Worst I’ve ever seen

[Seattleapp]

Where is Appst94? I want to hear his rainbows and unicorns version of Thursday night.

Are you not getting enough affirmation from the current pile on? Trying to dunk on a poster who is pretty straight up in his observations is a clown post kid

It’s been a long time coming for a few.

I don’t really understand what that means. You are obviously fit to be tied and are really on one and that’s your right. But people calling out posters because they don’t trash Clark enough says more about them than the folks they are gloating to. And I haven’t seen this dude post anything of substance but he’s gonna come out of the woodwork and call out 94 as if he is on the coaching staff or playing. It’s just lame.

[Cro-Magnon App]

Quote 4pizza
I just don't get the NIL issue when we are dealing with an embarrassing blowout loss at home to South Alabama, not Alabama who actually has a NIL advantage but South Alabama who most certainly is on equal or lesser footing than we are. Don't blame NIL or the transfer portal for non competitive games against peer schools. It is a weak argument and falls on deaf ears. We have more athletic fundraising and ticket sales than South Alabama so why would anyone think that they somehow have superior NIL options. It is a red herring and nothing more. We got our asses kicked and it had nothing to do with a lack of NIL. I am pretty sure that Joey is our highest paid NIL player and he sure as shit isn't playing as good as he did last year, so perhaps the money just makes things worse. I am tired of the NIL excuse against a peer school, it just doesn't hold water so stop it.


Stats can be deceiving. If you have seen any game live you will know what I am talking about. He locks in on his primary receiver and often forces bad throws in that direction (sometimes with great results) but if he thinks they aren't open (and they often aren't) he does not go to the second or third option (which are many times open) and instead dumps it off to a RB or throws it away on 4th down. He can throw the ball and our guys can catch and he can put up stats, but he isn't playing nearly as well as he should be. It is hard to see on tv because they don't show the whole field but in person, it is very obvious that he is missing opportunities.
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I’ve said this since last year to fellow App supporters around here and continue to get blasted by them. I like Aguilar, but he ain’t the godsend many make him out to be. I hope he leads us well the rest of the way.

[Stonewall]

Criticism is well deserved at this point. If you still care , you probably are being critical today. Of course, it’s fine not to care . Each to his own.

[Capt. Ed]

ASU Todd you're certainly a critic. "Criticism tells about the bad in the situation outweighing the good & goes on and on about the bad."

[311neers]

Where is Appst94? I want to hear his rainbows and unicorns version of Thursday night.

Are you not getting enough affirmation from the current pile on? Trying to dunk on a poster who is pretty straight up in his observations is a clown post kid

It’s been a long time coming for a few.

I don’t really understand what that means. You are obviously fit to be tied and are really on one and that’s your right. But people calling out posters because they don’t trash Clark enough says more about them than the folks they are gloating to. And I haven’t seen this dude post anything of substance but he’s gonna come out of the woodwork and call out 94 as if he is on the coaching staff or playing. It’s just lame.

I’m not sure who 1992 is, maybe you know more than I do. I think people are just tired of a certain few posters that have been belittling and demeaning people for years for having opinions that differ from theirs. It got so bad last year that said accounts took hiatus or faked death threats to make it look like they were the victim. Said accounts do provide good insights from time to time, and we are appreciative of that, but they’ve been putting people down much more than 1992’s one call out they made just now. No one is mad at those posters for not trashing Clark at all, it’s just the way they go about telling others their opinion is wrong and what not. All of it’s lame when we go after each other, myself included, but just thought I’d clear the comment up. It’s difficult seeing the rest of the SunBelt succeed while we kinda down spiral. :/

[NewApp]

Clemson beat NC State almost as badly as the Tigers beat us. Maybe we don't suck as much as some of you guys like to say.

[AppWyo]

Clemson beat NC State almost as badly as the Tigers beat us. Maybe we don't suck as much as some of you guys like to say.

If you notice, the same people who say we need better competition, are the same people who are crying when we lose a game.

[Saint3333]

“Crying when we lose a game”

There may not be a more understated interpretation of what happened Thursday.

[AppStFan1]

Clemson beat NC State almost as badly as the Tigers beat us. Maybe we don't suck as much as some of you guys like to say.

