Clemson game thread and discussion
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We have a chance...But....we will have to bring everything we have to not get blown out. Do not underestimate them. If we have a slow start, it's going to get ugly fast. They are still a good college team. GA is just on another level right now as a program. Dabo is an evangelical preacher in that locker room, and he will have them baptized in hell, fire, and brimstone, ready to rip off heads and exorcise demons when they run out on that field. His seat is getting a little hotter right now as they have been on a subtle decline since their chip and then 4-4 conference last year. Their donors will be getting antsy. It's going to be a great game if our O-line can get some of the same pockets they gave Joey in this first game. We just have to say a prayer for our defense because even good defenses get burned by good plays.
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ETSU had 4.6 ypc on our D. That is unacceptable against that opponent. As a comparison, Clemson had 2.1 ypc against Georgia.
We have to be able to keep a much tighter control over the opponents running game.
We have to be able to keep a much tighter control over the opponents running game.
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100%. We are on the other end here from this last game where we got to start fast and keep it close late in the third or going into 4th. They remind me a little bit of A&M so if we can control the clock and not give up big plays then perhaps we have a shot. I just wish they did not get blown out by UGA because they will be laser focused. The one reason I think we can have a shot is because our QB is better than theirs but they will have the best defense we will see this year by far.appdaze wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:51 amWe have a chance...But....we will have to bring everything we have to not get blown out. Do not underestimate them. If we have a slow start, it's going to get ugly fast. They are still a good college team. GA is just on another level right now as a program. Dabo is an evangelical preacher in that locker room, and he will have them baptized in hell, fire, and brimstone, ready to rip off heads and exorcise demons when they run out on that field. His seat is getting a little hotter right now as they have been on a subtle decline since their chip and then 4-4 conference last year. Their donors will be getting antsy. It's going to be a great game if our O-line can get some of the same pockets they gave Joey in this first game. We just have to say a prayer for our defense because even good defenses get burned by good plays.
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But both are top two running backs averaged less than 4 yards a pop. The OL was much better in pass protect.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:31 amYes, we were flat at times. But, we had 500 yards of offense and averaged 5.4 yards per carry. Plus, we didn’t give up a sack.hapapp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:06 amThis. I didn't see anything that gave me the confidence our OL will be a match for their DL. Of course, I would expect a different approach against Clemson than we did yesterday. OTOH, I doubt Clemson loads the box as much as ETSU did.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:04 amhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 99db&ei=10
We are going to have to make a large leap improving our offensive and defensive line play from week 1 to week 2 to come within this line of 17ish and that's what the oddsmakers see. Clemson played the best team in the land, and we played a garbage FCS. I expect the line to climb before Saturday. their RB Mothra gonna run for 150+ on us
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We were vanilla for the most part, controlled
the game and were missing some players. We didn’t see the full extent of our product on display. We saw Clempson’s full product, which has some good attributes, but has a recallable defect at QB.
the game and were missing some players. We didn’t see the full extent of our product on display. We saw Clempson’s full product, which has some good attributes, but has a recallable defect at QB.
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I think it will be important to start the game hitting quick passes to get the running game going.
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I think that this needs a bit of context. While you can’t remove outliers from the stats, it is important to acknowledge them when assessing performance. They had 183 yards on 40 runs. If you take out the one 80 yard run they had an average of 2.6 ypc.
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They averaged 2.6 on 39 of their 40 attempts. The one big run skews the numbers a bit. It counts but our run D performance was mostly very good.
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I just don’t have a feel for how good a measuring stick ETSU is. It’s going to be a few weeks before we know what we have.
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I’ll tell you what actually does worry me, 6-0. That was the Clemson/UGA score at halftime.
UGA is the bonified title favorite for good reason and Clemson was right there with them for a half. We are gonna have a heck of a time moving the ball against the Tigers defense.
UGA is the bonified title favorite for good reason and Clemson was right there with them for a half. We are gonna have a heck of a time moving the ball against the Tigers defense.
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Their front 7 is absurd. We’ve got our work cut out in that realm.ah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:12 pmI’ll tell you what actually does worry me, 6-0. That was the Clemson/UGA score at halftime.
UGA is the bonified title favorite for good reason and Clemson was right there with them for a half. We are gonna have a heck of a time moving the ball against the Tigers defense.
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Their defense is really good. They wore down as the game went on because the offense couldn’t sustain drives to give them a blow.ah59396 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:12 pmI’ll tell you what actually does worry me, 6-0. That was the Clemson/UGA score at halftime.
UGA is the bonified title favorite for good reason and Clemson was right there with them for a half. We are gonna have a heck of a time moving the ball against the Tigers defense.
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That’s why you have to play 60 minutes. UGA came out and adjusted. Clemson did not or could not adapt.
We didn’t play 60 mins this week but I am sure we will be motivated to next game. You also have to adapt to how your opponent adjusts.
We didn’t play 60 mins this week but I am sure we will be motivated to next game. You also have to adapt to how your opponent adjusts.
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Football isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
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4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espnBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pmFootball isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.
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Style points will absolutely matter and I hope Shawn realizes that. The reality is with this current system you hurt yourself by holding back and not trying to make a statement.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:59 pm4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espnBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pmFootball isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.
Just doing the math on the picks for playoff I would imagine 3 from SEC and Big Ten each, 2 from Big 12 and ACC each, and highest rated G5 champ. That is 11 spots. If a second G5 team is going to get in or you want to guarantee you are highest rated I think style points will matter big time. For the record I don't think a 2nd G5 gets in so you better have style points and have the best record.
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Exactly. We need style points because we don't want to be the #2 G5 team because another team is winning with more style points. Even though I think the SBC is better I firmly believe if the committee is picking between a 12-1 or 13-0 from the AAC, SBC, and MWC that we would get left out.
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SEC might get more than 3 in.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:16 pmStyle points will absolutely matter and I hope Shawn realizes that. The reality is with this current system you hurt yourself by holding back and not trying to make a statement.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:59 pm4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espnBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pmFootball isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.
Just doing the math on the picks for playoff I would imagine 3 from SEC and Big Ten each, 2 from Big 12 and ACC each, and highest rated G5 champ. That is 11 spots. If a second G5 team is going to get in or you want to guarantee you are highest rated I think style points will matter big time.
Georgia Bama Texas OU Ole Miss Mizzou and Tennessee all have a solid chance. ACC only getting 1 in at this rate. Edit: Forgot LSU. Sheesh, that’s 8 teams that can run with anyone. Might be time to go to 16 already! Haha
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You hit the nail on the head, by design it's an SEC and B1G show, everyone is likely 1 and done311neers wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pmSEC might get more than 3 in.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:16 pmStyle points will absolutely matter and I hope Shawn realizes that. The reality is with this current system you hurt yourself by holding back and not trying to make a statement.AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:59 pm4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espnBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pmFootball isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.
Just doing the math on the picks for playoff I would imagine 3 from SEC and Big Ten each, 2 from Big 12 and ACC each, and highest rated G5 champ. That is 11 spots. If a second G5 team is going to get in or you want to guarantee you are highest rated I think style points will matter big time.
Georgia Bama Texas OU Ole Miss Mizzou and Tennessee all have a solid chance. ACC only getting 1 in at this rate. Edit: Forgot LSU. Sheesh, that’s 8 teams that can run with anyone. Might be time to go to 16 already! Haha
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