It's Bur....Joey Time! - GW discussion

[AppSt94]

I'm just hopeful that Saturday's game will be decided relatively early to allow us to see a lot of the names on this depth chart.

We have a lot of young guys on the 1s & 2s that need reps.

[311neers]

I'm just hopeful that Saturday's game will be decided relatively early to allow us to see a lot of the names on this depth chart.

We have a lot of young guys on the 1s & 2s that need reps.

Get a big lead and get guys the reps they need for UNC-remainder of the schedule. Pray to stay healthy as well. Going to be a fun opener seeing a lot of new faces and numbers haha.

[AppSt94]

OddSharks says 33-26. Thule I don’t think it will be that close, it could be closer than what many are hoping or expecting.

[Saint3333]

OddSharks says 33-26. Thule I don’t think it will be that close, it could be closer than what many are hoping or expecting.

I don't believe that's how the predicted score works on that site. I.e. the "predicted score" for ECU/Michigan is 28.2 - 35, but the line is Michigan -35.5.

The odds aren't out yet on FCS/FBS games. I'd guess the line will be in the 18-22 range, but I could be light.

[AppSt94]

OddSharks says 33-26. Thule I don’t think it will be that close, it could be closer than what many are hoping or expecting.

I don't believe that's how the predicted score works on that site. I.e. the "predicted score" for ECU/Michigan is 28.2 - 35, but the line is Michigan -35.5.

The odds aren't out yet on FCS/FBS games. I'd guess the line will be in the 18-22 range, but I could be light.

It also said the Western Carolina would beat Arkansas. Just pointing out that it could be closer than people “expect.”

[Saint3333]

I can't tell what that prediction score is on that site, but if something looks fishy it probably is. I don't believe Oddshark is saying WCU "would" beat Arkansas. They state it's 28.3 WCU, 28.2 Arkansas. No odds maker would put that as a prediction of that game.

Anyone could beat anyone, but that oddshark data point shouldn't be used in this manner based on the three games mentioned in this thread.

[appgrad95&97]

How in the Hell have we've gotten to the point that the expectations are this low? That a gardner webb game will be competitive? They are good, but like FCS top 20. Seriously, what has happened?

[Saint3333]

Sometimes the simplest explanation in the best. There is a strong correlation between 1) sandbaggers vs. GWebb and 2)defenders of the 6-6 season.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

I'm just hopeful that Saturday's game will be decided relatively early to allow us to see a lot of the names on this depth chart.

We have a lot of young guys on the 1s & 2s that need reps.

I know. I get it. I really do. It's just tough to see and think about as being a possibility. Hopefully they show out. Win and injury free is good enough for me. Signs that the youth has some talent and potential this season, an added bonus.

[AppSt94]

How in the Hell have we've gotten to the point that the expectations are this low? That a gardner webb game will be competitive? They are good, but like FCS top 20. Seriously, what has happened?

It’s not a degree of expectation. It’s factoring in the unknown. We have 6 guys on defense starting for the first time and a host of others that will be getting significant live reps for the first time going against a brilliant offensive mind in play caller Tre Lamb. It’s a great test for our young guys to learn. Lamb will put them in situations that will test what they know. Will they succeed more than they fail? Sure. They have been well coached. Now we get to see if they can put it use in a real game. This is a great test for the defense. The expectation is to win. That’s it. Nothing that happens this weekend, short of injuries, affects the outcome of future outcomes.

[BeauFoster]

GW is going to be a good game to watch until our depth takes over. Their RB may be the best we see all year -- definitely top 5. He's the real deal and is getting a lot of eyes from the next level.

Tre Lamb has a ton of respect in the industry and the Bulldogs will be well coached.

Not sure top 5, but it will definitely be top 12 rushing offense we will see this season

[AppStateNews]

Remember, this is the same fan base that got upset that we only beat Elon 44-10 against a QB that spent some time in the NFL. And Gardner Webb has a significant amount more talent than that Elon team.

Do I think we lose? Absolutely not. Do I think it's going to be closer than the 44-10 final score that caused an uproar in 2021? Yes. Can I see it being a 1 score game at half time? Yes. Do I think we'll ever not be in control of the final outcome of the game. Nope.

Most of our fan base thinks so low of FCS schools now anything less than a 56-0 blowout is absurd, all players need to quit football forever, and all coaches need to be fired immediately so just trying to level set that Gardner Webb isn't going to be a cake walk.

