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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:07 pm

hapapp wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:38 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:57 am
The guy from Ohio wanted nothing to do with high expectations. Championship expectations. Our guy demands them.
I'm not unhappy with our selection but to suggest a guy who just won a championship doesn't have championship expectations is unfair.
Fair point. To clarify he will be a hero in Charlotte if he wins 7 games. Not so in Boone. The expectations are vastly different. David Glenn actually did a nice job laying it out in a recent episode.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:15 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:11 pm
Ok, let's look at some positives...
Has NFL connections
Has SEC connections
According to Stonewall this guy has a drive and something to prove
Great recruiter
Has guided and molded two SC QBs that stood out.
Appears to want his QBs to run. Joey could have really benefites from that mindset.
Another positive is he is coming from a program that understands grudge matches with in-state foes. He will see the need to beat in-state rivals and he will understand how big the GASouth game is.
So while this wasn't my first pick it's who we got. I'm done griping about and looking forward to what he can do. So with that.... Welcome to the Rock, Coach Loggains.
So no love week for GS I suppose.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:19 pm

I’ve never been enamored with the MAC’s brand of football or its coaches.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:21 pm

It seems that Loggains may wear the right headgear for some on this board, but the one thing he cannot do is mispronounce Appalachian, that is the one thing of which we can all agree...

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:24 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:19 pm
I’ve never been enamored with the MAC’s brand of football or its coaches.
Isn't Miami of Ohio the cradle of coaches?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_Coaches

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by DoesntEvenGoHere » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:33 pm

Recruiting nowadays isn't like it used to be. You still have very good recruiters & such but the majority of the work is now determining who to recruit & how to utilize the NIL funds available to recruit new guys into the fold while still being able to retain the needed guys already in the fold.

Coaches watch film & ultimately decide who to recruit but the recruiting staff (Player Development group) plays a much bigger role now than it did even 5 years ago.

I'm not excited about Loggains, but we have no idea at the moment what kind of coach he is determined to be. Drinkwitz walked in & said he's the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, and QB coach.

Does the feeling change if Loggains walked in & said he plans to hire an OC & play caller? Does it change if he's determined to prove he can run a program, not just a team?

The job that Clark had is not the same job that Drink, Satt, or JM had. I hate it didn't work out for him. I hope DG hired Loggains because he believes he could navigate this new era of CFB.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by VNova » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:45 pm

DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:33 pm
Recruiting nowadays isn't like it used to be. You still have very good recruiters & such but the majority of the work is now determining who to recruit & how to utilize the NIL funds available to recruit new guys into the fold while still being able to retain the needed guys already in the fold.

Coaches watch film & ultimately decide who to recruit but the recruiting staff (Player Development group) plays a much bigger role now than it did even 5 years ago.

I'm not excited about Loggains, but we have no idea at the moment what kind of coach he is determined to be. Drinkwitz walked in & said he's the Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, and QB coach.

Does the feeling change if Loggains walked in & said he plans to hire an OC & play caller? Does it change if he's determined to prove he can run a program, not just a team?

The job that Clark had is not the same job that Drink, Satt, or JM had. I hate it didn't work out for him. I hope DG hired Loggains because he believes he could navigate this new era of CFB.
In this case, Loggains has only ever known the 2021 NIL and Portal rules as a recruiter. He never recruited under the previous CFB setup, based on his coaching history, so there isn’t a “well this is how we used to do it” mindset there. I’m considering that a good thing for the future of recruiting here.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by Yosefus » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:16 pm

Didn't I see where we signed a high school QB with some freaky good stats? Haven't looked back for name or researched it but maybe this would be a good fit st least that aspect of growing a young qb???

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:19 pm

Yosefus wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:16 pm
Didn't I see where we signed a high school QB with some freaky good stats? Haven't looked back for name or researched it but maybe this would be a good fit st least that aspect of growing a young qb???
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Unread post by MrCraig » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:29 pm

After a night to sleep on it, these are my thoughts and feelings.
Loggains’ resume isn’t eye popping. However, he’s got a lot of experience, even if it hasn’t been super successful. This seems like a little bit of a risky hire, which I honestly prefer than someone date who will just keep a mediocre status quo.
I THINK, and this is really just me spitballing, that Gillin and co. are looking at the CFB landscape and see that they need someone who can recruit and RETAIN talent. A former NFL guy might do better managing the portal, NIL, and player egos than a college guy. Also, someone who’s spent that much time in the NFL has made connections, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he brought in some impressive coordinators to help him.
We will just have to wait and see.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by Rick83 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:32 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:57 am
The guy from Ohio wanted nothing to do with high expectations. Championship expectations. Our guy demands them.
The more you post these kinds of things the more excited I get!