South Alabama beat us by 30+. If we had beat South Alabama then you could say that but I think NC State is just awful as well. They almost got beat by Western Carolina after all.

[RaleighApp27609]

Clemson beat NC State almost as badly as the Tigers beat us. Maybe we don't suck as much as some of you guys like to say.

My take is Clemson is just much better this year than last. Nc state and App are mediocre at best this year based on what we've seen so far.

[bcoach]

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I just don't get the NIL issue when we are dealing with an embarrassing blowout loss at home to South Alabama, not Alabama who actually has a NIL advantage but South Alabama who most certainly is on equal or lesser footing than we are. Don't blame NIL or the transfer portal for non competitive games against peer schools. It is a weak argument and falls on deaf ears. We have more athletic fundraising and ticket sales than South Alabama so why would anyone think that they somehow have superior NIL options. It is a red herring and nothing more. We got our asses kicked and it had nothing to do with a lack of NIL. I am pretty sure that Joey is our highest paid NIL player and he sure as shit isn't playing as good as he did last year, so perhaps the money just makes things worse. I am tired of the NIL excuse against a peer school, it just doesn't hold water so stop it.


Stats can be deceiving. If you have seen any game live you will know what I am talking about. He locks in on his primary receiver and often forces bad throws in that direction (sometimes with great results) but if he thinks they aren't open (and they often aren't) he does not go to the second or third option (which are many times open) and instead dumps it off to a RB or throws it away on 4th down. He can throw the ball and our guys can catch and he can put up stats, but he isn't playing nearly as well as he should be. It is hard to see on tv because they don't show the whole field but in person, it is very obvious that he is missing opportunities.

I’ve said this since last year to fellow App supporters around here and continue to get blasted by them. I like Aguilar, but he ain’t the godsend many make him out to be. I hope he leads us well the rest of the way.
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Frankly I am sick of hearing about his stats. They really and truly don't mean crap. Compare his stats with USAs QB stats. Which would you rather have. Iwouldn't care if he rhrew for 900 yards. We lost.

[BambooRdApp]

Quote 4pizza
I just don't get the NIL issue when we are dealing with an embarrassing blowout loss at home to South Alabama, not Alabama who actually has a NIL advantage but South Alabama who most certainly is on equal or lesser footing than we are. Don't blame NIL or the transfer portal for non competitive games against peer schools. It is a weak argument and falls on deaf ears. We have more athletic fundraising and ticket sales than South Alabama so why would anyone think that they somehow have superior NIL options. It is a red herring and nothing more. We got our asses kicked and it had nothing to do with a lack of NIL. I am pretty sure that Joey is our highest paid NIL player and he sure as shit isn't playing as good as he did last year, so perhaps the money just makes things worse. I am tired of the NIL excuse against a peer school, it just doesn't hold water so stop it.


Stats can be deceiving. If you have seen any game live you will know what I am talking about. He locks in on his primary receiver and often forces bad throws in that direction (sometimes with great results) but if he thinks they aren't open (and they often aren't) he does not go to the second or third option (which are many times open) and instead dumps it off to a RB or throws it away on 4th down. He can throw the ball and our guys can catch and he can put up stats, but he isn't playing nearly as well as he should be. It is hard to see on tv because they don't show the whole field but in person, it is very obvious that he is missing opportunities.

I’ve said this since last year to fellow App supporters around here and continue to get blasted by them. I like Aguilar, but he ain’t the godsend many make him out to be. I hope he leads us well the rest of the way.

Frankly I am sick of hearing about his stats. They really and truly don't mean crap. Compare his stats with USAs QB stats. Which would you rather have. Iwouldn't care if he rhrew for 900 yards. We lost.
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Aguilar is not the only one on offense. The OL is a weakness. Has our QB made some poor decisions, sure. More often than not, it is when he has been on the run ...or throwing off back foot due to pressure. Is he perfect, no. However, I am not sure which of our former QBs, other than the GOAT, would fair any better..just my opinion

[AppSt94]

Where is Appst94? I want to hear his rainbows and unicorns version of Thursday night.

I have stayed out of this fray to allow you guys to work through your feelings. Someone sent this to me today so I will use it to respond to everything that I have not read. Apologies 92 as this isn’t meant explicitly for you.

