Clemson game thread and discussion

[NewApp]

What happened to the Gorilla?

Had his 19th nervous breakdown over losing.

[T-Dog]

It doesn't matter if App was playing the Chiefs. Giving up 500 yards in the first half and 700 yards total is inexcusable.

Aguilar was rattled and off. The WRs had trouble with separation.

The secondary should be embarrassed. Bad lines, slow and letting WRs run past them. The effort by Farmer on the fourth Clemson TD was pitiful. Only DB who played decently was Favors.

We have 4 RBs and they're all limited. Kanye does kick returns and had two howlers, Castle does pass pro and is more of a FB, Marshall is also a bull rusher and Haywood can be shifty but the coaches don't see him as a feature back.

OL did OK. Joey had enough time to make throws. He just missed many of them.

Lake had a couple bad punts and one outside of the coverage zone.

Clemson played a masterful game and deserves A+ grades across the board. That doesn't excuse being down 42-0 just 18 minutes in.

[Stonewall]

So you’re saying we stunk it up …

[Pikapp79]

So you’re saying we stunk it up …

Just a wee bit.

[Rekdiver]

Same sh*t, different season

[mountaineerman]

Same sh*t, different season

You know Rek I want this to be so wrong you’re embarrassed …but you’re exactly right. Next week will tell us so much about where App football is. We’re trending in the wrong direction I’m afraid.

[Rekdiver]

Same sh*t, different season

You know Rek I want this to be so wrong you’re embarrassed …but you’re exactly right. Next week will tell us so much about where App football is. We’re trending in the wrong direction I’m afraid.

lol…I meant the comments not team play!

[mountaineerman]

Same sh*t, different season

You know Rek I want this to be so wrong you’re embarrassed …but you’re exactly right. Next week will tell us so much about where App football is. We’re trending in the wrong direction I’m afraid.

lol…I meant the comments not team play!

Nice! Keeping the faith love it.

[yosef69]

For how many seasons can you sunshine pumpers say the same shit? Honestly. Give me a number.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Top 5 only because of their schedule. Good team, not great. Welcome back.

Thanks for having me back!

Clemson has a top 5 defense... there is no pre season in college so it takes til week 3 to really settle in as a team in college football.

and to reference your Clemson weak schedule comment - that's my point - App State can't continue to sneak up on these P5's each year and pull off an upset - Dabo had them boys ready, App made 2 3rd down mistakes in 1st quarter and the snowball rolled at that point.

Dummy down the schedule and the playoff is a possibility in the future!!! but not until then, can't ask a App State team to play perfect for 12 games. Doug gives in to the Sofields and Ricks crew on playing the big boys and other decisions -- he can't think for himself to help elevate the program, it's stuck in the purgatory of FBS.... Other schools stepped up there game and all he did was add seats to create more debt.

Now onto a rival game and a SBC game 4 days after that, tough sleding ahead.

Only 3 App State teams since 1990 has finished the season with only 1 loss -- #TeamClark was apart of 2 out of the 3.

Agree. It's simpler to just say Doug is manipulated by a few select individuals and as much as I've liked Doug, I wish we had an AD that wasn't a puppet for a few wallets

Are there any ADs out there that are so flush with cash from other sources they can tell big donors to pound sand? I don't really like that system but unless we somehow require anonymous donations I doubt that ever gets to change. I only hope they folks with money make good decisions.

You're not wrong. My issue is more about the wallets we have here at App.

And I am not saying I don't support your position. This was a topic on the previous Delphi Board with previous men's basketball coaches and who (or is it whom) was hired.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

What happened to the Gorilla?

Had his 19th nervous breakdown over losing.

You do know that Google owns YouTube?

Good musically choice also.

[AppSt94]

For how many seasons can you sunshine pumpers say the same shit? Honestly. Give me a number.

Because it isn’t as bad as you want to believe that it is. Clark and his staff took a big chance on revamping the defensive scheme in the middle of the season that was going bad and he asked his players to believe in them. They went 6-1 to finish the season. We are where we thought we would be after two games record wise. But all of you that can’t stand the positivity want to focus on are the losses. Clark’s win % is comparable to Satt’s but hey you know, he isn’t the guy.

[AppDub]

Same sh*t, different season

You know Rek I want this to be so wrong you’re embarrassed …but you’re exactly right. Next week will tell us so much about where App football is. We’re trending in the wrong direction I’m afraid.

lol…I meant the comments not team play!

Ironically, the post fit for both the comments and team play. Lots of similarities.

[yosef69]

For how many seasons can you sunshine pumpers say the same shit? Honestly. Give me a number.

Because it isn’t as bad as you want to believe that it is. Clark and his staff took a big chance on revamping the defensive scheme in the middle of the season that was going bad and he asked his players to believe in them. They went 6-1 to finish the season. We are where we thought we would be after two games record wise. But all of you that can’t stand the positivity want to focus on are the losses. Clark’s win % is comparable to Satt’s but hey you know, he isn’t the guy.

