Marshall..?

[Yosefus]

And to fall in love with the portal is fool’s gold. There is often a reason why most players enter the portal. Either they suck to begin with, are lazy or have attitude problems. I’m not lumping them all together but…

And if a lineman in particular never really played at a P4 what is used to assess his ability? Surely not high school game film. We have had a few good players plucked from the portal but we also apparently have some who simply aren’t good enough.

I want to hire the jmu coach he figured it out

We need trunk monkey!
If you don't know what that is look it up on YouTube.

[Bootsy]

And to fall in love with the portal is fool’s gold. There is often a reason why most players enter the portal. Either they suck to begin with, are lazy or have attitude problems. I’m not lumping them all together but…

And if a lineman in particular never really played at a P4 what is used to assess his ability? Surely not high school game film. We have had a few good players plucked from the portal but we also apparently have some who simply aren’t good enough.

I want to hire the jmu coach he figured it out

App could try to talk to him, but...

• He's too busy winning games to take our phone calls, and

• We couldn't afford him anyway

[GoBoone]

And to fall in love with the portal is fool’s gold. There is often a reason why most players enter the portal. Either they suck to begin with, are lazy or have attitude problems. I’m not lumping them all together but…

And if a lineman in particular never really played at a P4 what is used to assess his ability? Surely not high school game film. We have had a few good players plucked from the portal but we also apparently have some who simply aren’t good enough.

BINGO

[Pikapp79]

And to fall in love with the portal is fool’s gold. There is often a reason why most players enter the portal. Either they suck to begin with, are lazy or have attitude problems. I’m not lumping them all together but…

And if a lineman in particular never really played at a P4 what is used to assess his ability? Surely not high school game film. We have had a few good players plucked from the portal but we also apparently have some who simply aren’t good enough.

BINGO

See Liberty.

[BallantyneApp]

And to fall in love with the portal is fool’s gold. There is often a reason why most players enter the portal. Either they suck to begin with, are lazy or have attitude problems. I’m not lumping them all together but…

And if a lineman in particular never really played at a P4 what is used to assess his ability? Surely not high school game film. We have had a few good players plucked from the portal but we also apparently have some who simply aren’t good enough.

I want to hire the jmu coach he figured it out

App could try to talk to him, but...

• He's too busy winning games to take our phone calls, and

• We couldn't afford him anyway

Agree we couldn’t afford to buy out Clark but him out and then sign him to a nice raise but he makes about $200k less than Clark

[Apptiger]

Positives - They didn't quit
Negatives too many to list.Condensed version below.
-We are slow. Our best receivers can't get open and our defense can't pursue.
- Joey gets a lot of pressure a lot. O Line can't get any push. Zone runs appear to have left the playbook or we are executing them so badly I can't recognize them.
-Other teams defenses seem to know exactly what plays we will run. It seems to take heroic efforts by individuals for something good to happen.
-Defense is just bad. Can't get off blocks, can't seal the edge, too slow for effective pursuit, saw some bad pursuit angles again tonight. No push from the line and no disruptive penetration.
-Our lines on both sides get pushed around.

Seriously this defense reminds me of the Brown to Beasley years. Score 40-50 a game and lose.
At this point, not really sure if all of this is the coaching. Small, slow and not very strong. One can argue that is on the coaches too. Smaller schools with less facilities and budgets are whipping us. Three of the worst losses in recent memory.

I could understand if we were rebuilding but we were expected by everyone to be better and win the conference. I am losing hope.

[bcoach]

Please would one of you guys who constantly beats to death the same mantra about how much talent we have please please show the proof. We have a really good quarterback and some decent running backs. We have a couple good receivers (1 really good). We apparently don’t have that Bell Cow back because we rotate them constantly. Tight ends pretty good but seldom used. I’ve been of the opinion that most G5 offensive linemen are generally too slow as physically they are as big as most P4 linemen. An inch and 20 pounds isn’t a drastic difference. We are small on defense and simply don’t have depth. Defensive backs are either slow or can’t adjust. Who is our green dot on defense?

I’ve said this many times- it’s going to be nearly impossible to get that coveted token CFP playoff spot. The best G5 has to probably (not always but usually) beat a good P4, navigate and maybe only lose one conference game and then beat the second best team for a championship before taking on the 5th best team. We are already beat up and not half way through the season.

I have been looking for that proof since game one. I think the folks who rated our abundant tallent are the same folks who predicted JMU would be near the bottom.

[bcoach]

Positives - They didn't quit
Negatives too many to list.Condensed version below.
-We are slow. Our best receivers can't get open and our defense can't pursue.
- Joey gets a lot of pressure a lot. O Line can't get any push. Zone runs appear to have left the playbook or we are executing them so badly I can't recognize them.
-Other teams defenses seem to know exactly what plays we will run. It seems to take heroic efforts by individuals for something good to happen.
-Defense is just bad. Can't get off blocks, can't seal the edge, too slow for effective pursuit, saw some bad pursuit angles again tonight. No push from the line and no disruptive penetration.
-Our lines on both sides get pushed around.