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:37 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:29 pm
After a night to sleep on it, these are my thoughts and feelings.
Loggains’ resume isn’t eye popping. However, he’s got a lot of experience, even if it hasn’t been super successful. This seems like a little bit of a risky hire, which I honestly prefer than someone date who will just keep a mediocre status quo.
I THINK, and this is really just me spitballing, that Gillin and co. are looking at the CFB landscape and see that they need someone who can recruit and RETAIN talent. A former NFL guy might do better managing the portal, NIL, and player egos than a college guy. Also, someone who’s spent that much time in the NFL has made connections, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he brought in some impressive coordinators to help him.
We will just have to wait and see.
He might also know some NFL people who can help us evaluate talent and do a better job of getting guys to the next level. For those that say NFL talent does not matter it absolutely does. Players see a NFL pipeline at a position and it appeals to them.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by appfanjj » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:38 pm

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First test coming. How many guys will he pull from little Carolina in the portal who drop down a level? Do they believe in him or not?
Little Carolina? If you are making the comparison between USC and UNC then you have that completely backwards. At least in terms of football.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by MrCraig » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:42 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:38 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:44 am
First test coming. How many guys will he pull from little Carolina in the portal who drop down a level? Do they believe in him or not?
Little Carolina? If you are making the comparison between USC and UNC then you have that completely backwards. At least in terms of football.
South Carolina = inferior Carolina. Everyone knows this.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:45 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:38 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:44 am
First test coming. How many guys will he pull from little Carolina in the portal who drop down a level? Do they believe in him or not?
Little Carolina? If you are making the comparison between USC and UNC then you have that completely backwards. At least in terms of football.
Not sure we should have an expectation that many, if any, transfer from USC to App. This is not a situation like Indiana where they took some of the best JMU players. That is G5 to Power conference. It does not necessarily work in the opposite direction en masse like JMU to Indiana..
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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by appfanjj » Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:51 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:42 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:38 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:44 am
First test coming. How many guys will he pull from little Carolina in the portal who drop down a level? Do they believe in him or not?
Little Carolina? If you are making the comparison between USC and UNC then you have that completely backwards. At least in terms of football.
South Carolina = inferior Carolina. Everyone knows this.
Seriously hope you are joking around,

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:04 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:51 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:42 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:38 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:44 am
First test coming. How many guys will he pull from little Carolina in the portal who drop down a level? Do they believe in him or not?
Little Carolina? If you are making the comparison between USC and UNC then you have that completely backwards. At least in terms of football.
South Carolina = inferior Carolina. Everyone knows this.
Seriously hope you are joking around,
I think the poster is serious. UNC holds the all time series lead in football. North Carolina leads 36–20–4.
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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by yosef69 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:05 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:51 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:42 pm
appfanjj wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:38 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:44 am
First test coming. How many guys will he pull from little Carolina in the portal who drop down a level? Do they believe in him or not?
Little Carolina? If you are making the comparison between USC and UNC then you have that completely backwards. At least in terms of football.
South Carolina = inferior Carolina. Everyone knows this.
Seriously hope you are joking around,
Bro you can’t even try to compare the tar heels brand vs South Carolina. And I am a proud UNC hater.

North Carolina is better than South Carolina in every way, both the states and the schools.
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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by subwayjimmy » Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:08 pm

The man's name is literally "DO WELL". How can we lose? Every opponent is on the highway to the danger zone if you ask me.

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Re: Dowell Loggains

Unread post by ah59396 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:18 pm

subwayjimmy wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:08 pm
The man's name is literally "DO WELL". How can we lose? Every opponent is on the highway to the danger zone if you ask me.
You know I’m coming around to Coach Loggains.
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