that consistency and depth at key/ALL positions

Don’t forget about coaching turnover at CB. We only have 1 guy that was recruited to play CB between 2018 and 2021 left on the roster.

Isn't that what the transfer portal is for? I know it's hard to find instant plug and plays, but with our winning tradition and culture the portal should be a benefit to us. If our secondary room looked this bad on paper 8 months ago, you think we would go out and add more than 1 juco CB...not rocket science. He's had plenty of time with the portal to add pieces, depth and starters.
PS- I know we lost a lot on defense and offense last year, but we also returned a ton of talent...not sure how we are lacking in so many KEY positions (all positions are key) right now.

I guess you haven't been paying attention? They tried.

We know he tried and that we had 2 guys committed in February. We needed a lot of pieces at different position groups.... DL, DT, Secondary, WR. We got a couple pieces at each, but maybe not enough. Keep trying and calling the P5- SEC/ACC kids that want more PT and a winning tradition and culture. I do wish our academic transfer situation would become easier for kids to transfer in, that seems to be hurting us while others are succeeding with the portal.

I don’t know why “calling” P5s or SEC schools is the answer. Those schools have duds just like everyone else. Guys leaving looking for playing time can be guys that didn’t put in the work to earn playing time. The portal is a dangerous place to live and breathe. Minimal time to develop relationships and a smaller margin of error to get it right make it tricky to be successful long term.

[311neers]

Don’t forget about coaching turnover at CB. We only have 1 guy that was recruited to play CB between 2018 and 2021 left on the roster.

Isn't that what the transfer portal is for? I know it's hard to find instant plug and plays, but with our winning tradition and culture the portal should be a benefit to us. If our secondary room looked this bad on paper 8 months ago, you think we would go out and add more than 1 juco CB...not rocket science. He's had plenty of time with the portal to add pieces, depth and starters.
PS- I know we lost a lot on defense and offense last year, but we also returned a ton of talent...not sure how we are lacking in so many KEY positions (all positions are key) right now.

I guess you haven't been paying attention? They tried.

We know he tried and that we had 2 guys committed in February. We needed a lot of pieces at different position groups.... DL, DT, Secondary, WR. We got a couple pieces at each, but maybe not enough. Keep trying and calling the P5- SEC/ACC kids that want more PT and a winning tradition and culture. I do wish our academic transfer situation would become easier for kids to transfer in, that seems to be hurting us while others are succeeding with the portal.

I don’t know why “calling” P5s or SEC schools is the answer. Those schools have duds just like everyone else. Guys leaving looking for playing time can be guys that didn’t put in the work to earn playing time. The portal is a dangerous place to live and breathe. Minimal time to develop relationships and a smaller margin of error to get it right make it tricky to be successful long term.

It’s not the only answer, but it’s a good start to find some answers. Can always find some fcs/d2 gems which we have tried this year…not sure it’s working. I’m sure the p5 guys that transferred “down” are succeeding at a higher clip as opposed to the fcs to fbs guys are. Portal is definitely dangerous and can’t live and die by it, that’s not who we are, but we had huge needs this year and dove into it- just didn’t hit at a good clip. It’ll be there next year if we need it. Our future depth and recruiting looks bright, especially out wide and in the backfield.

[WVAPPeer]

Just a quick glance at the TX St roster shows 38 transfers just from FBS schools ---

[bcoach]

Just a quick glance at the TX St roster shows 38 transfers just from FBS schools ---

Are they contributing?

[AppSt94]

The portal is an option but not I don’t think that it is necessarily a great one. If you are looking to win now to save a job (Texas St) or win to get a better job (Blake Anderson) then it works because there is little care for the long term damage that it creates. Clark uses it judicially to fill holes of need and holes to bridge gaps in classes. I think that on average, 9 or so portal guys is the safe number. But even then there are huge risks.

[311neers]

Since we are talking about recruiting and transfer portal....

The fighting camels down in Buies Crick with a top 75 recruiting class overall at the moment, (2 spots above us). What is going on there? Very interesting to see kids from California (11 commits), NJ and Florida commit to Campbell. Someone at Campbell got money bags? What kinda NIL scheme is going on in the creek? That MT. Olive pickle money runs deep.

EDIT- Mike Minter is the coach....ah. Makes sense.

[AppStateNews]

Don’t forget about coaching turnover at CB. We only have 1 guy that was recruited to play CB between 2018 and 2021 left on the roster.