Seriously this defense reminds me of the Brown to Beasley years. Score 40-50 a game and lose.
At this point, not really sure if all of this is the coaching. Small, slow and not very strong. One can argue that is on the coaches too. Smaller schools with less facilities and budgets are whipping us. Three of the worst losses in recent memory.

I could understand if we were rebuilding but we were expected by everyone to be better and win the conference. I am losing hope.

I am still trying to figure out what " everyone" was basing that on.

[AppStFan1]

ECU firing their coach
UNC going to ask Mack to retire
AppState will make a change
NC State mostly likely will


Who do you hire with all those other jobs that will pay more????

I think he gets another year, given all that’s happened, but you go for the hungry, young, coach who will leave when he builds back a winner.

If we win 5 or less he is gone for sure and if we go 6-5 he still might be gone.

[BallantyneApp]

Positives - They didn't quit
Negatives too many to list.Condensed version below.
-We are slow. Our best receivers can't get open and our defense can't pursue.
- Joey gets a lot of pressure a lot. O Line can't get any push. Zone runs appear to have left the playbook or we are executing them so badly I can't recognize them.
-Other teams defenses seem to know exactly what plays we will run. It seems to take heroic efforts by individuals for something good to happen.
-Defense is just bad. Can't get off blocks, can't seal the edge, too slow for effective pursuit, saw some bad pursuit angles again tonight. No push from the line and no disruptive penetration.
-Our lines on both sides get pushed around.

Seriously this defense reminds me of the Brown to Beasley years. Score 40-50 a game and lose.
At this point, not really sure if all of this is the coaching. Small, slow and not very strong. One can argue that is on the coaches too. Smaller schools with less facilities and budgets are whipping us. Three of the worst losses in recent memory.

I could understand if we were rebuilding but we were expected by everyone to be better and win the conference. I am losing hope.

I am still trying to figure out what " everyone" was basing that on.

That’s what most of the “insiders” were saying here. We kept most of our impact players on offense. Defense seemed to turn a corner in the 2nd half of 2023

[Apptiger]

Positives - They didn't quit
Negatives too many to list.Condensed version below.
-We are slow. Our best receivers can't get open and our defense can't pursue.
- Joey gets a lot of pressure a lot. O Line can't get any push. Zone runs appear to have left the playbook or we are executing them so badly I can't recognize them.
-Other teams defenses seem to know exactly what plays we will run. It seems to take heroic efforts by individuals for something good to happen.
-Defense is just bad. Can't get off blocks, can't seal the edge, too slow for effective pursuit, saw some bad pursuit angles again tonight. No push from the line and no disruptive penetration.
-Our lines on both sides get pushed around.

Seriously this defense reminds me of the Brown to Beasley years. Score 40-50 a game and lose.
At this point, not really sure if all of this is the coaching. Small, slow and not very strong. One can argue that is on the coaches too. Smaller schools with less facilities and budgets are whipping us. Three of the worst losses in recent memory.

I could understand if we were rebuilding but we were expected by everyone to be better and win the conference. I am losing hope.

I am still trying to figure out what " everyone" was basing that on.

Thinking us homers were reading too much into the press clippings lol

[Bigdaddyg1]

Please would one of you guys who constantly beats to death the same mantra about how much talent we have please please show the proof. We have a really good quarterback and some decent running backs. We have a couple good receivers (1 really good). We apparently don’t have that Bell Cow back because we rotate them constantly. Tight ends pretty good but seldom used. I’ve been of the opinion that most G5 offensive linemen are generally too slow as physically they are as big as most P4 linemen. An inch and 20 pounds isn’t a drastic difference. We are small on defense and simply don’t have depth. Defensive backs are either slow or can’t adjust. Who is our green dot on defense?

I’ve said this many times- it’s going to be nearly impossible to get that coveted token CFP playoff spot. The best G5 has to probably (not always but usually) beat a good P4, navigate and maybe only lose one conference game and then beat the second best team for a championship before taking on the 5th best team. We are already beat up and not half way through the season.

I have been looking for that proof since game one. I think the folks who rated our abundant tallent are the same folks who predicted JMU would be near the bottom.

I mean that seriously. I really don’t mean to slam the players but more so the ones who insist that we have some loaded roster. My eyes tell me different. And I asked earlier where we rank over the last 4 years in terms of stupid needless penalties. Ripping a guys helmet off and committing a dumb personal foul? We do it over and over again every game. Are our coaches afraid to light a guy up for fear that he will transfer?

[Yosefus]

ECU firing their coach
UNC going to ask Mack to retire
AppState will make a change
NC State mostly likely will


Who do you hire with all those other jobs that will pay more????

I think he gets another year, given all that’s happened, but you go for the hungry, young, coach who will leave when he builds back a winner.

If we win 5 or less he is gone for sure and if we go 6-5 he still might be gone.

It will take a miracle to win 5-6 games this season. So I'm gonna be anxiously awaiting naming of a new head coach.

[appdaze]

The best scouts in the world have 20/20 hindsight.

[Yosefus]

The best scouts in the world have 20/20 hindsight.