There is no way to dress up what happened Thursday night. The punches didn’t land and the counter punches were equally ineffective. It was disappointing, frustrating and aggravating to watch. But under no circumstances has it warranted the type of vitriol towards coaches and players. No one on this or any other message board had skin in the plan, the execution or lack there of. So while I understand the above, no one feels worse than the staff and players so why kick them when they are down? College football is a frustrating game. Vandy beats Virginia Tech, loses to Ga State and then takes a top 10 Missouri to OT on the road. JMU struggles offensively and scored 13 to beat a FCS Gardner Webb then goes to Carolina and puts 70 on the board and oh by the way, gave up 616 yards on defense. It’s a wild ride week in and week out. Point is, Thursday night does not set the future of this team in stone.

I have also stayed away because the ‘fire Clark’ talk is juvenile. I realize that this post isn’t going to change anyone’s mind on how they feel about Clark. I’ll get the “but, buts” from the same ones and I’ll get upvotes from the same ones who always agree with me. Clark has three 9 win, a 10 win and a 6 win season in his current tenure. Who can point to a comparable program (G5) that fired a coach with similar success because he wasn’t winning enough? Firing someone for not meeting a higher standard is not the flex that some of you think that it is. I’m sure that I can go back and dig up some old threads of “fire Satt” and “fire Roof” and it is likely the same folks leading those charges.

The part that baffles me about all of this fire Clark talk is that you guys want to displace a guy that wants to be here and wants to get things right. He is invested more so than you and anyone that you “think” will come here won’t. And if they do, they will see it as a job and will be gone the first chance they get. Any Coach worth a darn is going to look at the record of an alum and see that if they would do that to one of their own, what chance would I get and why would I move my family there for that?

Was I frustrated Thursday? Absolutely. Was I upset and feel bad? I did. But not for me. I felt bad for the coaches and players as I’m sure they weren’t expecting that outcome. If you felt like the team let YOU down on Thursday, cool. If you feel like firing Clark, Ponce, or Sloan (who deserve as much blame as anyone) will make you feel better, I am sad for you. If you feel that if changes aren’t made then you will not renew tickets and cut your YC donations then by all means DO IT! No one will give a flying f$ck if you remove yourself from game days at the Rock because there is someone that will gladly scoop up your seats and slide into your parking spot. And in all honesty, if you feel compelled to take to a message board and kick a team that you supposedly love when they are down and engage in a digital circle jerk with like minded folk, you do you. But I do question if you actually care about the program because you don’t do that to those you care about. When I lay my head on my pillow at night, I count my blessings and pray for the opportunity to wake up the next morning. Not once have I asked my Lord and Savior to let App win so I can feel better about myself.

[yosef69]

Where is Appst94? I want to hear his rainbows and unicorns version of Thursday night.

I have stayed out of this fray to allow you guys to work through your feelings. Someone sent this to me today so I will use it to respond to everything that I have not read. Apologies 92 as this isn’t meant explicitly for you.

There is no way to dress up what happened Thursday night. The punches didn’t land and the counter punches were equally ineffective. It was disappointing, frustrating and aggravating to watch. But under no circumstances has it warranted the type of vitriol towards coaches and players. No one on this or any other message board had skin in the plan, the execution or lack there of. So while I understand the above, no one feels worse than the staff and players so why kick them when they are down? College football is a frustrating game. Vandy beats Virginia Tech, loses to Ga State and then takes a top 10 Missouri to OT on the road. JMU struggles offensively and scored 13 to beat a FCS Gardner Webb then goes to Carolina and puts 70 on the board and oh by the way, gave up 616 yards on defense. It’s a wild ride week in and week out. Point is, Thursday night does not set the future of this team in stone.

I have also stayed away because the ‘fire Clark’ talk is juvenile. I realize that this post isn’t going to change anyone’s mind on how they feel about Clark. I’ll get the “but, buts” from the same ones and I’ll get upvotes from the same ones who always agree with me. Clark has three 9 win, a 10 win and a 6 win season in his current tenure. Who can point to a comparable program (G5) that fired a coach with similar success because he wasn’t winning enough? Firing someone for not meeting a higher standard is not the flex that some of you think that it is. I’m sure that I can go back and dig up some old threads of “fire Satt” and “fire Roof” and it is likely the same folks leading those charges.