Satt built an FBS program from the ground floor. You know that is false equivalence.

We haven’t won the conference in 5 years. Do you propose that the standard shouldn’t be winning the conference?

[Saint3333]

Satterfield inherited a mediocre FCS team.

Clark inherited a top 25 FBS team.

Let’s see what happens the next three weeks before the knives come out.

[mountaineerman]

For how many seasons can you sunshine pumpers say the same shit? Honestly. Give me a number.

Because it isn’t as bad as you want to believe that it is. Clark and his staff took a big chance on revamping the defensive scheme in the middle of the season that was going bad and he asked his players to believe in them. They went 6-1 to finish the season. We are where we thought we would be after two games record wise. But all of you that can’t stand the positivity want to focus on are the losses. Clark’s win % is comparable to Satt’s but hey you know, he isn’t the guy.

Last night was personally the worst thing I’ve experienced as an App fan. I’m 46. I’m not sure what you mean by revamping defensive scheme but you can’t watch last night and say there’s not some sort of issue in coaching. Our Defense has not been right for some time .

[AppSt94]

For how many seasons can you sunshine pumpers say the same shit? Honestly. Give me a number.

Because it isn’t as bad as you want to believe that it is. Clark and his staff took a big chance on revamping the defensive scheme in the middle of the season that was going bad and he asked his players to believe in them. They went 6-1 to finish the season. We are where we thought we would be after two games record wise. But all of you that can’t stand the positivity want to focus on are the losses. Clark’s win % is comparable to Satt’s but hey you know, he isn’t the guy.

Satt built an FBS program from the ground floor. You know that is false equivalence.

We haven’t won the conference in 5 years. Do you propose that the standard shouldn’t be winning the conference?

Satt also did it in a much different era. App entered a much weaker league without having to deal with NIL and free agency (transfer portal). Those conference titles that you are holding onto by the short hairs are akin to the present day CUSA. I’m not suggesting that there shouldn’t be some frustration that we haven’t won a championship in a few years but firing someone who has shown that he can field a team that can compete with the heavyweights and compete and remain relevant in a much stronger conference is weird.

Prior to last night, he took UNC to OT twice, had Miami on the ropes and took down A&M. Is that not at least comparable if not a better resume than anything that Satt did against P5s? Yes, last night was bad but it shouldn’t cause an over reaction. We’ve been to the Championship 2 of the last 3 years. How did Louisiana do the next year with a new coach? How is Troy starting out this year?

How many programs fire a coach because he didn’t win championship and actually win a championship within 3-4 years? The standard should be to compete for titles. Winning them is incredibly hard.

[AppSt94]

For how many seasons can you sunshine pumpers say the same shit? Honestly. Give me a number.

Because it isn’t as bad as you want to believe that it is. Clark and his staff took a big chance on revamping the defensive scheme in the middle of the season that was going bad and he asked his players to believe in them. They went 6-1 to finish the season. We are where we thought we would be after two games record wise. But all of you that can’t stand the positivity want to focus on are the losses. Clark’s win % is comparable to Satt’s but hey you know, he isn’t the guy.

Last night was personally the worst thing I’ve experienced as an App fan. I’m 46. I’m not sure what you mean by revamping defensive scheme but you can’t watch last night and say there’s not some sort of issue in coaching. Our Defense has not been right for some time .

Last night was bad. No one is arguing that. We switched to the Star package as our base last year mid season. We finished the season 6-1 against peer programs and started this year with a win. We are 7-2 since that switch but all anyone wants to judge the program on is last night. OK.

[AppSt94]

Satterfield inherited a mediocre FCS team.

Clark inherited a top 25 FBS team.

Let’s see what happens the next three weeks before the knives come out.

Agree to disagree.

[mountaineerman]

For how many seasons can you sunshine pumpers say the same shit? Honestly. Give me a number.

Because it isn’t as bad as you want to believe that it is. Clark and his staff took a big chance on revamping the defensive scheme in the middle of the season that was going bad and he asked his players to believe in them. They went 6-1 to finish the season. We are where we thought we would be after two games record wise. But all of you that can’t stand the positivity want to focus on are the losses. Clark’s win % is comparable to Satt’s but hey you know, he isn’t the guy.

Last night was personally the worst thing I’ve experienced as an App fan. I’m 46. I’m not sure what you mean by revamping defensive scheme but you can’t watch last night and say there’s not some sort of issue in coaching. Our Defense has not been right for some time .

Last night was bad. No one is arguing that. We switched to the Star package as our base last year mid season. We finished the season 6-1 against peer programs and started this year with a win. We are 7-2 since that switch but all anyone wants to judge the program on is last night. OK.

Ok. You agree last night was the worst? That’s a start. And I’m not talking about last year