And the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

[AppOrange]

Please would one of you guys who constantly beats to death the same mantra about how much talent we have please please show the proof. We have a really good quarterback and some decent running backs. We have a couple good receivers (1 really good). We apparently don’t have that Bell Cow back because we rotate them constantly. Tight ends pretty good but seldom used. I’ve been of the opinion that most G5 offensive linemen are generally too slow as physically they are as big as most P4 linemen. An inch and 20 pounds isn’t a drastic difference. We are small on defense and simply don’t have depth. Defensive backs are either slow or can’t adjust. Who is our green dot on defense?

I’ve said this many times- it’s going to be nearly impossible to get that coveted token CFP playoff spot. The best G5 has to probably (not always but usually) beat a good P4, navigate and maybe only lose one conference game and then beat the second best team for a championship before taking on the 5th best team. We are already beat up and not half way through the season.

Whether we have the talent or not it’s the responsibility of the head coach.

No one ever says this but it’s true. Same with execution, penalties, etc, the staff has to be accountable for all these things.

[Mjohn1988]

Positives - They didn't quit
Negatives too many to list.Condensed version below.
-We are slow. Our best receivers can't get open and our defense can't pursue.
- Joey gets a lot of pressure a lot. O Line can't get any push. Zone runs appear to have left the playbook or we are executing them so badly I can't recognize them.
-Other teams defenses seem to know exactly what plays we will run. It seems to take heroic efforts by individuals for something good to happen.
-Defense is just bad. Can't get off blocks, can't seal the edge, too slow for effective pursuit, saw some bad pursuit angles again tonight. No push from the line and no disruptive penetration.
-Our lines on both sides get pushed around.

Seriously this defense reminds me of the Brown to Beasley years. Score 40-50 a game and lose.
At this point, not really sure if all of this is the coaching. Small, slow and not very strong. One can argue that is on the coaches too. Smaller schools with less facilities and budgets are whipping us. Three of the worst losses in recent memory.

I could understand if we were rebuilding but we were expected by everyone to be better and win the conference. I am losing hope.

I am still trying to figure out what " everyone" was basing that on.

That’s what most of the “insiders” were saying here. We kept most of our impact players on offense. Defense seemed to turn a corner in the 2nd half of 2023

All of these folks seem to forget about line play. An FCS caliber running back can be effective if he has holes to run through and an FCS caliber corner can cover if it’s only for a couple of seconds. Build the lines!!!!

[Yosefus]

Can someone please reprogram the simulation or call and wake me up. This is either a dream/nightmare or a glitch in the matrix. No way this is real!

[AppOrange]

Positives - They didn't quit
Negatives too many to list.Condensed version below.
-We are slow. Our best receivers can't get open and our defense can't pursue.
- Joey gets a lot of pressure a lot. O Line can't get any push. Zone runs appear to have left the playbook or we are executing them so badly I can't recognize them.
-Other teams defenses seem to know exactly what plays we will run. It seems to take heroic efforts by individuals for something good to happen.
-Defense is just bad. Can't get off blocks, can't seal the edge, too slow for effective pursuit, saw some bad pursuit angles again tonight. No push from the line and no disruptive penetration.
-Our lines on both sides get pushed around.

Seriously this defense reminds me of the Brown to Beasley years. Score 40-50 a game and lose.
At this point, not really sure if all of this is the coaching. Small, slow and not very strong. One can argue that is on the coaches too. Smaller schools with less facilities and budgets are whipping us. Three of the worst losses in recent memory.

I could understand if we were rebuilding but we were expected by everyone to be better and win the conference. I am losing hope.

Please everyone read the above. The only thing I would add is this: App supports their G5 team better than any other in the country, us and Boise. What is happening is not ok. It’s not Covid or NIL or even the portal, every G5 has had to deal w it and we are not doing it well. our budget is enough to compete w every G5. We are small, slow and not as physical as our peer schools. Enough excuses, our students, awesome fan base and community deserve better than getting blown out in non competitive games against S Al and Marshal. Most of us aren’t naive to understand games like Clemson are going to happen, but these peer game blowouts gotta go, we are trending way down.

[Pikapp79]

Positives - They didn't quit
Negatives too many to list.Condensed version below.
-We are slow. Our best receivers can't get open and our defense can't pursue.
- Joey gets a lot of pressure a lot. O Line can't get any push. Zone runs appear to have left the playbook or we are executing them so badly I can't recognize them.
-Other teams defenses seem to know exactly what plays we will run. It seems to take heroic efforts by individuals for something good to happen.
-Defense is just bad. Can't get off blocks, can't seal the edge, too slow for effective pursuit, saw some bad pursuit angles again tonight. No push from the line and no disruptive penetration.
-Our lines on both sides get pushed around.

Seriously this defense reminds me of the Brown to Beasley years. Score 40-50 a game and lose.
At this point, not really sure if all of this is the coaching. Small, slow and not very strong. One can argue that is on the coaches too. Smaller schools with less facilities and budgets are whipping us. Three of the worst losses in recent memory.

I could understand if we were rebuilding but we were expected by everyone to be better and win the conference. I am losing hope.

I am still trying to figure out what " everyone" was basing that on.

Off-season euphoria. Same as every fan base. Use their heart instead of their brain. Same thing will happen this off-season.