The part that baffles me about all of this fire Clark talk is that you guys want to displace a guy that wants to be here and wants to get things right. He is invested more so than you and anyone that you “think” will come here won’t. And if they do, they will see it as a job and will be gone the first chance they get. Any Coach worth a darn is going to look at the record of an alum and see that if they would do that to one of their own, what chance would I get and why would I move my family there for that?

Was I frustrated Thursday? Absolutely. Was I upset and feel bad? I did. But not for me. I felt bad for the coaches and players as I’m sure they weren’t expecting that outcome. If you felt like the team let YOU down on Thursday, cool. If you feel like firing Clark, Ponce, or Sloan (who deserve as much blame as anyone) will make you feel better, I am sad for you. If you feel that if changes aren’t made then you will not renew tickets and cut your YC donations then by all means DO IT! No one will give a flying f$ck if you remove yourself from game days at the Rock because there is someone that will gladly scoop up your seats and slide into your parking spot. And in all honesty, if you feel compelled to take to a message board and kick a team that you supposedly love when they are down and engage in a digital circle jerk with like minded folk, you do you. But I do question if you actually care about the program because you don’t do that to those you care about. When I lay my head on my pillow at night, I count my blessings and pray for the opportunity to wake up the next morning. Not once have I asked my Lord and Savior to let App win so I can feel better about myself.

I am 100% sure Clark wants to get it right more than anybody. That is a fact. I love him as a representative of app and for his love for us.

But can he do it? With each passing season it becomes less likely. A leopard doesn’t change its spots.

[Saint3333]

Every “seat” in that stadium and on that field is replaceable.

The program is bigger than any individual.

Eight games remain in the season. I’ll be there Saturday pulling for the name on the first of the jersey.

Beat Liberty.

[hapapp]

At the conclusion of Thursday's game, I had similar thoughts to many on here. But, since Clark became head coach, App has won 36 games. Among other Group of 5 teams, Boise has won 32, Memphis 34, Tulane 33, and Fresno State 35. Only Liberty (43) and UTSA (41) have more wins. The idea that you would fire him four games into the season is lost on me. None of us know where things go from here record-wise. The schedule over the next three games is going to be difficult and dropping all three of those would certainly raise the prospect at season's end that things change. As an alumnus and fan, I plan to be there the rest of the way supporting the team and the coaches. At season's end, would seem the better time to have this discussion.

[AppinVA]

Every “seat” in that stadium and on that field is replaceable.

The program is bigger than any individual.

Eight games remain in the season. I’ll be there Saturday pulling for the name on the first of the jersey.

Beat Liberty.

NASCAR thought this.

[BambooRdApp]

Every “seat” in that stadium and on that field is replaceable.

The program is bigger than any individual.

Eight games remain in the season. I’ll be there Saturday pulling for the name on the first of the jersey.

Beat Liberty.

NASCAR thought this.

NASCAR is the sport all together...not and individual team NASCAR changed its overall go to market strategy...not sure if your reply is referring to NIL and comparing it to nil.
If not, NASCAR is not equivalent to an individual team like App.

[AppinVA]

Every “seat” in that stadium and on that field is replaceable.

The program is bigger than any individual.

Eight games remain in the season. I’ll be there Saturday pulling for the name on the first of the jersey.

Beat Liberty.

NASCAR thought this.

NASCAR is the sport all together...not and individual team NASCAR changed its overall go to market strategy...not sure if your reply is referring to NIL and comparing it to nil.
If not, NASCAR is not equivalent to an individual team like App.

My comparison is to those who think there’s always someone else, in their case, washed masses, to fill newly empty seats. But I may have missed Saint’s point.

[BambooRdApp]

Every “seat” in that stadium and on that field is replaceable.

The program is bigger than any individual.

Eight games remain in the season. I’ll be there Saturday pulling for the name on the first of the jersey.

Beat Liberty.

NASCAR thought this.

NASCAR is the sport all together...not and individual team NASCAR changed its overall go to market strategy...not sure if your reply is referring to NIL and comparing it to nil.
If not, NASCAR is not equivalent to an individual team like App.

My comparison is to those who think there’s always someone else, in their case, washed masses, to fill newly empty seats. But I may have missed Saint’s point.

Ok. Got it..