Isn't that what the transfer portal is for? I know it's hard to find instant plug and plays, but with our winning tradition and culture the portal should be a benefit to us. If our secondary room looked this bad on paper 8 months ago, you think we would go out and add more than 1 juco CB...not rocket science. He's had plenty of time with the portal to add pieces, depth and starters.
PS- I know we lost a lot on defense and offense last year, but we also returned a ton of talent...not sure how we are lacking in so many KEY positions (all positions are key) right now.

I guess you haven't been paying attention? They tried.

We know he tried and that we had 2 guys committed in February. We needed a lot of pieces at different position groups.... DL, DT, Secondary, WR. We got a couple pieces at each, but maybe not enough. Keep trying and calling the P5- SEC/ACC kids that want more PT and a winning tradition and culture. I do wish our academic transfer situation would become easier for kids to transfer in, that seems to be hurting us while others are succeeding with the portal.

I don’t know why “calling” P5s or SEC schools is the answer. Those schools have duds just like everyone else. Guys leaving looking for playing time can be guys that didn’t put in the work to earn playing time. The portal is a dangerous place to live and breathe. Minimal time to develop relationships and a smaller margin of error to get it right make it tricky to be successful long term.

Not to mention it's illegal. Coaches cannot contact other teams players unless they are in the portal. If they are in the portal, there's a reason. It's the coaches job, not fans, to vet them out. If they aren't a fit, they aren't a fit.

I find it funny that members on a message board think our coaches aren't communicating with guys in the transfer n portal daily. Because we had a couple get poached at the last second by P5s, that just mean they aren't even talking to players... Makes no sense.

[hapapp]

Just a quick glance at the TX St roster shows 38 transfers just from FBS schools ---

Are they contributing?

The QB sure did.

[AppSt94]

Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?

We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.

[Black Saturday]

Since we are talking about recruiting and transfer portal....

The fighting camels down in Buies Crick with a top 75 recruiting class overall at the moment, (2 spots above us). What is going on there? Very interesting to see kids from California (11 commits), NJ and Florida commit to Campbell. Someone at Campbell got money bags? What kinda NIL scheme is going on in the creek? That MT. Olive pickle money runs deep.

EDIT- Mike Minter is the coach....ah. Makes sense.

Not sure if his money goes to football, but I know for a fact that Campbell has access to as deep pockets as there gets in NC.

[AppSt94]

Since we are talking about recruiting and transfer portal....

The fighting camels down in Buies Crick with a top 75 recruiting class overall at the moment, (2 spots above us). What is going on there? Very interesting to see kids from California (11 commits), NJ and Florida commit to Campbell. Someone at Campbell got money bags? What kinda NIL scheme is going on in the creek? That MT. Olive pickle money runs deep.

EDIT- Mike Minter is the coach....ah. Makes sense.

I believe that one of the Assistants has strong ties to California. That could help as well.

[Black Saturday]

Not sure what the credit transfer problem is but I sure hope we keep the same standard as any other student transferring in.
I don't follow the transfer portal but I hear on local radio that it is not all that. What is the success schools are having?

We weren’t taking course credits earned from the previous institutions. So guys that were looking to transfer in were being asked to take classes again. Chase lost something like 30 credit hours when he transferred. I mean he has a degree from Clemson and took classes at Duke and he lost credits because they didn’t transfer. I mean I am all for academic integrity but WTF? He wasn’t trying to transfer African Studies classes from UNC.

Obviously there is a problem with that transfer credits that should to be addressed if its keeping us from being competitive on the amount of good for the University and money that football generates for the High Country. Perfect issue for Dale Jones to ask help from his close connections so it could benefit his job performance too.

[AppSt94]

Wasn’t aware that Dale was having a job performance issue but OK.

[PhillyApp1]

Im still whizzed over the ref who blew the receiver interference call in the JMU game. It cost us momentum when we needed it.

The "powers that be" from the conference have determined it was a missed/error call. As far as the TxSt game goes, without a doubt our players need to be more disciplined. However, the officiating did contributed to the game "getting out of hand" at times, definitely unbecoming of any officiating at this level.

I think there is a trend in the bad calls from the SoCon , I mean Sunbelt refs. The missed calls are definitely effecting games.
The App State players have to clean up and the refs should be reprimanded