[t4pizza]

Since when did Trey Lamb become a "brilliant offensive mind"? Guess all those smart P5 (or even G5) programs just aren't bright enough to recognize this brilliance and lure him to the big time with money and fame. The guy is a good young coach, let's not make him out to be the next Lincoln Riley, or even his little brother.

[AppStateNews]

Sometimes the simplest explanation in the best. There is a strong correlation between 1) sandbaggers vs. GWebb and 2)defenders of the 6-6 season.

Or there are just some realists that understand its not either if those things...

You very clearly have not done any scouting on Gardner Webb but are seemingly an expert on them.

Can you please let us know how you'd defend against their innovative offense? Seems like you have expert knowledge you're withholding here...

[Saint3333]

"most" is an inaccurate statement. Very few in the fanbase think this way.

Way too much hyperbole is that post.

The majority of our fanbase see fans that predict a 10 point win vs. GW as a sandbagger, and those that expect a 40 point win as unrealistic.

When the line comes out at 21 both sides in the minority should be able to make some good money.

[AppStateNews]

Since when did Trey Lamb become a "brilliant offensive mind"? Guess all those smart P5 (or even G5) programs just aren't bright enough to recognize this brilliance and lure him to the big time with money and fame. The guy is a good young coach, let's not make him out to be the next Lincoln Riley, or even his little brother.

Tre Lamb is very well known as being an innovative young offensive kind.

Lincoln started as a position coach at Texas Tech before becoming an OC at ECU at 27 years old. He also had the benefit of being a QB in an innovative Mike Leach offense.

Meanwhile, Tre Lamb was an OC at an FCS school for one season at 29 years old. In that one season, he transformed the offense from among the worst in the country the previous season to among the best.

So, yes, the resumes are similar. Main difference I see between the two career paths is Riley had an innovative coach that he played for so he already knew the offense and he continued to tweak it. Lamb played in a completely different offensive scheme than the one he currently runs.

[Saint3333]

Sometimes the simplest explanation in the best. There is a strong correlation between 1) sandbaggers vs. GWebb and 2)defenders of the 6-6 season.

Or there are just some realists that understand its not either if those things...

You very clearly have not done any scouting on Gardner Webb but are seemingly an expert on them.

Can you please let us know how you'd defend against their innovative offense? Seems like you have expert knowledge you're withholding here...

Got me there and unlike others can admit it. I haven't watched a GWebb game in awhile, but I can look at their results versus others. My goodness, you are scared that our coaching staff can't watch film and defend Gardner Webb. If that's the case the concern from our fanbase for the season will be real.

If we struggle with their RB, Gore Jr. will have 250 and 100 against us.

[AppStateNews]

"most" is an inaccurate statement. Very few in the fanbase think this way.

Way too much hyperbole is that post.

The majority of our fanbase see fans that predict a 10 point win vs. GW as a sandbagger, and those that expect a 40 point win as unrealistic.

When the line comes out at 21 both sides in the minority should be able to make some good money.

Fair, perhaps it's not most. That's a bad word. A large portion think we should not even be playing FCS schools and the fact that not all of them are blowouts after two possessions drives them crazy.

Obviously my points were extreme but I didn't think I had to point out something that extreme was exaggerating.. figured you had common sense. My bad for assuming...

[Saint3333]

I figured words have meaning and you'd use them appropriately versus click bait culture.

Your perception of the fanbase is hyperbole based, breathe.

[311neers]

Sometimes the simplest explanation in the best. There is a strong correlation between 1) sandbaggers vs. GWebb and 2)defenders of the 6-6 season.

Or there are just some realists that understand its not either if those things...

You very clearly have not done any scouting on Gardner Webb but are seemingly an expert on them.

Can you please let us know how you'd defend against their innovative offense? Seems like you have expert knowledge you're withholding here...

Similar to our offense, which is innovative in different things we can do. A lot of pistol sets, stretch zone runs- RPO's. They'll pull guards sometimes in the run game along with some misdirected reverses. 2 tight end sets, some motions with tight ends. They'll try to spread us out, we cant put our linebackers in coverage or they might get us over the middle. All starts with plugging the gaps and blowing up their line. If we can stop the run we should be fine, hit em in the mouth and apply pressure. Losing their qb and some out wide skill guys should help our secondary. I'm excited to see our OLB/DE against what should be an inferior OL. My guess is they'll help chip our OLB/DE a good bit in pass pro or throw right at them as blitzers. Just some thoughts, sorry for jumping the gun.

Kind of feels like we're going against our own offense. We should be well prepped for the running dogs!