Clemson game thread and discussion

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by appdaze » Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:51 am

We have a chance...But....we will have to bring everything we have to not get blown out. Do not underestimate them. If we have a slow start, it's going to get ugly fast. They are still a good college team. GA is just on another level right now as a program. Dabo is an evangelical preacher in that locker room, and he will have them baptized in hell, fire, and brimstone, ready to rip off heads and exorcise demons when they run out on that field. His seat is getting a little hotter right now as they have been on a subtle decline since their chip and then 4-4 conference last year. Their donors will be getting antsy. It's going to be a great game if our O-line can get some of the same pockets they gave Joey in this first game. We just have to say a prayer for our defense because even good defenses get burned by good plays.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:18 pm

ETSU had 4.6 ypc on our D. That is unacceptable against that opponent. As a comparison, Clemson had 2.1 ypc against Georgia.

We have to be able to keep a much tighter control over the opponents running game.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:22 pm

appdaze wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:51 am
We have a chance...But....we will have to bring everything we have to not get blown out. Do not underestimate them. If we have a slow start, it's going to get ugly fast. They are still a good college team. GA is just on another level right now as a program. Dabo is an evangelical preacher in that locker room, and he will have them baptized in hell, fire, and brimstone, ready to rip off heads and exorcise demons when they run out on that field. His seat is getting a little hotter right now as they have been on a subtle decline since their chip and then 4-4 conference last year. Their donors will be getting antsy. It's going to be a great game if our O-line can get some of the same pockets they gave Joey in this first game. We just have to say a prayer for our defense because even good defenses get burned by good plays.
100%. We are on the other end here from this last game where we got to start fast and keep it close late in the third or going into 4th. They remind me a little bit of A&M so if we can control the clock and not give up big plays then perhaps we have a shot. I just wish they did not get blown out by UGA because they will be laser focused. The one reason I think we can have a shot is because our QB is better than theirs but they will have the best defense we will see this year by far.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by hapapp » Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:36 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:31 am
hapapp wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:06 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:04 am
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 99db&ei=10

We are going to have to make a large leap improving our offensive and defensive line play from week 1 to week 2 to come within this line of 17ish and that's what the oddsmakers see. Clemson played the best team in the land, and we played a garbage FCS. I expect the line to climb before Saturday. their RB Mothra gonna run for 150+ on us
This. I didn't see anything that gave me the confidence our OL will be a match for their DL. Of course, I would expect a different approach against Clemson than we did yesterday. OTOH, I doubt Clemson loads the box as much as ETSU did.
Yes, we were flat at times. But, we had 500 yards of offense and averaged 5.4 yards per carry. Plus, we didn’t give up a sack.
But both are top two running backs averaged less than 4 yards a pop. The OL was much better in pass protect.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:43 pm

We were vanilla for the most part, controlled
the game and were missing some players. We didn’t see the full extent of our product on display. We saw Clempson’s full product, which has some good attributes, but has a recallable defect at QB.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AppState00_01 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:55 pm

I think it will be important to start the game hitting quick passes to get the running game going.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:20 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:18 pm
ETSU had 4.6 ypc on our D. That is unacceptable against that opponent. As a comparison, Clemson had 2.1 ypc against Georgia.

We have to be able to keep a much tighter control over the opponents running game.
I think that this needs a bit of context. While you can’t remove outliers from the stats, it is important to acknowledge them when assessing performance. They had 183 yards on 40 runs. If you take out the one 80 yard run they had an average of 2.6 ypc.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

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AtlAppMan wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:18 pm
ETSU had 4.6 ypc on our D. That is unacceptable against that opponent. As a comparison, Clemson had 2.1 ypc against Georgia.

We have to be able to keep a much tighter control over the opponents running game.
They averaged 2.6 on 39 of their 40 attempts. The one big run skews the numbers a bit. It counts but our run D performance was mostly very good.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:31 pm

I just don’t have a feel for how good a measuring stick ETSU is. It’s going to be a few weeks before we know what we have.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by ah59396 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:12 pm

I’ll tell you what actually does worry me, 6-0. That was the Clemson/UGA score at halftime.

UGA is the bonified title favorite for good reason and Clemson was right there with them for a half. We are gonna have a heck of a time moving the ball against the Tigers defense.
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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:15 pm

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I’ll tell you what actually does worry me, 6-0. That was the Clemson/UGA score at halftime.

UGA is the bonified title favorite for good reason and Clemson was right there with them for a half. We are gonna have a heck of a time moving the ball against the Tigers defense.
Their front 7 is absurd. We’ve got our work cut out in that realm.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:20 pm

ah59396 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:12 pm
I’ll tell you what actually does worry me, 6-0. That was the Clemson/UGA score at halftime.

UGA is the bonified title favorite for good reason and Clemson was right there with them for a half. We are gonna have a heck of a time moving the ball against the Tigers defense.
Their defense is really good. They wore down as the game went on because the offense couldn’t sustain drives to give them a blow.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:11 pm

That’s why you have to play 60 minutes. UGA came out and adjusted. Clemson did not or could not adapt.

We didn’t play 60 mins this week but I am sure we will be motivated to next game. You also have to adapt to how your opponent adjusts.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pm

Football isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.

4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn

Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:59 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pm
Football isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.


4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn

Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:16 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:59 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pm
Football isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.


4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn

Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.
Style points will absolutely matter and I hope Shawn realizes that. The reality is with this current system you hurt yourself by holding back and not trying to make a statement.

Just doing the math on the picks for playoff I would imagine 3 from SEC and Big Ten each, 2 from Big 12 and ACC each, and highest rated G5 champ. That is 11 spots. If a second G5 team is going to get in or you want to guarantee you are highest rated I think style points will matter big time. For the record I don't think a 2nd G5 gets in so you better have style points and have the best record.
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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:18 pm

Two G5s won’t get in.

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:37 pm

Stonewall wrote:
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Two G5s won’t get in.
Exactly. We need style points because we don't want to be the #2 G5 team because another team is winning with more style points. Even though I think the SBC is better I firmly believe if the committee is picking between a 12-1 or 13-0 from the AAC, SBC, and MWC that we would get left out.
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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by 311neers » Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:16 pm
AtlAppMan wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:59 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pm
Football isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.


4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn

Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.
Style points will absolutely matter and I hope Shawn realizes that. The reality is with this current system you hurt yourself by holding back and not trying to make a statement.

Just doing the math on the picks for playoff I would imagine 3 from SEC and Big Ten each, 2 from Big 12 and ACC each, and highest rated G5 champ. That is 11 spots. If a second G5 team is going to get in or you want to guarantee you are highest rated I think style points will matter big time.
SEC might get more than 3 in.
Georgia Bama Texas OU Ole Miss Mizzou and Tennessee all have a solid chance. ACC only getting 1 in at this rate. Edit: Forgot LSU. Sheesh, that’s 8 teams that can run with anyone. Might be time to go to 16 already! Haha

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Re: Clemson game thread and discussion

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:49 pm

311neers wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:16 pm
AtlAppMan wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:59 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:38 pm
Football isn't supposed to be transitive UGa 34-3 over Clemson , Clemson -17 to APP = UGa -48 to APP - potentially one of our best teams ever. The absurd thing is Ga and a few others could probably beat us all they wanted. 2024 Fiesta Bowl Oregon over Liberty.


4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn
Non P4 really is JV now with lack of NIL money, FCS is 7-8th grade - lol
4 SEC teams won by a record 60+ points, most since 1937 by a conference on opening day - espn

Tells me some coaches realize style points are going to matter when it comes down to who is picked for CFP. We better take note.
Style points will absolutely matter and I hope Shawn realizes that. The reality is with this current system you hurt yourself by holding back and not trying to make a statement.

Just doing the math on the picks for playoff I would imagine 3 from SEC and Big Ten each, 2 from Big 12 and ACC each, and highest rated G5 champ. That is 11 spots. If a second G5 team is going to get in or you want to guarantee you are highest rated I think style points will matter big time.
SEC might get more than 3 in.
Georgia Bama Texas OU Ole Miss Mizzou and Tennessee all have a solid chance. ACC only getting 1 in at this rate. Edit: Forgot LSU. Sheesh, that’s 8 teams that can run with anyone. Might be time to go to 16 already! Haha
You hit the nail on the head, by design it's an SEC and B1G show, everyone is likely 1 and done
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